The Man Behind The De Palma Smear: Mark Cuban Declares War On The Troops

September 3rd, 2007 Posted By Pat Dollard.

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Mark Cuban

Billionaire Mark Cuban has decided to put all of his weight behind a campaign to smear US troops in Iraq as “monsters’. Cuban has decided that De Palma’s film “Redacted” must be seen as the cornerstone of his and De Palma’s self-declared anti-victory campaign against America and her troops fighing in Iraq. Cuban’s company Magnolia Pictures will be bringing this propganda campaign to a theater near you this winter. According to a source close to Cuban, the decision for Magnolia to develop, finance and distribute the film was personally made by Çuban. Cuban has a full producer credit on the film, and DePalma shot it on HiDef video at Cuban’s request, in order for it to qualify as fodder for Cuban’s hi-def cable channel. So far neither he or DePalma have explained how they can be “bringing the truth of the Iraq war to the American people”, as Louie DePalma has said, when neither of them have ever been to Iraq, filmed any of “Redacted” in Iraq, or spent one minute with any soldier in Iraq. Clearly they are only bringing you their imagined propagandists’ reality of Iraq. Both had the opportunity to go, both declined. They have chosen the coward’s path in a quest for legitimacy as spokesmen for the Iraq war, and as such both have failed in that quest. Indeed, they are left standing as laughingstocks. Their reach has exceeded their grasp. Cuban is a jet-set, armchair “Iraq Truther” who made sure not to have his private jet stop anywhere near Iraq. But he and DePalma are more than anxious to bring you the “reality of the Iraq war”. LMFAO.

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DePalma chilling in five star luxury while debuting his film to Europeans, nowhere near Iraq

( In case you haven’t heard of him, billionaire Cuban owns the Dallas Mavericks and supports the campaign against Global Warming by travelling in his private Gulf Stream V jet. He also decided to distribute the 9-11 paranoid conspiracy “Truther” film, “Loose Change”.)

DePalma said that going in it was his intention to make a film that would nauseate the American people, and thereby lead to a US withdrawal from Iraq. Well the only way for him to pull that off is if his film makes the case that the anomolous rape it fictionalizes is not actually an anomoly, but a “typical” snapshot of the US military’s behavior. In short, he would have to make his “troops-as-monsters” conceit appear to be typical of the troops, not atypical. This reveals a desire to create something that is nothing short of a willful and intentional smear built upon a lie. It also means that he decided not to look at Iraq for what it was, but to find something - anything - in it that would allow him to advance his propaganda campaign. Well Louie DePalma gave the game away when he confessed his excitement at his initial discovery of the rape story: “I knew I had a story!”. Now if that doesn’t mean “A story to suit my propaganda interests!”, then what does it mean?

The best defense DePalma has been able to muster about the lack of direct military reality in his film is “I had plenty of real stuff to put in but I didn’t put it in, and can’t show it to you to prove it, because my lawyers won’t let me”. That kind of bullshit pr spin may fly in Hollywood, but it isn’t flying here on earth. If you’ve got the goods, Louie, show them. It would appear quite clear why you haven’t already.

None of the troops in Mr. DePalma’s film are real. They are as imaginary as he and Mr. Cuban’s balls.

Close to a year ago, Daily Kos ran a featured post declaring that it was time to attack the troops if the anti-victory movement was to succeed. Clearly DePalma and Cuban took the cue.

More to follow…

UPDATE: Debbie Schlussel caught this early.:

… Billionaire NBA Owner/Producer Mark Cuban can’t take the heat from Schlussel readers with complaints over this anti-American troops film. Read the comments section on this post, in which Cuban writes that he’s setting his filter to delete all complaints about this movie. Hey, Mark, you know what they say about your promiximity to the kitchen when you can’t take the heat . . . .

Read Schlussel’s February Post


333 Responses

  1. Tim Roesch

    Greetings:

    What about doing a film on Cuban? Someone could follow him around and do an expose?

    I don’t know anything about this Cuban person…interview me as the expert…

    Tim Roesch
    Command Private Major
    tent pegs for sale or loan

  2. Bashman

    Seems to me a good documentary by someone who was actually there, and actually hanging with the troops and actually being blown up by actual IED’s may be able to paint a more accurate picture of the actual situation in Iraq, actually.

  3. JewishOdysseus

    If people like DePalma tried this sh!t during WWII, lib God FDR wd have thrown his traitorous ass into an internment camp, if not had him summarily hanged.

    Even for Hollyweird, this type of open anti-victory propaganda is stunning.

    Where are the crazed stalker/”fans” with snub-nosed .38s when you need them?

  4. John D Infidel

    According to the Wikipedia entry on Mark Cuban he is planning to distribute a version of the 9-11 conspiracy theory bullshitsumentary “Loose Change”. This guy makes my blood boil.

  5. Fire, Fire, Fire

    What’s with Cuban and his new anti-US media campaign?

  6. Clyde Conneer

    Can he BUY a larnyx and new lungs?

    That “documentary” is not showing anywhere near my position.

  7. V. Vedros

    I knew Cuban before he was a “rich” bastard!! He’s nothing special - what makes him an expert on anything??!! He was just lucky in the stock market! He’s always been ambitious but all I can say is that I knew him when……

  8. Fire, Fire, Fire

    And I love how no one else is reporting Cuban’s involvement. Can’t find a single story on Google. Maybe he thought he could hide. Good job, Pat

  9. Dan (The Infidel)

    Sounds like a good time for Texans to consider boycotting the Mavericks game as a protest. Make the protest loud.

    Cuban is another tool of the LMSM. And De Palma is just another shyster hollyweird type with an unamerican agenda. Boy if I could just get him in a room by himself for 5 minutes….

    This puke just pisses me off.

    Good line Pat: “None of the troops in Mr. DePalma’s film are real. They are as imaginary as he and Mr. Cuban’s balls.”

    However, pussies don’t have any balls.

  10. JerryC

    Cuban should be held to account as much as De Palma. Here’s a link to his company Magnolia Pictures Austin address and email contact:

    http://www.magpictures.com/contact.aspx

  11. Cridhe Saorsa

    Uh would a charge of treason apply here at least? I hope they try to show that trash in main street America. They underestimate the metal of fly-over country.

  12. Dan (The Infidel)

    US Code Title 18 Chapt 115 Sec 2381

    “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States. ”

    Yep, in time of war this clown is guilty. Hang him high.

  13. Randy Anderson, GySgt

    This guy owns a team in the heart of Texas, I can’t believe that Texans would stand for this guy. What is happening when this guy can get away with this type of behavior in Big D?? Dallas, oh, Dallas….what has happened to what was once a great city?? Revolt…revolt!!! Boycott!! :evil:

  14. Randy Anderson, GySgt

    Pure vermin. Sadistic commie bastards! Get a freakin rope and let’s watch him squirm.

  15. Jim

    They need to get that clown out of Texas…Dallas is now the team to be the most pussified and hated. What a freakin mommas boy

  16. just posting

    cuban looks like a cock-gobbler. The politicans makes up and enforce retarded laws, but ignore the most basic and important ones (treason) its insane how this is normal from government this era. Don’t wanna get on a tangent, anyways the south needs to boycott cuban like they did the dixie-dykes.

  17. WatcherWTF

    In World War Two Frank Capra made “Why We Fight”. Cuban and DePalma have made “Why Our Boys Are Subhuman And Why We Must Lose”

  18. drillanwr

    “DePalma said that going in it was his intention to make a film that would nauseate the American people …”

    I don’t know … The bucket of pig’s blood dumped on Carrie at the prom was pretty sickening in its day …

    Then there was the staged drill through the sexy girl’s belly and into the floor by the staged would be home intruder in Body Double …

    The drug dealers chain-sawing off of the limbs of the chained up Cuban guy in the hotel room shower in Scarface …

    But the topper for me was that idiotic would be romantic, anti-gravity, dance between Tim Robbins and Connie Nielsen in Mission To Mars … Yeah, that WAS the MOST nauseating!

  19. Jim

    It looks like “Peter Pan” has been kicked in his pussy too many times an De Palma is going to lick it and make it feel better. We’ll probally see them lovers together at a Dallas Fairies game

  20. John Howell

    It is not just the movies that are anti-american, look at comedy central on cable. In years past former Presidents did not criticicize the sitting President and a network cable or otherwise never put on a show that showed JFK as a womanizer.
    Comedy Central is part of those to be called enemies with the show Lil Bush.

  21. danielle

    HANG HIM! Like seriously. I’m soo mad! How can they do this? I hope his stupid film tanks.

  22. Dan (The Infidel)

    drillanwr:
    Now you know why I don’t waste my time at the movies. There’s WAY too much junk like you just described. I don’t rent them either. I’ll take a TCM movie any day over the trashola you just described. Turner might be a dickhead, but old movies are still better fare than anything that Brian De Puke can come up with.

  23. drillanwr

    Dan (The Infidel) -

    I hear ya, my friend. TCM is on my list too. I have a collection of Jimmy Stewart movies too. :beer:

    My 19 year old daughter loves Jimmy Stewart movies.

  24. Dan (The Infidel)

    drillanwr:

    Nice choice…Sounds like you have a right sharp daughter. Great minds, you know… :cool:

  25. GF

    What do you expect from a guy that hires Dan Rather and green lights a movie like ‘Bubble’?

    Conspiracy thought of the day:
    ‘Bubble’ is to Mark Cuban’s stock market miracle as ‘Redacted’ is to Dan’s Rathergate. :shock:

  26. Future0311

    Heh, so I’m not the only one that avoids the movie theater then…

  27. Future0311

    As for this guy… can you say ‘firing squad’?

    Make sure to load ALL the weapons with FMJ ammunition. No blanks.

  28. B.A. Hokom

    De Palma is nothing more than a person obsessed with murder and rape, every one of his films glorifies these sick attributes. He is a contributor to expose youth to graffic violence and he bathes himself with the victoms blood. The hypocracy of this film and his intent with it shows a weak man who will stop at nothing to promote himself at the expense of all victoms of war, the fact that he believes he is on the moral high ground is evident enough of his hypocracy. What happened in Iraq was not the consequence of war but the choice of a sick person and his friends loyal in a combat structure but not to his crime. De Palma will not change the course of Iraq with his film, he will more than likely win praise from the left wingnuts and an increasingly irrelavent Oscar award like M. Moore did. Punishing this country and especially the soldiers in Iraq because of one incredibly awful event seems to be the only trick these anti-victory folk can muster, and we will have to listen to them lecture us on why the world hates us, its because of their greed and ruthless goals of getting rich at the expense of all the rest of us. I never go to see movies anymore, they are nothing but trash, filled with sick horror and twisted messages, messages that the rest of the world sees. The culture of violence in this country rests entirely on the shoulders of those in Hollywood who profit from fictional murder, rape and abuse, hell they give themselves awards for creating this crap. Never again in this age will we see a film director with the skill of Alfred Hitchcock and/or David Lean, whom both managed to show wars without redaction.

    Regards

  29. Bob USMC

    Civil war in the USA looms, IMHO.

  30. TerryTate

    DePalma who? Sorry, don’t and won’t ever give recognition to anyone of that ilk.

    :wink:

  31. Boombop

    Is Mark Cuban George Soros bastard child? It sounds like they both come from the same pile of shit.

    This is the same kind of bullshit that went on during the VietNam war. The enemy love this kind of propaganda. You know what happen in VietNam when the American public feed into the horror spin. It left a lot of good people laying in the killing fields. We as Americans can not let this happen again!

  32. Grumpy

    I’m sorry but the headline from Drudge really broke my heart. This guy just has no idea.

  33. EdinTampa

    The enemy is desperate and because they are losing the Culture War they are attacking one of our MOST sacred, OUR TROOPS!

    The Army, Navy AirForce, Marines, Coast Guard, Law Enforcement & Fire Fighters are all RIGHT leaners and the left will cut off their RIGHT hand as long as they can win a political point.

    The Left has our education institutions, mainstream media, hollywood & much of the music industry. These are their weapons and we must defeat them by prosecuting treason & sedition as well as expanding our established footholds in these institutions. We MUST stay vigilant.

  34. Doug Ragan

    That little prick. No more Maverick tickets for me or my family.

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  36. monkeysdad

    Cuban is just a tool.

  37. Old11B

    A note to all you TCM movie watchers, yes the old movies are good but the Tcm movies have almost all been edited (scenes removed , etc) to make an old conservative movie have a leftist anti-gun anti-war tint. I grew up watching the originals and the new edited films are not quite the same…

  38. Irish Gal

    It’s gonna tank, trust me. America is not up for this bullshit. There is a small minority that will get their rocks off, but the backlash will be significant. Even at the polls. Bring it on you wussies…

  39. Bill Margraf

    Well, this is indeed a sad day for us Texans, and Dallasites. First, Jerry Jones, now Mark Cuban, and with the way the Rangers play, only thing left is the Stars, and they like to exit playoffs early.
    This breaks my heart, would have never thought a Texan could do this. Hope to heavens he is a tranplant.

  40. Bill

    If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times, make your voices heard in November and at the box office. I don’t go to movies either and rarely rent. And when I do its typically science fiction. As a scientist it’s far easier for me to swallow the X-files etc. than most of the crap at the theater. I think most of the movies made today are just plain vile.

    We’ve come a long way from Jimmy Stewart and blacklisting pinko commie sympathizing bastards. Now conservatives in Hollywood have to hide in closet.

    One of the outcomes of a lot of what we talk about on this board is the distinction between good and evil, pro vs anti-Americanism, has never been clearer. We have so much material with which to win the debate regarding who really is part of the “culture of corruption” and on what side the “vast conspiracy” really is residing. It’s not even up for debate that the MSM is completely liberal to the core and will defend liberal democrats at all costs.

    To those who read my drivel and who have children or who are responsible for children, make a difference in their lives. Don’t follow the societal recomended norm, question EVERYTHING society and our culture tell us to do. For example, we homeschool our kids and we also talk about good and evil and current events who the real bad guys are. I will never ever teach my kids the moral relativism that is so prevalent today, its been woven into the fabric of our society. PC thinking is so pervasive it’s sometimes hard to spot.

    Keep your powder dry and teach your kids the truth.

  41. Dave Rice

    Mark truther Cuban…why am I not surprised.

  42. danielle

    When the surge began to yield positive results, the anti-war crowd suddenly shifted their focus on the troops. Now they’re spitting their venom on young American heroes because they know victory is attainable.

  43. Cridhe Saorsa

    Get a rope!

  44. PhilNBlanx

    Remember the Pacers/Pistons basketbrawl game? Remember the way Artest was “shown the love” by Detroit fans?
    Boycott Maverick visiting games? No! Better go to Dallas’ away games and show Cuban some “Artest love” by opposing team fans everywhere that camera-lovin little bitch Cuban travels. Put a little “public” pressure on NBA Commissioner David Stern letting him know American sports has no place for quitters/traitors.
    Just sayin…

  45. WatcherWTF

    Well this post sure is catching on, Michelle Malkin is featuring it at the top of her site today.

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  47. XTexan

    The Iraq was is nothing like the Vietnam war - what is wrong with everyone? And why dosen’t anyone remind the world that the Democrats - (Kennedy/Johnson) started the Vienam war??? They forced us to pull out and Millions died!! Wow - great way to bolster out reputation!

    And I do not go to todays movies either!

  48. EdinTampa

    HEY HOLLYWOOD, WE HEAR YOUR MESSAGE & IT DON’T SOUND GOOD!

    By TRB, the RIGHT Music for the RIGHT times!

    www.therightbrothers.com

    I saw them in Atlanta, Old Bills for a GOP fundraiser & rally in June 2006.

  49. Passionate Conservative

    Mr. Hinckley, I have it on good authority that Brian DePalma and Mark Cuban just screwed Jodie Foster. You ready to go to work?

    /oldie but…

  50. al

    Bashman - checkout Gunner Palace and Outside the Wire if you want to see movies with real soldiers in Iraq.

  51. A. S. Wise- Commonwealth of Virginia

    the bastards.

  52. drillanwr

    Just as the LMSM writes “news” just to hear itself (See: MSNBC ratings, et al …)

    Hollywood, during this presidential administration and this war, and the war on terror in general (See: Spielberg’s sympathetic Munich), is making and churning out movies they don’t give a flying fuck if anyone actually pays to see … just as long as they get it out there for their “peeps” to admire and heap awards onto …

    Somebody needs to remind the LMSM and Hollywood that self-gratification can be easier and cheaper with a bottle of lotion and a porn magazine … Invite your friends over and they can praise your technique for hours.

  53. rumsfeld47

    Must be nice to be a pretentious billionaire. Must be nice.

    Hey everybody, I’m done with Marine Combat Training and off to my MOS school in Meridian, Mississipi. I’m an aviation supply clerk. I’ll be able to post a lot more now, as in MCT we only get Sunday liberty and last Sunday Camp Pendleton’s power went out because of a few raindrops.

    You know you’re a Marine when sleeping on a flat concrete surface is a luxury. As for Mark Cuban, he’s a very special man and we have to give him credit: not many people have the ability to suck their own cock. And hey, I hear he swallows.

    I’m trying to think of what my drill instructors would say about Mark Cuban. They’d probably have to invent some new cuss words.

    Like “fuckbag”. Put that one in your cargo pocket, I just made it up. More to come, brothers.

    semper fidelis

  54. Edwin

    Mark Cuban–champion of the Internet–now has to filter and censor comments that he doesn’t like. What a fucking pussy.

  55. Dan (The Infidel)

    Hey Rummy:

    The word for Cuban and De Palma is sugar-coated fucktard.

    Old11b:

    Yeah, I grew up with those old movies too. I’ve watched several Gary Cooper movies lately, and TCM didn’t cut shit out.

    Still a better choice than anything DePalma and his ilk can produce.

  56. Walter E. Wallis

    The rapists were tried and convicted by our military. I wonder how many soldiers in other armies were tried for rape?

  57. dukeruke

    Um… LOUIE de Palma was Danny DeVito’s character on “Taxi” — BRIAN de Palma directed this film.

    But anyway, everyone here’s getting so upset — look, what do you expect? It’s Hollywood. It’s a movie, so of course there’s an element of embellishment/fantasy to it, and of course they’re going to present whatever slant on the story they want.

    But by getting all riled up, talking about “treason” and watching someone swing from a rope — well, you’re all just playing into their hands. They WANT you to have that kind of reaction, to say those kinds of things — it only makes them look sane and all of you look crazy.

    The best thing for everyone to do is just stay home and NOT SEE THE MOVIE. Then you’re sending your own, clear, personal message to the filmmakers and Hollywood saying that you don’t agree with them and aren’t interested in what they are trying to promote. When the movie opens (and from what I hear it will only have limited runs in a few large cities, so never fear — it won’t be coming to a multiplex near you), don’t go see it — instead see some mindless comedy or action film. Keep the numbers down on this and it’ll just go away quietly — next year at this time nobody will even remember it.

  58. Luigi Aronson

    Pat-
    What about Mark Cuban’s Fallen Patriot Fund? http://www.fallenpatriotfund.org/

    It looks like he started it. Did it die out?

  59. Anne

    Unless and until we bring back and USE the Alien and Sedition acts and try these traitors for treason we are stuck with these self-indulgent, ungrateful apparachniks declaring war on America.

    This jerk has made a fortune here. He deserves to lose it. Boycott everything he owns or stands for and maybe a contingent of real men, our military, want to make an official visit to Cuban- on behalf of the rest of us who would like to see this phony, at best, have his citizenship revoked. Let him go live with the Mullahs. He can take Rosie O’Donnell, Babs Streisand and the rest of the liberal fatsos with him as wives. :beer:

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  61. PD

    Cuban is a total POS for bashing the troops looking to make money off the misery of a family in Iraq while pushing his agenda to discredit the troops. Punishing the entire army for what a few unscrupulous individuals did during war is rediculous. As for the film maker, this is not art or entertainment, just another piece of sensationalized garbage.

  62. bob

    About all the windbag has done is bought low sold high ( he s a fraud who made money off of Al Gores Internet economy when Google was trading for $800 a share.. )

    If the little freak wants rape scenes lets give it to him baby , take that little jet of his , put him on it and ship him off to a Turkish prison for a months of r/r …report back on that little Richie rich .

    (just because one has money , does not exclude one from being a a member of the stupid club. Ask Barbra Streisand , or any dork who owns an NBA team ..

  63. Strategery

    Cuban is an American Patriot

  64. WatcherWTF

    Hey dukerduke -

    The Louie DePalma things is obviously a joke on DePalma’s name. Your density on that point explains the rest of your post.

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  66. Dan (The Infidel)

    Strategery:
    “Cuban is an American Patriot” So was Benedict Arnold at one time.

  67. DJ

    I checked Cuban’s website for the Fallen Patriot Fund, and it doesn’t look like any grants have been handed out in two years. Doesn’t look like a long-standing committment to the troops and their families by MC.

    I’m a native Texan and cheer for Texas teams (except the ‘horns…this Ag can’t go that far) but I can no longer support anything that Mark Cuban has anything to do with. Sorry Mavs.

    He got rich with a dot.com and this gives him credibility? NOT! If you’ve ever seen him on TV, he’s just an idiot with a lot of money. Big deal.

  68. mike obrien

    i heard this worthless lowlife scum on the radio while back talking about his 9/11 nut ball conspiracy theory movie he was bankrolling saying that the only reason he was making the movie was to show that the crazy theories out there weren’t true. you know to give this person a worldwide audience to get it out in the open so everyone could see it wasn’t true? LOL yeah and that makes about as much sense as my wiping my #ss then taking a sh!t. truth of the matter is this guy is an america hater and he must be trying to have a p!ssing on america contest with his pal george soros. a way has to be found to punish this guy in the pocket book. what’s really scary to me however is that there are enough useful idiots around the world to believe all this trash they put out. i can’t tell you how many european friends (intelligent one’s at that) regurgitating every single line from michael moore’s movies to me as if it were gospel. what a joke. the former head of the soviet union before gorbachav said, “if i had hollywood i’d have the world”. well, it’s obvious now that our enemies have them in their pocket. God help us all. i can’t imagine the hatred this film is going to create for our country all around the globe. how many soldiers are going to be killed because of this disgusting film and how much longer will the war go on because the enemy is emboldened. both of these men should be put up against a wall and shot.

  69. Dan (The Infidel)

    Cuban can play the fence sitting game all he wants. The real Cuban lies where his money is. Giving money for charitable causes as a tax writeoff to to appear patriotic doesn’t make you patriotic.

    You want to be a patriot? Good then be consistant. Don’t support the troops on the one hand then stab them in the back with the other hand.

    Anyone who stabs the troops in the back…no matter what else he or she does…is just another useless oxygen thief.

  70. gary

    why is everybody so up set? just relax and practice good old american consumerism. dont see the movie and contact any sponsor of the dallas mavericks and let them know your disgust. consumerism folks thats the key to success.

  71. Brent

    1. Amazing a guy who lost his business’ licenses in college for having high school freshman girls drinking and stripping at his bars has some moral outrage….50K people died on Americas highways last year due to alcohol 3500 have died in Iraq in over 4 years.

    2. Who is going to figure and post the odds in Vegas for the remainder of Mr. Cuban’s lifespan? It’s over…get your house in order.

  72. KB Mills

    Why would anyone use an extreme,isolated,small incident to inflame others and condemn the huge overall majority that are very conscentious,good,and law abiding group of patriots?There are large groups of people out there that already hate America and Americans and they will take any little tidbit and blow it up to be representative of everyone involved with our freedom efforts.And, what makes it disgusting,sad,and hurtful is that it is our own citizens and neighbors who have greatly benefitted from being an American that do things like that.They “hate” certain American segments of society so much that they do not care that the ‘whole’ will suffer.It must be a terrible burden to be like DePalma,Cuban,and a whole bunch of the Hollywood crowd to be so instilled with all powerful knowledge, that they think their way is the only way.And, being stars and famous, they do not get only one person’s share of the right to make public decisions,but much, much more.I wish Hollywood would just stick to it’s business of entertainment instead of trying to determine policy for the government.It is extremely hard to even find movies anymore that do not contain movie stars or that are directed by folks I consider to have extremely far, fringe left ideas.And, I refuse to see those movies any longer.I will not support any of those movie stars that curse and belittle MY COUNTRY.

  73. Alex

    War-related movies that I’d pay to see
    1. Any movie that shows Muslim expansion, with civilian deaths, for the last 1,500 years.
    2. Explanation of Islam, including extra taxation on the Dhimmi (non-Muslims), and the collapse of non-Muslim populations as soon as Muslims reach 50% of population.

  74. MM

    I see there were over 300 rapes in Dallas in 2006. I expect there were some in 2007 as well. I’ll bet many of them are unsolved. What’s Cuban doing in his own backyard to help?

  75. WatcherWTF

    Uh, Pat, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but your post has made the Drudge Report.

  76. Kevin Bergstrom

    This will guarantee my bocott of all things dealing with the Dallas Mavericks. Glad to be in America where Cuban and me can both do what we need to do. Hope others exercise their right to do the same. Best support for the troops possible is for jerks like Cuban to express their opinion.

  77. Jim Dowd

    Most of these comments are kind of strange.
    This IS a true story. I remember reading it when it came out and thought about how insane it was. I’m not sure why it would make people upset if it were to be told.
    Especially comments about treason… Not sure where that comes into play? Reporting a story that’s been confirmed as true is in no way treason… weird.

  78. Don't go to Mav's games

    Isn’t the respected journalist (puck) Dan Rather one of Cuban’s right hand men with HDNET??
    How about caling your cable company and tell them you want HDNET taken off your subscription. Screw these pigs.

  79. Dan (The Infidel)

    Damn Pat….You made it to Drudge. Congrats man!!! Just goes to show that CNN and the rest of the defeatocratz don’t have a monopoly on the news. One way or another the truth cannot be hidden…even by a large news org like CNN.

    You rule dude!!

  80. Alex

    While I share the sentiments of most of you, I shudder to think of what sort of Anti-American propaganda will be paid for out of $100 barrel oil x 700 billion barrels of oil owned by Muslim governments. This $70 trillion (vs. total production spending by Hollywood of $2 billion/year, or $20 million by Mr. Cuban for Redacted) is enough to bring to the big screen everything, real or imagined, that Americans or non-Muslims have ever done that Muslims find offensive. Toss in political contributions to US politicians (who, after Craig, probably seem even more sexually devious than ever) from pro-Islamic, anti-military donors, and Cuban and De Palma will seem like moderates. If Broadcast.com and Mavericks games can provide the funding to do this much reputation damage to the US military (which can and should fund its own movies, to tell its side of the story), imagine what 4-5 million barrels a day of $70/barrel oil purchased from Islamic nations can do. It’s only a matter of time before movie producers realize that they can get their movies funded from governments that can, like Billy Jack did, pay for the movies and theaters and four wall them. So much for not seeing movies: they don’t have to make money when they offer propaganda paid for by mosques, charities, and governments sympathetic to those who kill non-believers.

  81. drillanwr

    @Jim Dowd -

    The movie is (one thing) … To be released especially DURING the ongoing war, where the enemy WILL use it for their own propagand purposes to incite violence against our troops … In addition, it is more than obvious DePalma (and it appears Cuban) have an agenda beyond the telling of a horrible story … They intend to paint this as a broad reflection of ALL our troops and their actions in Iraq. Read the comments by DePalma:

    http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyid=2007-08-31T150344Z_01_L31903844_RTRUKOC_0_US-VENICE-IRAQ.xml&src=rss&rpc=22&sp=true

    “The movie is an attempt to bring the reality of what is happening in Iraq to the American people,” he (DePalma) told reporters after a press screening.

    While horrific, the one episode of an entire war IS NOT the reality of what our troops are doing in Iraq.

    If you can’t see what is going on here then you have been sold their bill of goods already …

  82. Rob

    Osama Bin Cuban strikes at the heart of America again. Where is he hiding now?

    DePalma must be his bung hole buddy.

  83. Dan (The Infidel)

    Jim Dowd:

    You missed the point. Telling a true story just to put out more leftist agitprop is what has pissed most people off here. De Palma has no intention of seperating out the whaet from the chaff in or Armed Forces…nor will he put up a disclaimer saying that this incident is NOT representative of the actions of the rest of our Armed Forces.

    Lastly, if he wanted to do a pic on Iraq, why not show the atrocities commited by AQ and Saddam. Why not show the progress that we have made on the ground thus far? Why not show Iraqis saying to US troops that US troops are more Iraqi than they are?

    But no. De Palma is not interested in showing what is going right in Iraq…or in supporting the troops. He is like most of Hollywood from the Zinn view of American Armed Forces.

    Enlighten yourself.

  84. Mason Jahr

    Every possible means of embarrassing, annoying and impoverishing this low life should be employed. I hope you Texans will boycott his team and leave them playing in an empty building. A mass return of merchandise to his store would be a news maker if it could be organized. Think of it…mounds of jerseys etc. piled high and on national television.

    Parasitic wimp.

  85. dukeruke

    Actually, WatcherWTF, I would say that the use of the joke takes away from the overall message of the blog posting. Just as all the threats and calls for treason on here take away from the overall point everyone’s trying to get across. But anyway, good luck with everything.

  86. MacDaddy

    Why doesn’t it surprise me that Mark Cuban is behind this. A man who is as classless on the court (oh, wait. He doesn’t actually play basketball) as he is off the court. Something tells me that when the Mavs show up in San Antonio, a big military town, the abuse that rains down upon them will be magnificent.

  87. Noehedujks

    Mark Cuban established the Fallen Patriot Fund several years ago to benefit families of injured and killed Iraq War veterans. He decided to distribute the ridiculous “Loose Change” movie because he wanted to expose it as a complete fraud, in his view.

    Now, he is involved in a movie showing a different side of the Iraq war than the images fed to you by Fox News.

    By the way, I would like to congratulate all of the right-wingers on this board for your lovely Iraq War. Nice job. As you peeled the “W” stickers off of your SUV’s a few months ago (around the time the government quietly changed “Freedom Fries” back to “French Fries,”) I hope you felt some sense of shame, however small, at what your inane, trivial desires created: an illegal, immoral war that will have catastrophic ramifications for years to come.

  88. Guy Ghisu

    Hearing of Mr.Comrade DePalma’s film ,an imaginary indictment for all of our brave military,is disgusting.Is Comrade Mr. Sean Penn starring also?Mr. DePalma and Comrade Cuban(Kuban)are our present day Klaus Fuchs(the degenerate Las Alamos Nuclear Physicist who gave not sold the secrets of the A-bomb to the Soviets).)Of course Mr. Fuchs did it as a matter of “conscience”,just as comrade DePalma and Cuban are venting their anti-American garbage are.Maybe,when the next major terrorist attack occurs on American soil our “comrades” families are the victims.I pray that most level headed Americans see through all the bulllshit.guyg

  89. NavVet

    First off, De Palma is a never was. As for Cuban, screw this guy, boycott not only this film, let’s boycott the Mavs and anything else he has his hand in and show this narcissistic prick what it’s like to be hurt in the wallet.
    -nuff said.

  90. Dan (The Infidel)

    dukeruke:

    Yours is the minority view. Treason is what this is all about. We don’t put up with treasonous slackers here.

    Calling for this slacker’s head because of his treason, doesn’t take away from the points made here IT IS THE POINT.

  91. yogibard

    What a group-think circle jerk.

  92. Dan (The Infidel)

    MacDaddy:

    “Something tells me that when the Mavs show up in San Antonio, a big military town, the abuse that rains down upon them will be magnificent.”

    Well said. :beer:

  93. NavVet

    and yogibard is the pivotman

  94. Dan (The Infidel)

    yogibard:
    “What a group-think circle jerk.” Perfect description of leftists and the MSM. And De Palma and Cuban…

  95. Roy Cantwell

    It seems Mark Cuban has let his last name take precedence over good sense. As a Fort Worth resident I at times have taken pleasure in his antics as the owner of the Dallas Mavericks. However, I will no longer follow their quest in the NBA nor support them in any way. That frees up some reading time for more important things. It’s a shame, one who made his wealth in this country, now spits on the very ones who make that possible. :twisted: :twisted:

  96. WatcherWTF

    Yogibard was addressing the Daily Kos. Or maybe it was Hollywood.

  97. sullly

    yogitard:
    I’d tell you to go fuck yourself but it appears you already do.

  98. Alex

    If you were going to make war propaganda movie, what subject would you choose? I would fund an epic about how the Chinese annexed East Turkestan, 95% Muslim, in 1949 and used hard core imperialism to make a Chinese-majority state, Xinjiang. This includes the first Chinese nuclear test (Mao though Muslims made the best bomb fodder), industrial scale rape of Muslim women (in the hundreds of thousands, with a smaller army than the US has in Iraq) and mandatory contraceptive use forced on the (Caucasian) Uyghur people up to present day, forced marches out of the cities into wilderness, and starvation, unless you want subsidized pork. I’d have a character explain that the US military has intervened to save China (in WW II, from the genocidal Japanese) and, in 10 of the last 12 US-related conflicts involving Muslims, to save Muslim lives. The movie would ask: When have Muslims or Chinese armies ever shed blood to help each other? Answer: Never. China and Dar al-Islam should be begging to have America’s help to help them fight the other, rather than having both of them pretending they get along, and that we are an enemy of both of them. Any billionaire willing to fund this story? Mark?

  99. Dan (The Infidel)

    WatcherWTF:
    “Yogibard was addressing the Daily Kos. Or maybe it was Hollywood.”

    No doubt…
    People in here think for themselves. They don’t need the LMSM or some Hollywood rich boy/girl to do that for them like so many other American Dhimis do.

  100. Steve O.

    A quick look at Brian De Palma’s filmography will show he’s always been a pervert, making salacious films in which helpless beautiful young women are tortured, raped, and murdered in long, drawn-out, extremely sexy close-ups.

    De Palma’s films have probably inspired more domestic abuse and serial rapists than any other director’s. Anywhere but Hollywood, this lowlife would be considered a sexual predator. Instead, he’s made millions staging and photographing the degradation, torture, and deaths of naked and near-naked women.

    That he has the gall now to get on a high-horse, to lecture us all about the Iraq war he knows NOTHING about, is only too typical of Hollywood, where ignorance, arrogance, and obscene wealth lead to grand delusions.

    I say this as a screenwriter who worked in Hollywood for years. I know whereof I speak … lol.

  101. Janes

    Cuban I hope the military will retaliate on you! It’s great Hollyweird that hates America while in Europe in a 5 star hotel, hm, screw you, good part no one but ultra leftist surrender monkeys like Reid Pelosi care about your crap. With only 3% aproval of congress on the war America will reject you as they have Mike the Blob Moore communist rant about Cuban healthcare and the entire Demoncrap party! To Depalma no one with watch your movies anymore except leftists, the country has had it on military bashing! :sad: :twisted: :evil: :mad:

  102. rk

    Talk about Hypocrisy at its WORST! At least Moore actually believes his own idiocy! DePalma is just the typical liberal hypocrite who hates America and Capitalism etc and here he is exploiting capitalism for buck! “Ive really got a story here”. And as for Cuban. He’s just another man gone mad over money and fame. I hope he “pays” at the ticket counter and Depalma at the box office!

    How DARE these people make a buck off the horrible incident of that child and I’m getting so tired and disgusted with people doing it at the expense of the HONORABLE men and women SAVING THEIR ASSES from the horrors of the medieval freakshows in the middle east!

    By God if they truly feel the pain and suffering of the innocents in the middle east, they they can take their butts and their/YOUR money over their, set up camp and HELP THEM instead of hanging around here in your filthy displays of wealth slandering HONORABLE people who would DIE for them!!!

    It is people like DePalma and Cuban and the like that make me feel sometimes like all that is good and honorable and Holy is lost!!!

  103. NavVet

    http://www.matchdoctor.com/profile_Yogibard.html

  104. Rob

    How to break a Billionaire?

    Start a run on his portfolio.

  105. get a grip on reality

    you guys are all brainwashed idiots…
    get ur facts straight, know what’s up and then open ur cake holes.

  106. Jerome Kruse

    This is a great film.

    George Bush and his cronies have killed more civilians in Iraq than all the anti-state terrorists have killed since the history of time.

    When is the “war on terror” going to be over? How will we be able to tell when we have achieved victory?

    How many of our boys are going to be killed to support a war based on a humongous lie?

    We didn’t mind Saddam killing his own people for 20 years. We even supplied him with tons of guns and ammo.

    God bless our troops…..BRING THEM HOME NOW!

  107. rk

    get a grip..

    you mean “your” reality dont you?!

  108. drillanwr

    This quote from a review of the movie proves what I have been trying to get across in the last few days here and over at NB’s about DePalma trying to make this movie into something way more than what it is … a fictionalized account … And NO … Sean Penn isn’t in it … NO actors who are well known. (As I stated over at NB this was done in the HBO series Band Of Brothers in order to not distract from the story by having a well known face playing a real life person the writers and producers and directors wanted you to feel was real and understand.) Well known faces take away from the “story” … Given the review quote below, and the use of lesser recognizable faces gives the movie the feel of some sick surveillance video of the actual event. Call me a paranoid hack, but COME ON!!! I think the bulk of us here, backed by Dollard’s experience with Hollywood, know exactly what this movie is and why it was made.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/awards_festivals/cannes/reviews/article_display.jsp?&rid=9704

    “Made so expertly that it appears to be assembled from genuine footage …”

  109. Ed

    “George Bush and his cronies have killed more civilians in Iraq than all the anti-state terrorists have killed since the history of time.”

    Here we go again — another outlandish, meta-hyperbolic lefty untruth.

    When you write bilge like this, nothing else that comes off your keyboard has any credibility whatsoever.

  110. drillanwr

    Jerome -

  111. WatcherWTF

    Steve-O:

    As the old saying goes, “A suspicious mind is a guilty conscience”. DePalma believes that the troops act like animals and rapists, because he believes that that is how he would act.
    Anybody see his last few movies, or read the reviews? He was a laughingstock long before this film. DePalma is the lowest of scum, a man willing to pick the pockets of dead American soldiers if that’s what it takes to revive his long-dead career. A coward who never served, dares now to stand on the shoulders of giants.

  112. drillanwr

    Jerome -

    Durka … Durka …

  113. Doctor D

    Rope. Tree. 2 horses. Cuban. De Palma.
    Some assembly required.

  114. Steve

    Hey Jerome, how about I buy you a little port hole for your navel so you can see where you’re goin’ while you’ve got your head up your ass. The war is going to take a long time, the president has said that since day one. You don’t support the troops if you don’t support the mission. When you’ve got rats you have to clean them all out or the rats keep coming. I saw Viet Nam and Desert Storm, I wish I were younger so I could get involved in this too, but I can’t. I have to feel secure in knowing there are brave men and women out there more than likely your age, that have the guts and fortitude to heed their country’s call and fight for freedom. Even some other guy’s freedom. And BTW, hey DePalma and Cuban, how about a film about how those rat faced ragheads blow up little kids and churches? That would be unsettling too, I would think.

  115. Mike in Dallas

    Well, looks like Pat hit the big time now, drudge put a link out on this story.

    As a citizen of Texas, may I just say that Mark Cuban is a fool and looks like Moe from the three stooges and by his actions he has proven that the likness is more than just physical. What an ass. The Mav players also were against our troops and talked major shit about it at the beginning. It was on all the local news channels. I wish some conservative rich guys would start backing pro America movies to battle the commie pukes.

  116. Tom In Texas

    Mark Cuban is a man who confused luck for ability. Mark Cuban got wealthy when he sold his company to Yahoo for 3 Billion dollars. His was not the only company doing what his was doing, but his was the one that Yahoo purchased.

    Somewhere along the line, Mr. Cuban has gotten the idea that his delusional fantasies are somehow rooted in fact. This, along with 3 billion dollars makes him an expert.

    If I had 3 billion dollars, there would be people willing to believe in my delusional fantasies as well, no matter what they were.

  117. sullly

    jerome:
    “When is the “war on terror” going to be over?”

    When the ‘terror’ists and their sponsors will be dead.

    “How will we be able to tell when we have achieved victory?”

    Uh… the ‘terror’ists and their sponsors will be dead.

    “God bless our troops…..BRING THEM HOME NOW!”

    Hey, here’s a thought… go enlist yourself.
    Y’know… help out.

  118. FS

    Mark Cuban is a pathetic loser and a disgrace to Texas. He should be quartered with a dull knife and fed to the hogs.

  119. Dan (The Infidel)

    “George Bush and his cronies have killed more civilians in Iraq than all the anti-state terrorists have killed since the history of time.” You obviously, haven’t any clue as to what you’re talking about.

    It is the terrorist that have killed more civilians than anyone else. That’s true in Afghanistan, Iraq, and any other hotspot in the mideast.

    Save your blather for the DailyKos, because you have no cred here.

  120. "Redacted" stuns Venice - Page 6 - Hardcore Politics

    […] the "studio executives" angle to this, and we now CLEARLY see this isn’t about money… The Man Behind The De Palma Smear: Mark Cuban Declares War On The Troops […]

  121. Dan Lovett

    Interesting isn’t it, that Dan Rather is most likely also a part of this crap, since he works for Cuban these days.

  122. NBA Team Owner Mark Cuban =Troop Hating PUNK! : 186kpersecond.com

    […] Pat Dollard | Young Americans - The Man Behind The De Palma Smear: Mark Cuban Declares War On The Tr… Billionaire Mark Cuban has decided to put all of his weight behind a campaign to smear US troops in Iraq as “monsters’. Cuban has decided that De Palma’s film “Redacted” must be seen as the cornerstone of his and De Palma’s self-declared anti-victory campaign against America and her troops fighing in Iraq. […]

  123. Mavs fan

    I am from Dallas and I am deeply upset that Cuban is choosing to smear the US troops. I’d rather the Mavs not win an NBA title, because I don’t like Cuban anymore

  124. Peter Courtenay Stephens

    The easy response to this is to make sure that the Dallas Mavericks have no one at their games. Any one attending a Dallas Mavericks game is a traitor to this country and to our troops. Boycott the Dallas Mavericks and put pain in mark cuban’s pocketbook. I represent a Dallas Company and I will let them know that I will take my business elsewhere if they do not boycott the Dallas Mavericks.
    There is one other thing about people like mark cuban. They hide from any personnel contact with the general population. You can bet one thing that mark cuban is a coward. He will not go anywhere without several body guards and or where he might have to answer for his treason and dishonesty on a one on one basis.

  125. 186

    Another GREAT post Mr. Dollard! :beer: :!:

    Also people… Mr. Cuban is the founder and owner of the web and blog search engine Icerocket.com, just thought you’d like to know.

    I am looking froward to your film!

  126. drillanwr

    An update on Katie Couric in Iraq. Cripes! These LMSM “people” make this so easy … What a shitty bitch:

    Video: Couric Says Military ‘Wants’ Her To See Only Good

    http://ianschwartz.com/2007/09/02/video-couric-says-military-wants-her-to-see-only-good/

  127. MisterP

    FWIW - nobody at Magnolia can stand the arrogant prick.

  128. Ben

    Could anyone give me a list of the companys this asshole owns. I just want to be sure I don’t support this Jerks needs. I want to inform my freinds to be sure they don’t support this crap. Please don’t have his private jet land in Indiana, I need a place too piss.

  129. Fight4TheRight

    OT

    Since the busload of tinfoilers has showed up here and they apparently all have their moonbat costumes on, check out how the NEW YORK TIMES asks: Is It Time to End The Tributes to 9/11 ?

    Disgusting.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/02/nyregion/02fatigue.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5090&en=34a1b8a7be442d53&ex=1346385600&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

  130. pmoshay

    Cuban is a stupid JOCK, fundamentally.

  131. EdinTampa

    If they wanted this type of gore, De Palma & Cuban could have easily done the movie of the two freaks (ex-convicts) that raped & burned to death a Mom & her 2 daughters ALIVE in an attempt to get rid of their DNA.

    Or a series for HBO on the MURDER CAPITAL NEW ORLEANS LOUISANA…

    Instead they chose to attack Military with a broad brush like this, WHILE THEY ARE IN COMBAT. This is what makes them seditionists and/or treasonists.

  132. Luther

    Texans should be ashamed to have this looser associated with them………..time to stop going to the Maverick games. He is a true puss-bag. Nice comb over dick-wad

  133. dk

    mark cuban’s the guy who gave dan rather a job after CBS had to sack him for his “creative reportage”. he owns HDNet; made his fortune in the dotcom runup and sold high and bought the Mavericks. He graduated from one of the most conservative suburbs of Pittsburgh — Mt Lebanon is one of the top public schools in PA; he thwn left town and made his fortune.

  134. Rob

    I just wish we had finished the job when I was in the AOR the first time.

    What one person may see as a failure, others see as a strategy. Rather than cross borders to cull the Jihadis out of the surrounding countries, we wait for them to meet Allah in Iraq. As they show their heads, they are dispatched. This is a war of attrition that will take decades more to finish and one me must stay the course to win.

    The alternatives are too horrendous to imagine as our way of life will eventually disappear if the Jihad against the West is successful.

  135. Dave Rice

    Quite possibly worse than Michael Moore. I have never read such moronic statements by an anti in my life. It seems we are all to be saved by the likes of a self-loathing jew and an old, dishonest cowardly anti. (He made the argument that the ones who started this war never served in nam so the mistakes there had to be revisited. I wonder where he was during nam and today. I would suspect not in nam and certainly not in Iraq) Funny the hate comments I get are from anti semetic scum. You would think Cuban would wake from his doldrums and stop marching, eyes averted, toward the ovens. What an ahole.

  136. Fight4TheRight

    Time to hit Mark Cuban in the pocketbook and in the ego.

    I’m sure the following sponsors of the Dallas Mavericks (listed on the official Mavericks site) would love to hear how everyone feels about Mark Cuban’s treason:

    7- Eleven www. 7-eleven.com

    American Limos & Transportation www.americanlimos.net

    Guaranty Bank www.guarantybank.com

    Hilton Anatole - Dallas www.anatole.hilton.com

    Planet Tan www.planettan.com

    And also, Mark Cuban is scheduled to be a celebrity contestant on ABC’s “Dancing with the Stars” this Fall. ABC and Disney may wish to know your feelings:

    www.abc.com

    www.disney.com

  137. Dave

    Americans sell your Mavericks tickets.

  138. Rob

    “pmoshay

    Cuban is a stupid JOCK, fundamentally.”

    Jock Strap maybe?

  139. FS

    Cuban looks so alone in that photo without the Larry and Curly at his side. What an incredible Moe look-alike!

  140. Bruce handler

    They both should be tried and shot. How about a film portraying our enemies? You know, gassing their own people, blowing themselves up, attacking civilians and less not forget the beheadings. Now that I vented, let’s all boycott whatever they do and expose them
    as the true garbage they are… flush them to hell.