Danes To Jihadis: “Bite Me…Here’s Another Run On Mohammed Cartoons”
Yeah…the Danes got more than good pastries…
Besides…I read somewhere today that if these people want to riot and murder because of a cartoon, they have more problems than simple idolatriphobia.
Hey, is that a word? If not, let it be known that Bash has coined the term:
“Idolatriphobia”…fear of Idolatry, manifested in extreme religious groups, usually confined to Islam aka “Moose-lums”, in the form of murdering anyone who would form, sculpt, draw, color, paint, or reproduce any likeness of the pedophile who started their false religion.
COPENHAGEN, Denmark – Denmark’s leading newspapers reprinted a caricature of the Prophet Muhammad today that triggered rioting in Muslim countries two years ago.
The newspapers said they republished the cartoon to show their firm commitment to freedom of speech after the arrest Tuesday of three people accused of plotting to kill the man who drew the cartoon depicting the prophet wearing a turban shaped like a bomb with a lit fuse.
The drawing by Kurt Westergaard and 11 other cartoons depicting Muhammad enraged Muslims when they appeared in a range of Western newspapers in early 2006.
Islamic law generally opposes any depiction of the prophet, even a favorable one, for fear it could lead to idolatry.
The Jyllands-Posten newspaper, which first published the drawings on Sept. 30, 2005, reprinted Westergaard’s cartoon in its paper edition Wednesday. Several other major dailies, including Politiken and Berlingske Tidende, also reprinted the drawing.
“We are doing this to document what is at stake in this case, and to unambiguously back and support the freedom of speech that we as a newspaper will always defend,” said the Copenhagen-based Berlingske Tidende.
Tabloid Ekstra Bladet reprinted all 12 drawings.
At least three European newspapers – in Sweden, the Netherlands and Spain – also reprinted the cartoon as part of their coverage of the Danish arrests.
Intelligence police arrested two Tunisians and a Danish citizen of Moroccan origin in western Denmark on Tuesday for allegedly plotting to kill Westergaard.
The Danish suspect was released Tuesday after questioning, his lawyer Henning Lyngsbo said.
“He has no knowledge about the case,” Lyngsbo told The Associated Press. “It doesn’t seem that the evidence is very strong.”
Intelligence service chief Jakob Scharf had indicated the man would be released, but could still face charges of violating a Danish terror law. The two Tunisians would be expelled from Denmark because they were considered threats to national security, Scharf said.
Danish Muslim leaders condemned the alleged murder plot, but also said reprinting Westergaard’s cartoon was the wrong way to protest.
“There could have been other ways to do it without the drawing, which I personally do not like,” Abdul Wahid Petersen, a moderate imam, told The Associated Press.
Imam Mostafa Chendid, the leader of the Islamic Faith Community, said his group was considering staging a rally in front of Parliament. The Copenhagen-based group spearheaded protests against the cartoons in 2006.
“We are so unhappy about the cartoon being reprinted,” Chendid told the AP. “No blood was ever shed in Denmark because of this, and no blood will be shed. We are trying to calm down people, but let’s see what happens. Let’s open a dialogue.”
Massive protests swept the Muslim world in early 2006 after publication of the cartoons. Danes watched in disbelief as angry mobs burned the Danish flag and attacked the country’s embassies in Muslim countries including Syria, Iran and Lebanon. Danish products were boycotted in several Muslim countries.
The Danish Foreign Ministry said its diplomatic missions worldwide were monitoring for any unrest related to the cartoon.
“We have no information about events or reactions that leads us to change our security assessment for Danish citizens,” said Uffe Wolffhechel of the ministry’s consular department.
(AP)
Be respectful of others and their opinions. Inflammatory remarks and inane leftist drivel will be deleted. It ain’t about free speech, remember you’re in a private domain. My website, my prerogative.
If you can't handle using your real email address, don't bother posting a comment.
BRAVO!
February 13th, 2008 at 4:27 pmDanish Muslim leaders condemned the alleged murder plot, but also said reprinting Westergaard’s cartoon was the wrong way to protest.”
me: Ever heard of freedom of speech assholes?
“There could have been other ways to do it without the drawing, which I personally do not like,” Abdul Wahid Petersen, a moderate imam, told The Associated Press.
Me: That’s tough. Your objection is that it is OK to mess with Christians and Jews, but Mooselems are off limits…is that it?
“Imam Mostafa Chendid, the leader of the Islamic Faith Community, said his group was considering staging a rally in front of Parliament. The Copenhagen-based group spearheaded protests against the cartoons in 2006.”
Me: Faith? Faith in what? To get to paradise by slaying and being slayed in jihad?
“We are so unhappy about the cartoon being reprinted,” Chendid told the AP. “No blood was ever shed in Denmark because of this, and no blood will be shed. We are trying to calm down people, but let’s see what happens. Let’s open a dialogue.”
me: His kind of dialogue: Submit, convert or die. My dialogue with him: Fuck you. Free speech rules. Gotta problem with that dickhead? Then leave.
Addendum:
Islam itself — what is in the Qur’an, the Hadith, the Sira — is what makes Islam the problem. That, and the tenets that naturally arise from those texts, and that, over 1350 years, in many different lands, with many different sets of non-Muslims, have been acted on, by Muslim conquerors determined to kill, or convert, or permanently reduce to that subjugated status of “dhimmi” all those conquered non-Muslims.
If we ignore history, and ignore the texts of Islam, then we can all play the game of “Let’s Pretend.” But playing the game of “Let’s Pretend” is what has gotten the countries of Western Europe in the fix they are in. Playing “Let’s Pretend” simply allows non-Muslims to continue to ignore reality, continue to turn their heads away, as people in the last century, and more than once, turned their heads away until the reality could not be denied. ”
Glad to see the Danes are getting tired of the “Let’s Pretend” game.
February 13th, 2008 at 4:36 pm“Let’s Pretend”
Hey Dan, Isn’t that Hussein’s campaign slogan?
February 13th, 2008 at 4:45 pm‘considering staging a rally in front of Parliament’
A wonderful oppourtunity to round your asses up for immediate deportation!
“Let’s open a dialogue.”
I got your dialogue swing’n!
February 13th, 2008 at 4:46 pmJihadis of the world rise up, that we may more easily mow you down.
February 13th, 2008 at 4:56 pm“It’s springtime for Mohammed in Denmark!”
Don’t be a dummy, be a smarty…come and join the Kaffir party!
Every single paper and web site in the west should run these pictures DAILY! That’ll give the raghead logistics department something to cry about.
Good for Denmark for giving the finger to terrorists. Let’s all do the same.
February 13th, 2008 at 5:14 pm@Phil
Oh you mean Obamination don’t you? Why yes it is.
February 13th, 2008 at 6:51 pmMuslims are a plague upon society.
Bomb Islam.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:01 pmIf Islamic law generally opposes any form of depiction of the (false)prophet for fear of it leading to idolatry,then these are some weak-assed mf’ers. How many times do christians see plenty of depictions of Jesus, but does’nt have one iota of idolatry associated with it. Lot’s of reverence,but not idolatry. fooking losers.
February 13th, 2008 at 9:04 pmbravo again
February 13th, 2008 at 9:05 pmStatements like the following make you as bad as them. No excuses.
ticticboom
“Jihadis of the world rise up, that we may more easily mow you down.”
Bucky
February 14th, 2008 at 3:19 am“Muslims are a plague upon society. Bomb Islam.”
@London Fog (apologist for Islamofacism)
Islam IS the problem slick. Unlike you, the rest of us here aren’t stuck in that Orientalist fog that you are in.
On most campuses today any examination of matters Islamic that is even remotely critical is shouted down and labeled bigotry and “hate speech.
You are a devotee of such idiots.
“Islam itself — what is in the Qur’an, the Hadith, the Sira — is what makes Islam the problem. That, and the tenets that naturally arise from those texts, and that, over 1350 years, in many different lands, with many different sets of non-Muslims, have been acted on, by Muslim conquerors determined to kill, or convert, or permanently reduce to that subjugated status of “dhimmi” all those conquered non-Muslims.
If we ignore history, and ignore the texts of Islam, then we can all play the game of “Let’s Pretend.” But playing the game of “Let’s Pretend” is what has gotten the countries of Western Europe in the fix they are in. Playing “Let’s Pretend” simply allows non-Muslims to continue to ignore reality, continue to turn their heads away, as people in the last century, and more than once, turned their heads away until the reality could not be denied. ”
“Islamic law calls for the subjugation of Jews, Christians, and others deemed “People of the Book” under the rule of Islam. This idea is based on a cluster of Qur’anic verses that contain general and open-ended commands to fight unbelievers. Among the Qur’an’s commands to fight unbelievers are these:
“O ye who believe! Fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him” (9:123).
“O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell, an evil refuge indeed” (9:73). The Arabic word translated here as “strive hard” is jahidi, a verbal form of the noun jihad.
The command applies first to fighting those who worship other gods besides Allah: “Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful” (9:5).
However, Muslims must fight Jews and Christians as well, although the Qur’an recognizes that as “People of the Book” they have received genuine revelations from Allah: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya [the special tax on non-Muslims] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).
That verse is the one place where Muslims are directed explicitly to make war against and subjugate Jews and Christians – the “People of the Book,” who according to traditional Islamic theology once subjugated enter the dhimma, the protection of the Muslims, and become dhimmis, protected (or guilty) people. The noted Qur’an commentator Ibn Juzayy says that Qur’an 9:29 is “a command to fight the People of the Book.” Another respected mainstream Qur’an commentary, the Tafsir al-Jalalayn says that when 9:29 says that Muslims must fight against those who “follow not the Religion of Truth,” it means those who do not follow Islam, “which is firm and abrogates other deens [religions].”
Qur’an 9:29 also mandates that Jews and Christians pay the jizya, the poll tax. The classical Islamic scholar As-Sawi specifies that the payment of the jizya signifies that the non-Muslims are “humble and obedient to the judgements of Islam.” The verse also specifies that the non-Muslims “feel themselves subdued,” or assume a “state of abasement.” The Bedouin commander al-Mughira bin Sa’d spelled this out when he met the Persian Rustam. Said al-Mughira: “I call you to Islam or else you must pay the jizya while you are in a state of abasement.”
Rustam replied, “I know what jizya means, but what does ‘a state of abasement’ mean?” Al-Mughira explained: “You pay it while you are standing and I am sitting and the whip hanging is over your head.”
Are you standing London? Then pay your jizya Dhimi. The rest of us in here would rather fight the Infidel apostates of Baal.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:04 amJust ask Cindy Sheehan and her ilk if they would like to have to wear a burka all day and have no rights, just for a week. You will get no takers.
Oh sure, fascism isn’t so bad you Poles… Adolf Hitler
I’ve got this really great social experiment… Pol Pot
Yeah, libfags, it’s nice to be on the ‘winning’ side until you actually have to swallow the bitter pill.
February 14th, 2008 at 5:26 amDan,
What are you saying here then …
Statements in the Koran like “slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush” are really bad, but statements like “Muslims are a plague upon society. Bomb Islam.” are perfectly ok? How about addressing my points directly for once, rather than pontificating from a pre-rehearsed script.
I could quote you reams and reams of similar blood, guts and vengeance from the Old Testament. Does that mean we should fear Christianity? Of course not!!
Your problem, our problem, is terrorism not Islam. Here’s a relevant re-post of another point you failed to answer.
“For instance, the 7/7 London bombers sited the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as a motivation. The failed 21/7 London bombers - who also sited Afghanistan and Iraq - were not exactly fired up with fervour for Islamic fundamentalism as they all backtracked completely and tried to get off in their trials, saying it was just a stunt, they didn’t intend to hurt anyone. More likely they were just small men who wanted the fame of martyrdom like one of those idiots who goes on a shooting spree in a shopping mall. The Islam connection is correlation and not causation, otherwise there would be 1.2 billion heavily armed people marching towards the west. “
February 14th, 2008 at 6:48 am@London Fog:
Dan,
What are you saying here then …
Statements in the Koran like “slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush” are really bad, but statements like “Muslims are a plague upon society. Bomb Islam.” are perfectly ok? How about addressing my points directly for once, rather than pontificating from a pre-rehearsed script.
me: Nice attempt at diversion and obfuscation London. If you read my post you got my points. None of them are rehearsed by the way. I do my homework well. Suggest you lose your Orientalist view of Islam and the West and come down off of your high horse.
“I could quote you reams and reams of similar blood, guts and vengeance from the Old Testament. Does that mean we should fear Christianity? Of course not!!”
me: By all means do so. I’m an expert on the topic. Give me your best shot. I love playing your moral/religious equivalency games.
“Your problem, our problem, is terrorism not Islam. Here’s a relevant re-post of another point you failed to answer.”
me: Oh I answered the question all right London. You just ignored my answer. Islam IS the problem. And I cited verse and chapter to back up my points.
“For instance, the 7/7 London bombers sited the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as a motivation. The failed 21/7 London bombers - who also sited Afghanistan and Iraq - were not exactly fired up with fervour for Islamic fundamentalism as they all backtracked completely and tried to get off in their trials, saying it was just a stunt, they didn’t intend to hurt anyone. More likely they were just small men who wanted the fame of martyrdom like one of those idiots who goes on a shooting spree in a shopping mall. The Islam connection is correlation and not causation, otherwise there would be 1.2 billion heavily armed people marching towards the west. “
me: Like all that excuses terrorism. Bull crap. You talk like the Muslim Brotherhood. They use the same excuses.
Lose the Orientalist rant. If you want to be an apologist for scum like the London Bombers, and interject Muslim Brotherhood nonsense into your rant, then you are a fool; and a tool.
February 14th, 2008 at 7:29 amDan,
Nice and slowly now …
If this statement is ok to say ““Muslims are a plague upon society. Bomb Islam.”
Why is the statement from the Koran not ok? “slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush”
Surely the good folk of planet earth should do neither!
February 14th, 2008 at 7:50 am@London Calling
Damn you are daft. Islam has given the west the choice to either submit, convert or die. Get it?
In jihad there is only two outcomes: Either we kick their asses or they kick ours.
No amount of sucking up to the Muslims is going to change their supremacist world-conquest agenda. They are Hitler.
And just like Hitler, they need to be crushed.
Maybe you got no stomach for this war, but the rest of us in here do. We intend to do exactly what Charles Martel did. Crush them.
The difference, dumbass is that they have given the West only the above three choices. I’m not buying into the Orientalist, Muslim Brotherhood propaganda. That shit is for naive westerners like you.
It isn’t what they say in public or private to westerners that means a damn thing. It is what they say to one another that is the real facts of the matter.
And what they say is that the jihad will go on until every knee bows to their moon-god and his false prophet. That is the objective of Islam as outlined in the Koran, Hadith and the Sira.
And we in here are saying: You’ll have to come through me first motherfuckers. You want death, we aim to oblige.
The comments you are whinning about come from alpha males who guard the herd of Dhimi sheep like you.
The difference between our comments and theirs is we aren’t interested in world conquest, just victory over the GWOT. And that victory will be paved with the dead and rotten bodies of jihadis everywhere. If that bothers you, go back to your hole and stay there. You have no place in here with men and women of valor.
February 14th, 2008 at 8:52 amPS @London Fog
Where’s those OT passages that you say you can quote? Or is that just another Orientalist dodge. on your part?
February 14th, 2008 at 8:55 amDan
“Where’s those OT passages that you say you can quote? Or is that just another Orientalist dodge. on your part?”
Let’s play “Spot the Difference”
The Koran - “slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush”
The Bible – “If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. - Deuteronomy 13
February 14th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
London Calling
February 14th, 2008 at 2:15 pmThat is a scripture about being true to the God of Israel and having no other God but him.
You are trying to say that the Bible and the Koran are the same, = , par to one another. They are not, one produces believers that are willing to lay their lives down to prevent evil and the other uses evil to instill belief. here’s an example of the later.
http://patdollard.com/2008/02/warning-graphic-vid-aq-mosul-resorting-to-desperate-measures/
To equate Jews or Christians to these barbarians shows a total lack of understanding or refusal to see, in either case you best not get involved or have an opinion.
Mark Tanberg
Hi. The passage is quite clear - “You must certainly put him to death.”
What I’m saying here is that you can find passages in the Bible and the Koran that you can use to justify killing non-believers. So, as Dan did in a earlier post, you therefore can’t use passages like this as proof that Islam is inherently evil.
Personally I believe that neither religion is evil. It is the individuals that commit terrorism who are evil.
February 14th, 2008 at 3:44 pmWhat you are doing is equating Judaism & Christianity with Islam and that won’t and does not fly. Jews do not practice that verse today and neither do Christians, anywhere.
However there are Muslims that carry out jihad as ordered in the Koran.
I know the history behind the origins of Islam and it is a man made religion by a deranged pedophile that ruled by intimidation and terror (do a little research on this your self) or look here to see inside islam
http://www.islam-watch.org/index.html this is by Muslims
My Christianity tells me I will know them by their fruit,
February 14th, 2008 at 6:11 pmIslams fruit is rotten and evil. Are there huge masses of unfortunate muslims who have no desire to wage jihad, yes Iraq and the world are full of them.
Do I agree with Dan? you bet I do, Our fight is against radical Islam, they must be stopped.
By the way if you are going to read the Bible, try saying this before you read, Lord show me who you are.
Mark Tanberg
Thank you for your thoughts on this. We are not as far apart as you might think.
Couple of things though :-
“Jews do not practice that verse today and neither do Christians, anywhere” - Yes, I take your point here. Jews and Christians have moved on, whereas some radical Muslims haven’t. The two quotes have a moral equivalence, but it’s how it is acted upon that counts, which is my point to Dan. He can’t use it to prove that Islam is evil.
“Do I agree with Dan? you bet I do, Our fight is against radical Islam, they must be stopped.” - I’m not convinced that you do agree with Dan. Dan is completely black and white, whereas your language is acknowledging the grey. In a previous post Dan said “Islam=Terrorist” where as you say “Our fight is against radical Islam”.
The main point that I’m trying to get across to him is actually the one you make “Are there huge masses of unfortunate Muslims who have no desire to wage jihad, yes Iraq and the world are full of them”. This is not his view, he says in one post …
“30% of all Muslims are jihadists.
30% Are potential jihadis.
30% Are sympathethic to the jihadis.
10% Are westernized Muslims. ”
This has all the hallmarks of made up statistics - nice even spread of percentages, no percentage at all for harmless, peace loving Muslims that you describe.
My view is that we should condemn, frustrate and if necessary fight with anybody that advocates, assists or pursues terrorism.
We also should be knocking at the door of anyone involved in subrogation of women or minorities as well as inhumane punishments like hand chopping and stoning. (Including China, Burma, North Korea etc …)
Bush, Brown and before him, Blair, are quite clear when they speak about this - this is a war on terror, not a war on Islam.
February 15th, 2008 at 9:17 amI do so hate the grey matter thing and believe that this is black and white. Being a student of photography I was taught a long time ago that in halftone or B&W pictures you will find they are made up of grey areas and that upon very close inspection, those grey areas are indeed black dots very close to white dots.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:12 pmMy fear for Iraq is that this effort may not take because we have not dealt with the foundation of the faith that their society is built upon. Islam is the worst foundation imaginable, it is fascist to the core promoting government run sharia law.
So the next step, IMO, needed is after securing peace our state department or gov. reps need to surge in and help set up a government (like ours) that ensures freedom.
A tall order in that our gov. is Christian based and therefore anti Islam. Also ironic is the fact that our gov. has been ridding itself of all things Christian for decades and is on the verge of electing a nobody that intends to leave Iraq to Iran and chaos just like what happened after Vietnam that resulted in the Cambodian killing fields.
IMO wisdom would dictate that Petraeus should be given a MacArthur like role and continue the good work for the next ten years. (that is if we truly do give a damn about humankind) - - - covered a lot of ground there