This is what happens when libs get control of a country.

This is the kind of weakness that will be America, if broomhilda gets into power in 2008.

this is the same result we had in 1962 in Algeria, may-be it’s time to move and let the different factions there to solve their agressivity

When Giap released his “triumph” of finally kicking the Marines off the base to the press, low and behold it became truth. To the point a local Army dude that kicked around the base three years later heard the “story”, his unit believed it and he even published it in a book he wrote and only shelved in the local library. I plead my case for him to add a back page to his book with first hand testimony and Marine History book versions to no avail. I pasted the real version in later.

The moral here is wait and see what side history will take on this story, Sadr’s or the Brits.

Not quite. The Brits are not thinking long-term. Iraq sits between Syria, Saudi, Iran and Kuwait. It is of stategic import.

Without anyone to check AQI or any of the other Syrian or Iranian backed militias, they will direct their attacks against the oil fields in Saudi and the other Gulf States.

The price of oil will skyrocket in the West and in Europe…or there will be no oil for anyone…because the Gulf States will be too busy fighting off AQI attacks against them.

OBL has already stated that his next objective after Iraq is the Gulf states, Eqypt and Europe…especially Spain.

Moving all troops to Afghanistan is a strategic mistake.

The Brits are leaving because their media is against them staying in Iraq. The media does not run an Army. But in the West they make decisions by emotion, rather than by tactical and strategic consideration.

The propaganda of the left is wrong. They are not in Iraq. When they do visit Iraq, they stay in the Green Zone, get drunk and send out Iraqi stringers to do their dirty work for them.

The media in Britain lies as much as the media in America lies. Only idiots buy their bullshit. And only a fool pulls out of a fight when it is damn near won.

Not going to happen. The Gestapo in Iran have all the power…until they are deposed nothing in the mideast will change.

They will never be deposed unless the US takes them down. Their people are too scared to help themselves.

You aren’t going to secure the oil transit points while the wells themselves are constantly under attack…which will be the problem if the US abandons Iraq.

The strategic value of that oil cannot be overstated. Without it Europe would be forced to buy their oil from Russia. Then Russia will be able to excercise hegegomy over all of Europe.

It is not an outcome that I would like to see. Leaving Iraq now is just plain stupid.

Letting Iran continue to wage their proxy wars in Lebanon, Gaza, Yemen, Morroco, Eqypt and Pakistan is also not an acceptable outcome.

Sooner or later Iran must pay a price. That price is war.

What the British have done is to spend more of their time applying Clauswitz and Napolean’s theories to this war and less time studying Mao or even their own Sir Robert Thompson, who successfully defeated an insurgency in SE Asia.

I quote Sir Thompson:

“Necessary measures were taken to achieve the three objects: of protection, of uniting and involving the people, and of development with the ultimate aim of isolating the guerilla units from the population.”
( Defeating Communist Insurgency)

Sir Thompson’s experience coincides with Mao’s experience against the Japanese and the Nationalists.

Iran and AQ have read Mao. Their insurgencies and proxy wars are therefore predictable, the outcome of failure to control these insurgencies is also predictable.

I have also read OBL’s and AQ’s translated communications.
(They are available for public consumption for anyone willing to take the time to do the research.)

This war will go on ad nauseum until the West wins and the radical Muslim world finally pays a price that is too high.

VDH made it clear that no Muslim insurgency has ever been defeated without taking the gloves off.

In the US experience, this taking off of the gloves was known as General Order Number 100.

http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2373621

now, going to war in Irak was a mistake that your government did, cause there was no AQ there in the earlies 2000 to 2003 but in Afghanistan, yes, Saoudi, yes, Egypt, yes,… Saddam, even as a tyran, was the western alliee,he was laic, he handled all sorts of islamist revendications ; see now, this is the mess till another dictator will handle the power

and mutty, we know better than you the arab mentality, that was why we did not want that war ; but I agree, de Villepin was a stupid monkey, he could have said the same thing without hurting your sensibility, he just made a bluff fart, that he is paying now, he has court pursuits for a triggery attitude towards Sarko too , before the latter won the elections

Thanks. You are correct sir. There is no talking to these dogs…unless of course that talk is through the barrel of a mini-gun?

You make me laugh. You are such an idiot.