Comments on: American Feminists: Scum http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/ The latest in policital news and the war in Iraq Tue, 6 Jan 2009 07:39:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Tom http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13950 Tom Tue, 15 May 2007 08:37:29 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13950 Imagine the limousine liberals like Arrianna Huffington or Bill Maher opening their botoxed mouths to speak up about a true feminist issue. But just like when Theo Van Gogh was murdered, there is a cowardly silence. Feminists do not care about women, they care about promoting anti-Americanism. Oh I'm sorry. They're fighting "patriarchy". And Valerie Plame was an undercover spy in grave danger. (Of throwing her back out from sitting all day at the same swivel chair in DC.) Ayaan Hirsi Ali is one of the true feminists speaking out right now, and she needs security almost constantly for years now. Gloria Steinem on the case yet? Of course, support for freedom of speech ended quickly for Salman Rushide, Danish cartoonists and others under death threat by the Religion Of Peace. Bill Clinton lectured on the wrongness of "insensitivity" towards their medieval passions. Liberals love to preen and primp and do compassion money shots when the cameras are rolling. But when real women need help en masse? Silence. Muslim front groups have out-victimed them. I read that over 4000 gays have been hung in public square in Iran since the mullahs highjacked that nation. We haven't heard too much out of gay activists either, now have we? But Al Gore will claim to channel the inner spirit of Amazonian Indians. See, liberals CARE about Third World peoples. When it makes them look really good. I think they mastsurbate to their schtick. Imagine the limousine liberals like Arrianna Huffington or Bill Maher opening their botoxed mouths to speak up about a true feminist issue. But just like when Theo Van Gogh was murdered, there is a cowardly silence. Feminists do not care about women, they care about promoting anti-Americanism. Oh I’m sorry. They’re fighting “patriarchy”. And Valerie Plame was an undercover spy in grave danger. (Of throwing her back out from sitting all day at the same swivel chair in DC.)

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is one of the true feminists speaking out right now, and she needs security almost constantly for years now. Gloria Steinem on the case yet?

Of course, support for freedom of speech ended quickly for Salman Rushide, Danish cartoonists and others under death threat by the Religion Of Peace. Bill Clinton lectured on the wrongness of “insensitivity” towards their medieval passions.

Liberals love to preen and primp and do compassion money shots when the cameras are rolling. But when real women need help en masse?

Silence. Muslim front groups have out-victimed them.

I read that over 4000 gays have been hung in public square in Iran since the mullahs highjacked that nation. We haven’t heard too much out of gay activists either, now have we?

But Al Gore will claim to channel the inner spirit of Amazonian Indians. See, liberals CARE about Third World peoples. When it makes them look really good.

I think they mastsurbate to their schtick.

]]> By: TJ http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13960 TJ Tue, 15 May 2007 10:36:49 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13960 I have read fatima mernissi. she is a feminist but still a islamic apologist who views the US as oppressors of muslims and to blame partially for the oppression of women in islamic societies. Traditionally, whenever there is turmoil in the Umma(muslim community), they harken back to the Jahillya(the time of ignorance before islam. Basically the "balance " has been upset. Peace in Islam is not as we see it, It is the presence of strict islamic shariah law that maintains balance in society. Because during the jahillya the people worshipped many vengeful Gods, the worst of whom were female such as , Al-Lat and manat, muslim men particular the Ulama (clergy) call upon the restoration of order in their own societies to counter balance the excesses of invading forces, namely non muslim infidels. Since the occupation of mecca by muhammed and the unification of arabia under the one God, the goddess were expelled and indirectly , their progeny were restricted from places of power, covered and hidden from sight. Thus after the gulf war, many muslim populations across the world placed harsher restrictions on their women to counteract the excesses in iraq. Many women like mernissi protested the invasion of iraq by infidels because they knew they would suffer all the more. Even the feminists , like mernissi are still in bondage and dont even know it. She cant seem to outright reject the idea that maybe muhammed was just a bad man rather than a prophet. Maybe the quran and sunnah have not been perversly interpreted but rightly followed by people who essentiall agree with muhammeds teachings. Al Tabari, a great muslim historian quoted muhammed as saying : " Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing for themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his quran" (Tabari IX:113) "oh apostle How will a virgin express her consent? He said: By remaining silent" Baukari V9B86N98 (most authentic hadith in sunni islam) Culturally in islam women are expected to remain silent and are not to talk back to their husbands. silence is their usually recourse in order to not get beaten. aparently it also means go ahead and f*** me. I notice throughout the quran and sunnah that women are referred to regarding what the man is doing to the woman. It never refers to the 2 as a couple with equal rights. "He married her", "he consumated his marriage to her", " he forced her to wear a veil", etc. I am amazed that people like ayaan hirsi ali ever make it out and are able to make the break completely. Mernissi is highly educated and a professor but I guess even educated people can lack either the intestinal fortitude to confront the real evil or just basic common sense. :idea: I have read fatima mernissi. she is a feminist but still a islamic apologist who views the US as oppressors of muslims and to blame partially for the oppression of women in islamic societies.

Traditionally, whenever there is turmoil in the Umma(muslim community), they harken back to the Jahillya(the time of ignorance before islam. Basically the “balance ” has been upset. Peace in Islam is not as we see it, It is the presence of strict islamic shariah law that maintains balance in society. Because during the jahillya the people worshipped many vengeful Gods, the worst of whom were female such as , Al-Lat and manat, muslim men particular the Ulama (clergy) call upon the restoration of order in their own societies to counter balance the excesses of invading forces, namely non muslim infidels. Since the occupation of mecca by muhammed and the unification of arabia under the one God, the goddess were expelled and indirectly , their progeny were restricted from places of power, covered and hidden from sight.

Thus after the gulf war, many muslim populations across the world placed harsher restrictions on their women to counteract the excesses in iraq. Many women like mernissi protested the invasion of iraq by infidels because they knew they would suffer all the more.

Even the feminists , like mernissi are still in bondage and dont even know it. She cant seem to outright reject the idea that maybe muhammed was just a bad man rather than a prophet. Maybe the quran and sunnah have not been perversly interpreted but rightly followed by people who essentiall agree with muhammeds teachings. Al Tabari, a great muslim historian quoted muhammed as saying :

” Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing for themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his quran” (Tabari IX:113)

“oh apostle How will a virgin express her consent? He said: By remaining silent” Baukari V9B86N98 (most authentic hadith in sunni islam)

Culturally in islam women are expected to remain silent and are not to talk back to their husbands. silence is their usually recourse in order to not get beaten. aparently it also means go ahead and f*** me.

I notice throughout the quran and sunnah that women are referred to regarding what the man is doing to the woman.
It never refers to the 2 as a couple with equal rights. “He married her”, “he consumated his marriage to her”, ” he forced her to wear a veil”, etc.

I am amazed that people like ayaan hirsi ali ever make it out and are able to make the break completely. Mernissi is highly educated and a professor but I guess even educated people can lack either the intestinal fortitude to confront the real evil or just basic common sense.

:idea:

]]> By: mindy abraham http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13964 mindy abraham Tue, 15 May 2007 11:12:05 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13964 Damn it WHY is this NOT an issue for feminists????? I can't believe that they would not care. I read on another blog about a woman who was friends with feminists and would discuss the plight of women everywhere. When her army husband went to afghanistan her friends turned on her and would not even give clothes to her husband when he was collcting them because they did not want to help an armny project. THAT to me is hypocricy and it gets me angry. :mad: Damn it WHY is this NOT an issue for feminists????? I can’t believe that they would not care. I read on another blog about a woman who was friends with feminists and would discuss the plight of women everywhere. When her army husband went to afghanistan her friends turned on her and would not even give clothes to her husband when he was collcting them because they did not want to help an armny project. THAT to me is hypocricy and it gets me angry. :mad:

]]> By: John in PA http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13975 John in PA Tue, 15 May 2007 12:41:25 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13975 Thank you Christina. I read 90% it and wish to share a philosophy of my own that I thnk you might agree with. (Aside from Islamic feminists making the headway) As I see the femminist movement its like Unions. At some point the original mission is largely accomplished. However, the entities created to achieve the objectives cannot accept obsolescence. In the end, victimology is a fabricated concept where ultimately the victim no longer has a defined opressor. The victims stay victims and new victims continue, BUT these victims are merely victims of self. Victims of a taught belief wherein their problem is due to a non-definitive opressor. Self seeking is not in the picture, but blame is. Victimology of USA feminism is so absorbed in itself that it cannot see the cause for others who have real opressors. I am not suggesting that feminist opression is totally non existent here in the us, but it does appear that, today, there are far more of those "victims" who cannot identify a specific opressor. Rather, they specify an ambiguous groupthink opressor like "society as a whole". A Parallel Exists - MODERN LIBERALISM: Liberalism has turned the corner toward its establishment's obsolescence of purpose. However, those who cannot accept the loss of power and purpose must continue to create the need for their existence. This is how we end up with HR1592 and other things like it .... Blah blah blah... Back to victimology: Root Cause = Victimology = The creation of victims such that an entity's or ideology's purpose for existence is extended past achievement of the goal. Solution @ home (USA) = Stop teaching blame casting onto others for personal deficiencies. Curb the effectiveness of victimology. Teach the practice of finding your talents and applying them. Avoid the practice of giving credit where there is none earned. I do try to practice this in all things. Solution @ home & Abroad: Teach gratitude of home situation by teaching otricities abroad. Ideally, those who realize how good we have it will become the activists against otrocities abroad and remain defenders against real opressors at home. Fianlly back to liberalism: BLAME CASTING ONTO OTHERS is the primary modus operandi (sp?) of MODERN LIBERALISM. Liberlism used to be "challenge goal oriented authority", now its "goal oriented authority is wrong and evil and causes of all wrongs in society". The oxymoron is that Socialism is the New Liberalism, but followers don't see it. Oxymron, because socialism begins with demotivation and enda as the opressor of all. Thank you Christina. I read 90% it and wish to share a philosophy of my own that I thnk you might agree with. (Aside from Islamic feminists making the headway)

As I see the femminist movement its like Unions. At some point the original mission is largely accomplished. However, the entities created to achieve the objectives cannot accept obsolescence.

In the end, victimology is a fabricated concept where ultimately the victim no longer has a defined opressor. The victims stay victims and new victims continue, BUT these victims are merely victims of self. Victims of a taught belief wherein their problem is due to a non-definitive opressor. Self seeking is not in the picture, but blame is.

Victimology of USA feminism is so absorbed in itself that it cannot see the cause for others who have real opressors.

I am not suggesting that feminist opression is totally non existent here in the us, but it does appear that, today, there are far more of those “victims” who cannot identify a specific opressor. Rather, they specify an ambiguous groupthink opressor like “society as a whole”.

A Parallel Exists - MODERN LIBERALISM:
Liberalism has turned the corner toward its establishment’s obsolescence of purpose. However, those who cannot accept the loss of power and purpose must continue to create the need for their existence. This is how we end up with HR1592 and other things like it …. Blah blah blah…

Back to victimology:
Root Cause = Victimology = The creation of victims such that an entity’s or ideology’s purpose for existence is extended past achievement of the goal.

Solution @ home (USA) = Stop teaching blame casting onto others for personal deficiencies. Curb the effectiveness of victimology. Teach the practice of finding your talents and applying them. Avoid the practice of giving credit where there is none earned. I do try to practice this in all things.

Solution @ home & Abroad: Teach gratitude of home situation by teaching otricities abroad. Ideally, those who realize how good we have it will become the activists against otrocities abroad and remain defenders against real opressors at home.

Fianlly back to liberalism: BLAME CASTING ONTO OTHERS is the primary modus operandi (sp?) of MODERN LIBERALISM. Liberlism used to be “challenge goal oriented authority”, now its “goal oriented authority is wrong and evil and causes of all wrongs in society”. The oxymoron is that Socialism is the New Liberalism, but followers don’t see it. Oxymron, because socialism begins with demotivation and enda as the opressor of all.

]]> By: Babs http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13986 Babs Tue, 15 May 2007 13:39:05 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13986 The worst case of feminist opression that I was ever party to was at the hands of another woman... She, my boss, was of Hispanic heritage and she simply did not want any other woman of non Hispanic heritage to rise and succeed within the firm. I had to change jobs in order to reach my potential. Unfortunately, it was out of the frying pan and into the fire as I was the only woman in my new dept... After 18 months of doing the best work I could possibly do the men accepted me as "top dog". I don't think that would ever had happened in my prior firm. Who am I kidding, I know it wouldn't have... The idea of feminists eating their own is well established. The fact that there is a sucking silence on the part of feminists in the U.S. has been well documented. Case in point, Bill Clinton jizzing all over the blue dress... I heard nothing from the feminists on that one. Can you imagine the roar if it was a repub pres??? The worst case of feminist opression that I was ever party to was at the hands of another woman…
She, my boss, was of Hispanic heritage and she simply did not want any other woman of non Hispanic heritage to rise and succeed within the firm.
I had to change jobs in order to reach my potential. Unfortunately, it was out of the frying pan and into the fire as I was the only woman in my new dept…
After 18 months of doing the best work I could possibly do the men accepted me as “top dog”. I don’t think that would ever had happened in my prior firm. Who am I kidding, I know it wouldn’t have…
The idea of feminists eating their own is well established. The fact that there is a sucking silence on the part of feminists in the U.S. has been well documented. Case in point, Bill Clinton jizzing all over the blue dress… I heard nothing from the feminists on that one. Can you imagine the roar if it was a repub pres???

]]> By: John Cunningham http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13995 John Cunningham Tue, 15 May 2007 14:03:11 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13995 A lot of us Westerners have noticed this but could only respond with, 'yes, dear'. A lot of us Westerners have noticed this but could only respond with, ‘yes, dear’.

]]> By: Darrell http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13997 Darrell Tue, 15 May 2007 14:15:25 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-13997 "Muslim women could use moral, intellectual, and material support from the West to improve their situation. But only a rational, reality-based women's movement would be capable of actually helping. Women who think that looking like a pear is an essential human right are not valuable allies." What an excellent point. These three sentences should be branded onto the behinds of every radical feminist in the United States. “Muslim women could use moral, intellectual, and material support from the West to improve their situation. But only a rational, reality-based women’s movement would be capable of actually helping. Women who think that looking like a pear is an essential human right are not valuable allies.”

What an excellent point. These three sentences should be branded onto the behinds of every radical feminist in the United States.

]]> By: EZRider http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14000 EZRider Tue, 15 May 2007 14:28:41 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14000 This has bothered me for years. When I was a kid, I bought the whole "culture" argument. But it's bunk. Thanks for the post Pat, next time I get into a verbal scuffle with a self-proclaimed "feminist" I have a whole slew of ammo to throw. This has bothered me for years. When I was a kid, I bought the whole “culture” argument. But it’s bunk. Thanks for the post Pat, next time I get into a verbal scuffle with a self-proclaimed “feminist” I have a whole slew of ammo to throw.

]]> By: Brian H http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14008 Brian H Tue, 15 May 2007 14:44:21 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14008 This brings to mind an observation just made by Thomas Sowell in <a href="http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YmZkZTRjNjBkM2M1NjIwZjIxZjljMWMxOTA3OTg5YzM=" rel="nofollow"> Angry Left</a>. [[Their greatest anger seems to be directed at people and things that thwart or undermine the social vision of the Left, the political melodrama starring the left as saviors of the poor, the environment, and other busybody tasks that they have taken on. It seems to be the threat to their egos that they hate.]] Egos are heavily invested in both anti-Americanism and female chauvinism, so only causes that stroke both will be permitted by those drunkest on rhetoric and power over academia and media. This brings to mind an observation just made by Thomas Sowell in Angry Left. [[Their greatest anger seems to be directed at people and things that thwart or undermine the social vision of the Left, the political melodrama starring the left as saviors of the poor, the environment, and other busybody tasks that they have taken on.

It seems to be the threat to their egos that they hate.]]

Egos are heavily invested in both anti-Americanism and female chauvinism, so only causes that stroke both will be permitted by those drunkest on rhetoric and power over academia and media.

]]> By: drillanwr http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14015 drillanwr Tue, 15 May 2007 15:50:41 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14015 The fascist left groups who are "feminists" and "gay activists" are the most narcissistic organisms on the face of the Earth (I say this because I would suspect some bacteria, virus, or other micro organisms buried deep within the Earth that would be so narcissistic as to infect and wipe out all life on the Face of the planet ... Well, the narcissistic groups on the face of the planet have that possibility and probability also, I suspect.) The fascist left groups who are “feminists” and “gay activists” are the most narcissistic organisms on the face of the Earth (I say this because I would suspect some bacteria, virus, or other micro organisms buried deep within the Earth that would be so narcissistic as to infect and wipe out all life on the Face of the planet … Well, the narcissistic groups on the face of the planet have that possibility and probability also, I suspect.)

]]> By: suek http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14016 suek Tue, 15 May 2007 15:59:53 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14016 You're mistaken if you think that the feminist movement is about feminism. Read Christina Hoff Sommers first book "Who Stole Feminism". The truth is that political activism of any sort - feminism, gay agenda, PETA - any of them are taken over by those who were early on indoctrinated by the Communists. Khrushev said "Our grandchildren will bury your grandchildren" and he could say that because he knew that they had top quality propagandists placed in our universities, and working in our media to cause the internal rot that would result in our nation falling. There is no longer a USSR, so it isn't a nation against nation, but there are still communistic ideologues who want to take over the power of the US, and through the US, the world. Even though communism has failed every time it's been tried, they feel that if they can just get it _right_, they can create heaven on earth. It's all a boondoggle, and you can see it in exactly this sort of situation - they don't really care about women, or gays or animals. Like the muslims who are using the courts to change our laws, they use the courts to undermine our system. The muslims are just copying their tactics. The courts are our achilles heel. No elections, no will of the people heard, lifetime appointments. You’re mistaken if you think that the feminist movement is about feminism. Read Christina Hoff Sommers first book “Who Stole Feminism”. The truth is that political activism of any sort - feminism, gay agenda, PETA - any of them are taken over by those who were early on indoctrinated by the Communists. Khrushev said “Our grandchildren will bury your grandchildren” and he could say that because he knew that they had top quality propagandists placed in our universities, and working in our media to cause the internal rot that would result in our nation falling. There is no longer a USSR, so it isn’t a nation against nation, but there are still communistic ideologues who want to take over the power of the US, and through the US, the world. Even though communism has failed every time it’s been tried, they feel that if they can just get it _right_, they can create heaven on earth.
It’s all a boondoggle, and you can see it in exactly this sort of situation - they don’t really care about women, or gays or animals. Like the muslims who are using the courts to change our laws, they use the courts to undermine our system. The muslims are just copying their tactics. The courts are our achilles heel. No elections, no will of the people heard, lifetime appointments.

]]> By: carol m http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14018 carol m Tue, 15 May 2007 16:07:54 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14018 Remember when Madeline Albright was Secy of State she and her president presided over the take over by the Taliban of Afghanistan, and the stated policy, as stated by her female spokesperson was "the United States saw 'nothing objectionable' about the Taliban imposing its strict interpretation of Islamic law." Direct quote. Actually, the feminists tried to get their Dem allies in the Clinton admin to do something, to no avail. They must have given up the ghost after that, or maybe they didn't want to lift a finger to object to Islamofacist subjugation of women because didn't want to be allied with a GOP admin. So once again, the left's quest for power takes precedence over doing the right thing. :sad: Remember when Madeline Albright was Secy of State she and her president presided over the take over by the Taliban of Afghanistan, and the stated policy, as stated by her female spokesperson was “the United States saw ‘nothing objectionable’ about the Taliban imposing its strict interpretation of Islamic law.” Direct quote. Actually, the feminists tried to get their Dem allies in the Clinton admin to do something, to no avail. They must have given up the ghost after that, or maybe they didn’t want to lift a finger to object to Islamofacist subjugation of women because didn’t want to be allied with a GOP admin. So once again, the left’s quest for power takes precedence over doing the right thing. :sad:

]]> By: CoRev http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14019 CoRev Tue, 15 May 2007 16:19:44 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14019 Johm Cunningham, loved your response. Been married long? Or often? Johm Cunningham, loved your response. Been married long? Or often?

]]> By: Infidel http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14022 Infidel Tue, 15 May 2007 16:28:49 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14022 In their worldview, they are the underdog battlers against oppression here in America, their first aim is to be against conservatism, who they are for can vary widely. They support those with leftist rhetoric when they can find them, but in a pinch, they will side with anyone, as Carol and Brian's posts show, against Western conservatism will do. Good posting guys! In their worldview, they are the underdog battlers against oppression here in America, their first aim is to be against conservatism, who they are for can vary widely. They support those with leftist rhetoric when they can find them, but in a pinch, they will side with anyone, as Carol and Brian’s posts show, against Western conservatism will do.

Good posting guys!

]]> By: Tom http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14031 Tom Tue, 15 May 2007 17:56:53 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14031 Just keep repeating over and over... Religion of Peace. Religion of Pease. Ad infinitum. Just keep repeating over and over…

Religion of Peace.
Religion of Pease.

Ad infinitum.

]]> By: Iacobus http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14062 Iacobus Tue, 15 May 2007 21:06:49 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14062 I just want to reach into that 3rd picture and rescue that poor girl from being sexually mutilated. :cry: Eve Ensler. If there's any single woman that's earned my derision, it's that fucking smug, know-it-all asinine bitch. I just want to reach into that 3rd picture and rescue that poor girl from being sexually mutilated. :cry:

Eve Ensler. If there’s any single woman that’s earned my derision, it’s that fucking smug, know-it-all asinine bitch.

]]> By: Steve in NC http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14069 Steve in NC Tue, 15 May 2007 22:18:25 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14069 suek, interesting comment, remember Joseph McCarthy is evil, as has been taught to us by Hollywood and our great public school system. suek, interesting comment, remember Joseph McCarthy is evil, as has been taught to us by Hollywood and our great public school system.

]]> By: GREG G. S. http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14070 GREG G. S. Tue, 15 May 2007 22:23:08 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14070 Who's that so called photojournalist? I would would smash that freak in face oh, half dozen times with a mono-pod, then scoot out the back door. As far as Ensler is concerned she should go do stand-up in JizzDickaStan see how many laughs see gets. Who’s that so called photojournalist? I would would smash that freak in face oh, half dozen times with a mono-pod, then scoot out the back door. As far as Ensler is concerned she should go do stand-up in JizzDickaStan see how many laughs see gets.

]]> By: Heather http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14171 Heather Wed, 16 May 2007 06:52:20 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14171 This article brings up a good point regarding the hypocrisy of the feminist movement. Instead of being angry at them, though, I was left wondering what I was doing about the oppression of muslim women on a global scale. I was left wondering what could I do? I am raising 5 boys alone and running a wildlife clinic while my husband fights in Iraq--is keeping the home fires burning while my husband fights doing my part? Somehow I feel it's not. Yet, I know nothing about where to start or what to do. I have read a few books and several magazine articles about the subject and always walk away angry and saddened. Perhaps someone here can give me some ideas of how to take real steps---besides just feeling sad, appalled, disgusted, outraged......... This article brings up a good point regarding the hypocrisy of the feminist movement. Instead of being angry at them, though, I was left wondering what I was doing about the oppression of muslim women on a global scale. I was left wondering what could I do?
I am raising 5 boys alone and running a wildlife clinic while my husband fights in Iraq–is keeping the home fires burning while my husband fights doing my part? Somehow I feel it’s not. Yet, I know nothing about where to start or what to do. I have read a few books and several magazine articles about the subject and always walk away angry and saddened. Perhaps someone here can give me some ideas of how to take real steps—besides just feeling sad, appalled, disgusted, outraged………

]]> By: drillanwr http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14208 drillanwr Wed, 16 May 2007 12:31:44 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14208 I believe the only time I recall hearing the American feminist groups bitch about "women's rights" in other (especially poor) countries was shortly after GWBush took office and halted US funding of abortions for said countries (if I recall correctly ...). Gee, I wonder if Eve Ensler might understand just a tiny bit better if ALL her taste buds were surgically, laser, or acid scraped from her tongue, and her finger tips (including the nerves)were completely removed? I believe the only time I recall hearing the American feminist groups bitch about “women’s rights” in other (especially poor) countries was shortly after GWBush took office and halted US funding of abortions for said countries (if I recall correctly …).

Gee, I wonder if Eve Ensler might understand just a tiny bit better if ALL her taste buds were surgically, laser, or acid scraped from her tongue, and her finger tips (including the nerves)were completely removed?

]]> By: terry smyth http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14213 terry smyth Wed, 16 May 2007 12:48:48 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14213 drillanwr this would be the fate of anyone in the muslim world who dared to be a "feminist".For all their faults the american fems NEVER have to put up with this kind of bullshit so they are made inaccessable to the real world.They are able to pontificate from the ivory towers of academia when the "troops on the ground", ie real women are getting on with their lives, having children assisting their men in their careers be it in commerce or the military and not feeling they are USED or PUT APON or that they have an axe to grind about their feminity.All power to them and nothing to the harradines in academia who dont figure in the real world at all. Pity that they spew their poison onto the undergrads who may have never experienced real life or real love that a soldier going to the front to preserve the lifestyle, has to give. Just a thought from an aussie drillanwr
this would be the fate of anyone in the muslim world who dared to be a “feminist”.For all their faults the american fems NEVER have to put up with this kind of bullshit so they are made inaccessable to the real world.They are able to pontificate from the ivory towers of academia when the “troops on the ground”, ie real women are getting on with their lives, having children assisting their men in their careers be it in commerce or the military and not feeling they are USED or PUT APON or that they have an axe to grind about their feminity.All power to them and nothing to the harradines in academia who dont figure in the real world at all. Pity that they spew their poison onto the undergrads who may have never experienced real life or real love that a soldier going to the front to preserve the lifestyle, has to give.
Just a thought from an aussie

]]> By: Tim Roesch http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14221 Tim Roesch Wed, 16 May 2007 13:33:35 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14221 Greetings: This should be on a billboard with the following sub title... So, you say you're a feminist... Tim Roesch Command Private Major Greetings:

This should be on a billboard with the following sub title…

So, you say you’re a feminist…

Tim Roesch
Command Private Major

]]> By: Steve in NC http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14234 Steve in NC Wed, 16 May 2007 13:46:32 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14234 I have sent this around by email, with just the text and a link to here and to the WS included. I started the top of the email with the request to 'please read this' then pasted the text. at the end I wrote in bold 'One should consider who aligns with who politically' the email subject line is simple: 'the treatment of women in 2007' I sent it to those that would never see this otherwise maybe the next time they hear billary or a now spokesperson in the media they will begin to question their motives spread the word I have sent this around by email, with just the text and a link to here and to the WS included. I started the top of the email with the request to ‘please read this’ then pasted the text. at the end I wrote in bold
‘One should consider who aligns with who politically’

the email subject line is simple:
‘the treatment of women in 2007′

I sent it to those that would never see this otherwise

maybe the next time they hear billary or a now spokesperson in the media they will begin to question their motives

spread the word

]]> By: Jeanet http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14235 Jeanet Wed, 16 May 2007 13:48:22 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14235 @Heather: I think you are already doing an incredible job. (Bowing my head with respect for you, a strong woman.) I’m not in to the “feminist”-thing. First, because I think there are many shades between black and white. Second because I was brought up with the thought that man and woman are equal. A had a rough time being married to a guy who started to abuse me after the first 3 years of being happily married. With “abuse” I mean mentally and physically. A lot can be said about being in a situation like this. For instance, why didn’t I got out of it, but that’s off-topic. Just let me put it this way, 1999 wasn’t a good year for me and the start of a new century, new-years day 2000, left me with the awful pain that I had lost everything. (Meaning; EVERYTHING!.) I had to not only go trough the process of learning that I was NOT guilty and rebuilding myself (in more then one way) from a lot of shattered pieces, I also took up the responsibility of taking some care of an 18 month old girl. A Muslim girl. One year later she got a sister. I learned a lot and I take action when I can and/or feel like I have to. To make a long story short: I’m on a telephone-list. I can be called every hour of the day to be part of a circle of people who make sure that the oldest girl won’t be taken away to “disappear” in her dad’s native country, being married of to some cousin and…..being mutilated for life. I once scribbled a short note on a small peace of paper, carefully slipping it into the hand of a veiled woman at a market-place in Amsterdam. She was clearly being so suppressed that it made me winch for pain. Pain I could remember so well. You said; “Perhaps someone here can give me some ideas of how to take real steps—besides just feeling sad, appalled, disgusted, outraged………” Well, I gave you a few suggestions. I’m pretty sure you’ll have more good ideas yourself because it is not that difficult. Just, open your eyes and heart, reach into yourself and stay informed. (Apparently, NOT doing what these feminist groups are doing as in:” Only addressing what is political correct”.) Concerning what Pat posted above: I read this article last night. Only to scroll back again and again to the picture of the girl in Egypt being clitoral dismembered. Then I had a strange dream. The girl screamed out to the photographer;”Why do you take pictures? Leave your camera for what it is and get me out of here!” In my dream I realised that just showing this to make the world aware wouldn’t make it go away. That the very heart of this barbarian atrocities must be stopped. Than I saw a big city-square which was filled almost completely with women who screamed and yelled, throwing of their veils and showing their hair, laughing and dancing. Osama Bin Laden was the only man there, looking at the mass of women. His face showed a very scared and devastated look. Then he ran away as fast as he could. In his trace were drops of blood, a sword and a Quran. They all disappeared into thin air leaving a clean trace where he had run, the women celebrating on the city-square, now completely being filled by them. Then I woke up from the telephone ringing. A drunk idiot who dialled the wrong number. My first thought was slamming my phone against the bed-room wall but then I realised that would only cost me money I can’t afford to spend on a tantrum of my own. I counted ‘till 10, reminiscing on my dream and dozed of again with the thought of the Egyptian girl seizing the knife that was supposed to dismember her, only to use it on Osama B. Laden, cutting off his private parts. Today I have a stupid grin on my face, because “I have a dream….”. (Hanging some dried and red-white-and-blue painted male balls in my Christmas tree!) Yessss, indeed, I’M BAD!!!!! :twisted: (Missing Rummy so much on moments like this.) @Heather:

I think you are already doing an incredible job. (Bowing my head with respect for you, a strong woman.)

I’m not in to the “feminist”-thing. First, because I think there are many shades between black and white. Second because I was brought up with the thought that man and woman are equal.

A had a rough time being married to a guy who started to abuse me after the first 3 years of being happily married. With “abuse” I mean mentally and physically.

A lot can be said about being in a situation like this. For instance, why didn’t I got out of it, but that’s off-topic. Just let me put it this way, 1999 wasn’t a good year for me and the start of a new century, new-years day 2000, left me with the awful pain that I had lost everything. (Meaning; EVERYTHING!.)

I had to not only go trough the process of learning that I was NOT guilty and rebuilding myself (in more then one way) from a lot of shattered pieces, I also took up the responsibility of taking some care of an 18 month old girl. A Muslim girl. One year later she got a sister. I learned a lot and I take action when I can and/or feel like I have to.

To make a long story short:
I’m on a telephone-list. I can be called every hour of the day to be part of a circle of people who make sure that the oldest girl won’t be taken away to “disappear” in her dad’s native country, being married of to some cousin and…..being mutilated for life.

I once scribbled a short note on a small peace of paper, carefully slipping it into the hand of a veiled woman at a market-place in Amsterdam. She was clearly being so suppressed that it made me winch for pain. Pain I could remember so well.

You said;
“Perhaps someone here can give me some ideas of how to take real steps—besides just feeling sad, appalled, disgusted, outraged………”

Well, I gave you a few suggestions. I’m pretty sure you’ll have more good ideas yourself because it is not that difficult. Just, open your eyes and heart, reach into yourself and stay informed. (Apparently, NOT doing what these feminist groups are doing as in:” Only addressing what is political correct”.)

Concerning what Pat posted above:
I read this article last night. Only to scroll back again and again to the picture of the girl in Egypt being clitoral dismembered. Then I had a strange dream.

The girl screamed out to the photographer;”Why do you take pictures? Leave your camera for what it is and get me out of here!”
In my dream I realised that just showing this to make the world aware wouldn’t make it go away. That the very heart of this barbarian atrocities must be stopped.
Than I saw a big city-square which was filled almost completely with women who screamed and yelled, throwing of their veils and showing their hair, laughing and dancing.
Osama Bin Laden was the only man there, looking at the mass of women. His face showed a very scared and devastated look. Then he ran away as fast as he could. In his trace were drops of blood, a sword and a Quran. They all disappeared into thin air leaving a clean trace where he had run, the women celebrating on the city-square, now completely being filled by them.

Then I woke up from the telephone ringing. A drunk idiot who dialled the wrong number. My first thought was slamming my phone against the bed-room wall but then I realised that would only cost me money I can’t afford to spend on a tantrum of my own.
I counted ‘till 10, reminiscing on my dream and dozed of again with the thought of the Egyptian girl seizing the knife that was supposed to dismember her, only to use it on Osama B. Laden, cutting off his private parts.

Today I have a stupid grin on my face, because “I have a dream….”. (Hanging some dried and red-white-and-blue painted male balls in my Christmas tree!)

Yessss, indeed, I’M BAD!!!!! :twisted: (Missing Rummy so much on moments like this.)

]]> By: Steve in NC http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14249 Steve in NC Wed, 16 May 2007 14:56:14 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14249 Jeanet & Heather stay strong, for you are a fighters for what is right .... y'all seen this? (getting used to living in the south) http://allafrica.com/stories/200705100789.html I wonder if the veil burnings by the soldiers are their own attempt at finding males who fight while wearing womens clothes. which brings to mind that they should have their own clitoral dismemberment. Jeanet & Heather

stay strong, for you are a fighters for what is right

….

y’all seen this? (getting used to living in the south)

http://allafrica.com/stories/200705100789.html

I wonder if the veil burnings by the soldiers are their own attempt at finding males who fight while wearing womens clothes. which brings to mind that they should have their own clitoral dismemberment.

]]> By: Heather http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14278 Heather Wed, 16 May 2007 18:26:47 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14278 Thanks for the encouraging words Steve and Jeanet, Getting used to the south myself---the Army moved us from the frigid north to a sweltering sauna of a state. Just not right. And the bugs--everytime I venture outside I'm eaten alive by fire ants or mosquitoes. But we do have sweet tea and hurricane parties--so it's not all bad. :smile: I really can't whine to my husband about the heat-when he's dealing with 114 degrees. Likewise, no matter how big the asiatic tiger mosquitoes get around here I can never compete with my husband's camel spider stories. He said the other morning he heard a scuffle on the floor. He rolled over to see a camel spider dragging a mouse back to its corner. According to him, it only took the spider about 4 minutes to completely devour it. Gives me the creeps just thinking about it....... Thanks for the encouraging words Steve and Jeanet,

Getting used to the south myself—the Army moved us from the frigid north to a sweltering sauna of a state. Just not right. And the bugs–everytime I venture outside I’m eaten alive by fire ants or mosquitoes. But we do have sweet tea and hurricane parties–so it’s not all bad. :smile:
I really can’t whine to my husband about the heat-when he’s dealing with 114 degrees. Likewise, no matter how big the asiatic tiger mosquitoes get around here I can never compete with my husband’s camel spider stories. He said the other morning he heard a scuffle on the floor. He rolled over to see a camel spider dragging a mouse back to its corner. According to him, it only took the spider about 4 minutes to completely devour it. Gives me the creeps just thinking about it…….

]]> By: Jeanet http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14305 Jeanet Wed, 16 May 2007 21:18:00 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14305 :roll: , fire ants and asiatic tiger mosquitoes. You mentioned you were running a wildlife clinic. Didn't realise it was so bad :mrgreen: (Okay, to be on the save side; Bringing up 5 boys by yourself while your husband is out on deployment is hard. I didn't count your 5 sons being part of the wildlife clinic although sometimes it might feel like that :mrgreen: ) And uhm, I'm pretty sure slipping notes to the fire ants just won't work. You need another strategy there :wink: :roll: , fire ants and asiatic tiger mosquitoes.

You mentioned you were running a wildlife clinic. Didn’t realise it was so bad :mrgreen:

(Okay, to be on the save side; Bringing up 5 boys by yourself while your husband is out on deployment is hard. I didn’t count your 5 sons being part of the wildlife clinic although sometimes it might feel like that :mrgreen: )

And uhm, I’m pretty sure slipping notes to the fire ants just won’t work. You need another strategy there :wink:

]]> By: Jeanet http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14308 Jeanet Wed, 16 May 2007 21:23:08 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14308 Steve in NC commented: "Jeanet & Heather stay strong, for you are a fighters for what is right". Thank you. (Blushing my cheeks Radiant Red behind the keyboard.) Steve in NC commented:

“Jeanet & Heather

stay strong, for you are a fighters for what is right”.

Thank you. (Blushing my cheeks Radiant Red behind the keyboard.)

]]> By: severian77 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14590 severian77 Fri, 18 May 2007 00:24:36 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2007/05/american-feminists-scum/#comment-14590 Anybody bet that N.O.W. supports the creation and development of sharia courts here? I mean why not? The hypocracy is already thick enough to spread like peanut butter. Anybody bet that N.O.W. supports the creation and development of sharia courts here? I mean why not? The hypocracy is already thick enough to spread like peanut butter.

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