The last poll I recall seeing was that as I recall, almost 70? of Americans didn’t want to lose in Iraq.

Does anyone even take her seriously anymore?

The REAL Evil Empire?

“Keith Olbermann couldn’t carry Edward R. Murrow’s jock.” — Chris Wallace

Have another beer.

As a matter of fact it is our ultimate goal… but it’s obviously not a goal that can happen overnight… What do you suggest? Ok, you’re trained, get out there and kick some terrorist ass and never mind that your family is being threatened…. Yes way too simplistic….

I love hearing about how Iraqi civilians, politicians, and soldiers listen to American media reports and wonder if we’re really going to be there to see this shit through, no matter how long it takes.

Hell, we could just pull out like we did in Korea! That turned out great. Or we could save Kuwait, and then fuck off, that worked too. I’m sure 3,000,000 Cambodian men, women, and children didn’t mind being massacred after we pulled out of Vietnam. Vietnam is fucking thriving! (Trivia: the number one Vietnamese export is… children for Angelina Jolie to adopt!) I suppose we could have gone to war after Iran seized our embassy… nah, we did the right thing by sticking our dicks up our asses.

GIVE IT TIME. (JESUS CHRIST.)

and i think we need to stay in iraq forever. just like we did in japan after WWII. now look.

point being, it takes time and breeding.

GB senior listened to the Polls the last time we fought with saddam and what happened? the gassing of the kurds and the killing of numerous shiites, for which saddam was summarily hanged. Any guesses as to what will happen if america pulls troops out now?

I can: 1. Iraq will have their own taliban in power.
2. the kurds will seek to establish their own country because they want a nonreligious government.
3. the shittes and the sunnis will fight each other and then the kurds because the kurds have all the oil. 4. then turkey will get involved because so many of its citizens are kurds. 5. the UN will want to step in the fray, which means american troops being redeployed in their powder blue helmets with an even bigger target on their backs and no clip in their gun.

God only knows what will happen after that. But remember the demokrauts want peace, and this will surely bring just as it brought peace to vietnam and neighboring cambodia.

You’ve got me reeling. Hil-Arious.

when the job we sent them over there for is finished.

VICTORY NOT SURRENDER

If our mission in Iraq was to oust Saddam. Mission Accomplished.

If our mission in Iraq was to rid WMDs. Mission Accomplished.

If our mission in Iraq was to bring democracy… like you guys all say, it will take more years than a stupid timeline outlines.

If our mission in Iraq was to kill all the terrorists, this is not a possible mission to accomplish.

Can’t we just up and leave Iraq and let the power vaccum be filled by a civil war? At least those factions would fight off the terrorists from Pakistan, Iran, and Afganistan. I don’t care about Iraqi insurgents who aren’t foreign terrorists. If they want to blow up their country, they are assholes, but they aren’t gonna come to USA and blow shit up, so fuck em.

I’m not drinking bud, I’m just offering an opinion. I don’t claim to know as much as you all, so I’m trying to learn. As I said before, you all have way more experience than I do so if I say something stupid, I’m man enough to not to be thick skulled if someone corrects me.

Cheers.:beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer::beer:

Then why is the left doing it? I keep hearing them scream about it turning out like the Nam.

The Democrat politicians are acting just like they did during Vietnam. They start listening to the pinko commies that are protesting the war, then try to cut off the funds. WTF is the difference?

I challenge you: name a war America backed away from that turned out well for us in the end.

And try crafting your own thoughts, instead of cherry picking what you see on TV.

Thinking–pass it on.

Uh, they already did. The MSM will at least tell you that much. They also state they will attack us here, given any chance to do so. Why was the 1993 WTC attack (under Clinton) not enough? Why was the USS Cole attack (under Clinton) not enough? Why was the September 11, 2001 (under Bush - oh wait, he responded) attack not enough? Those are just a few. Damn, I think I mentioned the same thing in another thread.

I swear, if we had a mushroom cloud in New York the left would STILL be screaming it’s our own fault. It is so easy to learn what is really going on the world I continuously wonder why more people don’t do it.

It takes time to build armies and police forces. Not to mention that Iraq will have to undergo a compleate social change.

Seems that everybody forgets that it wasn’t until 1955 that Germany was given back most of its sovreignty.

The polls that get reported are the poll the Liberal Biased Media wants the public to see. They don’t show the polls that show progress, they don’t show that we have yet to loose a battle in Iraq or Afghanistan.

The US media is sickened by competitive marketing, and the holly dollar sign. They are as guilty of that as any disgraced CEO has ever been.

Helen Thomas does not speak for this Vet, and she should know better than to spout the moveon.org talking points.
You would think someone with her experience would understand the basics.
The Dim’s are doing their best to make this war resemble VietNam.

Clinton and Thomas had a child, and named it Dick Gregory. ROFLMAO

Yes, I agree with you, whether republican or democrat, comparing one war to the next is stupid. Its not about which party you support.

@Rumsfeld

I would argue the Korean war turned out good for us, since SK is now a thriving Democracy and trading partner.

@Greg-USA

If you read my post carefully I said ‘Iraqi insurgents’ have never attacked American soil and I was careful to make the distinction between them and ‘foreign terrorists’ ala Iran, Syria, etc. So your point isn’t valid, no WTC terrorists were Iraqi, no U.S.S Cole terrorists were Iraqi. Sheesh man, I respect your comments and read them through, do me the same courtesy.

@Robin

Thank you for that information, it is good to know. This is what I’d like to see more of and as many of you pointed out, it will take more time to train additional Iraqi Battalioins than a stupid predetermined timeline will allow for.

@Opus Rex

Yup. Robin’s post echoed this.

@EVERYONE

Why must we bash the Democratic party in every post. I hate them as much as I hate the Republican party, because neither of them could give two shits about you or me. Our two-tiered political party system is just a device to divide our country along two opposing sides, which does nothing to help you or me. Most of you, from what I’ve read, are vets or troops, so I say fuck politics, lets talk about the real war not seen by camera lights. Just a thought.

H.T. is a whore and judging from the putrid photo–she got some!! ‘Fat or old or not at all Bill’-such a beacon of respect and admiration:shock: A perfect poster boy for the Dim’s.

@TWarrior: I don’t know where you got “Dim’s”, but if you don’t mind, I will only respectfully refer to that party in this manner from now on. It is a perfect abbreviation.