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	<title>Comments on: Baltimore 9 Question: Is Calling Someone A &#8220;White Cracker&#8221; A Racist Remark?</title>
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		<title>By: Egfrow</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79387</link>
		<author>Egfrow</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Crackers are white. Well, Ritz crackers are brown but most are white. I never met any White Mother Fuckers yet but then again I don't know what goes on behind some of my friend's closed doors with their mothers.

I've read that she has had this 'boyfriend' for about 10 years. In light of the beating she took and he didn't and the fact that they were both homeless I assume he is absolutely worthless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crackers are white. Well, Ritz crackers are brown but most are white. I never met any White Mother Fuckers yet but then again I don&#8217;t know what goes on behind some of my friend&#8217;s closed doors with their mothers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read that she has had this &#8216;boyfriend&#8217; for about 10 years. In light of the beating she took and he didn&#8217;t and the fact that they were both homeless I assume he is absolutely worthless.</p>
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		<title>By: CJWarner</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79391</link>
		<author>CJWarner</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I consider "cracker" a racist term when used by someone toward me when they are not a "cracker".  I can call my own a "cracker" without being racist.  But those who are not "crackers" dare not use the term to call others not in their group a "cracker".  If one does so, it's on.   :twisted:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider &#8220;cracker&#8221; a racist term when used by someone toward me when they are not a &#8220;cracker&#8221;.  I can call my own a &#8220;cracker&#8221; without being racist.  But those who are not &#8220;crackers&#8221; dare not use the term to call others not in their group a &#8220;cracker&#8221;.  If one does so, it&#8217;s on.   <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ticticboom</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79394</link>
		<author>ticticboom</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79394</guid>
					<description>I think the hate crime laws are full of shit. You can't outlaw an emotion, and sometimes hate is justified.

But, if you're going to impose harsher penalties when the victim and perp have different races/genders/sexual orientation, you have to apply it across the board. There should be no such thing as a protected class. Start applying the rules differently based on an accident of birth, and society will break down into competing tribes, just like most of the planet.

The work of a hundred generations can be undone by the stupidity of one.

I treat everyone the same: like shit. :twisted:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the hate crime laws are full of shit. You can&#8217;t outlaw an emotion, and sometimes hate is justified.</p>
<p>But, if you&#8217;re going to impose harsher penalties when the victim and perp have different races/genders/sexual orientation, you have to apply it across the board. There should be no such thing as a protected class. Start applying the rules differently based on an accident of birth, and society will break down into competing tribes, just like most of the planet.</p>
<p>The work of a hundred generations can be undone by the stupidity of one.</p>
<p>I treat everyone the same: like shit. <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: TJ (The kafir)</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79396</link>
		<author>TJ (The kafir)</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>egfrow,

Just so you know i asked a black friend, who is incidentally from baltimore and and knows the bus in question to be a very dangerous bus, what the term cracker refers to and i was surprised that it doesnt refer to saltines. He said it refers to slave traders who used to "crack" whips at the slaves. 

either way it is meant to paint white people as slave masters, is demeaning and derogatory and should be categorized as race baiting. this is obviously a hatecrime, but because they are juveniles the pc croud and jesse jackson et al will likely defend these kids as the by product of a racist society that have led them to hate their slave masters: in othe words, its not their fault.   :oops:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>egfrow,</p>
<p>Just so you know i asked a black friend, who is incidentally from baltimore and and knows the bus in question to be a very dangerous bus, what the term cracker refers to and i was surprised that it doesnt refer to saltines. He said it refers to slave traders who used to &#8220;crack&#8221; whips at the slaves. </p>
<p>either way it is meant to paint white people as slave masters, is demeaning and derogatory and should be categorized as race baiting. this is obviously a hatecrime, but because they are juveniles the pc croud and jesse jackson et al will likely defend these kids as the by product of a racist society that have led them to hate their slave masters: in othe words, its not their fault.   <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif' alt=':oops:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: 0311inOHio</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79405</link>
		<author>0311inOHio</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79405</guid>
					<description>Cracker is a word just like nigger.  Big fucking deal.  It amazes me how some people let other people control them.  Kind of tells me how insecure they are. 

Here's to ya..  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cracker is a word just like nigger.  Big fucking deal.  It amazes me how some people let other people control them.  Kind of tells me how insecure they are. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s to ya..  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Trindam</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79421</link>
		<author>Trindam</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79421</guid>
					<description>Hmm, let me see now, if a group of white kids were doing this and yelling at a person that was not white thier perceived skin color and a known racially derogatory term it would most certainly be seen as a hate crime and blasted all over the main stream media.

So should it be viewed the same way?  Most definately.  Racism is racism and should be seen and treated as such no matter which race the victim is.

Will it happen this way?  Most likely not.  Who knows, perhaps we don't push as hard as others in cases like this.

Forgive us if we do not go breaking out building windows and destroying everything in sight when something such as this does not go how it should.

However I am also glad that we do not.  One day hopefully nobody will throw temper tantrums like that and we can all be civilized people.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, let me see now, if a group of white kids were doing this and yelling at a person that was not white thier perceived skin color and a known racially derogatory term it would most certainly be seen as a hate crime and blasted all over the main stream media.</p>
<p>So should it be viewed the same way?  Most definately.  Racism is racism and should be seen and treated as such no matter which race the victim is.</p>
<p>Will it happen this way?  Most likely not.  Who knows, perhaps we don&#8217;t push as hard as others in cases like this.</p>
<p>Forgive us if we do not go breaking out building windows and destroying everything in sight when something such as this does not go how it should.</p>
<p>However I am also glad that we do not.  One day hopefully nobody will throw temper tantrums like that and we can all be civilized people.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79423</link>
		<author>brian</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79423</guid>
					<description>if im not mistaken, isnt just about any senseless beating like that a hate crime regardless of who is committing it. even black on black, or white on white, cause i cant think of an incident where someone beats the crap out of someone cause they like them. 

for the record i too believe that hate crimes are stupid. but since we have them, it should be considered in this case. if it isnt then i guess that blacks feel that they need special rights to protect themselves cause they dont feel equal to the whites.

and has anyone heard from sharpton or jackson on this? i actually consider them some of the biggest racists in this country. :beer:  :beer:  :beer:  :beer:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if im not mistaken, isnt just about any senseless beating like that a hate crime regardless of who is committing it. even black on black, or white on white, cause i cant think of an incident where someone beats the crap out of someone cause they like them. </p>
<p>for the record i too believe that hate crimes are stupid. but since we have them, it should be considered in this case. if it isnt then i guess that blacks feel that they need special rights to protect themselves cause they dont feel equal to the whites.</p>
<p>and has anyone heard from sharpton or jackson on this? i actually consider them some of the biggest racists in this country. <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_beer.gif' alt=':beer:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Big</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79446</link>
		<author>Big</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 02:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79446</guid>
					<description>Calling someone a "white cracker" is not only just as racist as calling someone a nigger, it is also redundant.  I don't think there is anything wrong with a person being deeply offended when either of those terms is used, but the "We can say it, but you can't" attitude is total bullshit.  Can't have your cake and eat it, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling someone a &#8220;white cracker&#8221; is not only just as racist as calling someone a nigger, it is also redundant.  I don&#8217;t think there is anything wrong with a person being deeply offended when either of those terms is used, but the &#8220;We can say it, but you can&#8217;t&#8221; attitude is total bullshit.  Can&#8217;t have your cake and eat it, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Howie</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79513</link>
		<author>Howie</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 06:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sharpton is in Chicago this week threatening to make a big stink to the International Olympic Committee if police brutality is not taken care of this week.  

Guess I'm glad we have brutal cops instead of brutal Jr. High kids!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharpton is in Chicago this week threatening to make a big stink to the International Olympic Committee if police brutality is not taken care of this week.  </p>
<p>Guess I&#8217;m glad we have brutal cops instead of brutal Jr. High kids!!</p>
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		<title>By: John Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79521</link>
		<author>John Cunningham</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79521</guid>
					<description>Every once in a while this happens in Philadelphia.  It's called "wilding" or "wolf packing".  The latest was about two years ago through a nicer part of Philadelphia called Chestnut Hill.  They would attack mentally challenged and elderly.  One act of boldness was when back in the 80s a school on Broad Street would let out.  They'd get on the Broad Street Subway and between stops go from car to car en masse robbing everyone on the train and then disappear in twenty different directions when the train arrived at the next stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every once in a while this happens in Philadelphia.  It&#8217;s called &#8220;wilding&#8221; or &#8220;wolf packing&#8221;.  The latest was about two years ago through a nicer part of Philadelphia called Chestnut Hill.  They would attack mentally challenged and elderly.  One act of boldness was when back in the 80s a school on Broad Street would let out.  They&#8217;d get on the Broad Street Subway and between stops go from car to car en masse robbing everyone on the train and then disappear in twenty different directions when the train arrived at the next stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob USMC</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79574</link>
		<author>Bob USMC</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Bash, this isn't the only racial hate crime that's been buzzing the headlines in Baltimore, and it's not even the worst one by far, although it could have been much worse for the lady on the bus.   

Four teenage black youths (16, 17, 18, 19 years old) beat Zachary Sowers, a 28 year old white man into a coma last June.  There was a sentence handed down in that case yesterday where one of the attackers got 40 years.  The idiot kid stomped the man into a coma after he was down and out.  Sowers remains in a coma after he was beaten just steps away from his Patterson Park home by Trayvon Ramos.  


Youth beat city man into a coma; sentence angers the victim's family:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-md.ci.sowers11dec11,0,2131975.story  

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-sowers,0,4168313.storygallery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bash, this isn&#8217;t the only racial hate crime that&#8217;s been buzzing the headlines in Baltimore, and it&#8217;s not even the worst one by far, although it could have been much worse for the lady on the bus.   </p>
<p>Four teenage black youths (16, 17, 18, 19 years old) beat Zachary Sowers, a 28 year old white man into a coma last June.  There was a sentence handed down in that case yesterday where one of the attackers got 40 years.  The idiot kid stomped the man into a coma after he was down and out.  Sowers remains in a coma after he was beaten just steps away from his Patterson Park home by Trayvon Ramos.  </p>
<p>Youth beat city man into a coma; sentence angers the victim&#8217;s family:<br />
<a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-md.ci.sowers11dec11,0,2131975.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-md.ci.sowers11dec11,0,2131975.story</a>  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-sowers,0,4168313.storygallery" rel="nofollow">http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-sowers,0,4168313.storygallery</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob USMC</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79576</link>
		<author>Bob USMC</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Also Bash, here's the website for Zach Sowers with updates and stuff.

http://www.zachsowers.com/


Here's a small sample of Baltimore's violence:
http://citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=14698

Ain't multi-culturalism grand? :evil:  Thank you liberals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Bash, here&#8217;s the website for Zach Sowers with updates and stuff.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.zachsowers.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zachsowers.com/</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a small sample of Baltimore&#8217;s violence:<br />
<a href="http://citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=14698" rel="nofollow">http://citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=14698</a></p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t multi-culturalism grand? <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' />  Thank you liberals!</p>
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		<title>By: 0311inOHio</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79613</link>
		<author>0311inOHio</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79613</guid>
					<description>After reading the link that Bob USMC posted and realizing that you could probably multiply that by at least 15....hmmmm.  And there is great concern about the violence in Iraq and so called bench marks are not being made???   :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the link that Bob USMC posted and realizing that you could probably multiply that by at least 15&#8230;.hmmmm.  And there is great concern about the violence in Iraq and so called bench marks are not being made???   <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Caligula</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79631</link>
		<author>Caligula</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79631</guid>
					<description>apparently only the wealthy white folk can be racist - according to the liberals - because they have the power to oppress...  everything else is just mild bigotry

why don't jackson and sharpton (i won't give them the respect of a capital letter, but i will capitalize Shit) speak out about this?  oh!! that's right because black people CANT be racist against http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif
:evil:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apparently only the wealthy white folk can be racist - according to the liberals - because they have the power to oppress&#8230;  everything else is just mild bigotry</p>
<p>why don&#8217;t jackson and sharpton (i won&#8217;t give them the respect of a capital letter, but i will capitalize Shit) speak out about this?  oh!! that&#8217;s right because black people CANT be racist against <a href="http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif" rel="nofollow">http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif</a> <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: SlimReed</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79687</link>
		<author>SlimReed</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://patdollard.com/2007/12/baltimore-9-question-is-calling-someone-a-white-cracker-a-racist-remark/#comment-79687</guid>
					<description>A point of information:

The term "cracker" did not originate with the "cracking" of overseers' whips.  It came from the process of the cracking corn as a means of preserving it and for creating beer for 'shine by the second wave of Scots-Irish who had no land to take but the remote mountain land of the Appalachians in the 18th and early 19th centuries.  Poor whites of the hills were referred to as "crackers," as opposed to the "white trash" of the more settled areas of the south.  To be called a cracker was to be deemed poor and ignorant.  For more on this, I recommend the book, "Our Southern Highlanders," a sociological history of the region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A point of information:</p>
<p>The term &#8220;cracker&#8221; did not originate with the &#8220;cracking&#8221; of overseers&#8217; whips.  It came from the process of the cracking corn as a means of preserving it and for creating beer for &#8217;shine by the second wave of Scots-Irish who had no land to take but the remote mountain land of the Appalachians in the 18th and early 19th centuries.  Poor whites of the hills were referred to as &#8220;crackers,&#8221; as opposed to the &#8220;white trash&#8221; of the more settled areas of the south.  To be called a cracker was to be deemed poor and ignorant.  For more on this, I recommend the book, &#8220;Our Southern Highlanders,&#8221; a sociological history of the region.</p>
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