Group Of Third Graders Busted In Teacher’s Murder Plot
Pictured: Items seized from third grade kids that were plotting to murder their teacher.
Third graders? How in the world do third graders get the notion in their head, not only to conceive of premeditated murder, but actually begin to carry it out by bringing the weapons to school?
Good Lord…
WAYCROSS, GA — It’s the type of news you don’t expect to hear coming out of an elementary school.
Nine third grade students suspended at Center Elementary in Waycross for an alleged plot to attack their teacher.
“This plot was uncovered at the point that something dangerous was brought to the school,” says Lt. Dwayne Caswell with Waycross Police.
Police say the students were hatching a plan to harm their teacher Friday morning. They even brought items from home to carry out the plan.
“They had a broken steak knife, a crystal paper weight, toy handcuffs, several items and tape and stuff,” says Lt. Caswell.
Early Tuesday, the Waycross Police Department released photos of some of those items. They include the knife, handcuffs, and gloves.
Ware County School officials say a classmate told the principal about one of the students bringing a weapon to school. The discovery was later made that more students were in on the plot. The school says it’s a matter they are not taking lightly.
“Some might say ‘They were young and in the third grade and how serious could it be?’, but anytime our students’ safety or our teachers’ safety is compromised we obviously have to take that very seriously,” says Theresa Martin with Ware County Schools.
The school district says all the students are suspended until further disciplinary action is decided.
“We continue to do what we always do which is work to make our students aware that this is not appropriate and we ask our parents to help us. The whole saying that it takes a village to raise a child is very appropriate at this time,” says Martin.
Police say no criminal charges will be brought forth against the students.
The District Attorney is handling the case and students will most likely face juvenile charges of Unruly Child.
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When I was 5, I saw an 8-yr old murder his 2 yr old brother. Yes, 3rd graders can committ murder. You got to look at the adults around them to discover why. In the case of the aforementioned, his dad was a frequent guest of the local county jail. In his abscence, the kid worked as an “enforcer” in a one-man pedophile operation.
In other words, there’s more to this story that needs to be uncovered.
In the case of the aforementioned, the cops took him away in handcuffs to the local juvie center, on their way to having him committed to a mental institution.
The 3rd graders in this story need similar “treatment”. Take them away in handcuffs and put them in a mental facility for kids at risk. The handcuffs serve as a effective warning to any other kid with similar insane aspirations.
April 1st, 2008 at 10:01 amGansta culture. Thug love reaches out from the hood and into kindergarten.
April 1st, 2008 at 10:12 amHey Frenchie, I suppose this is where your belief in having a calm and casual conversation about where the children went astray should be attempted as opposed to the American belief of spare the rod spoil the child? When children of this age are already plotting such crap, it’s time they take a good look at the parents who are breeding such delinquents.
Jason’s dad, these kids kind of make that 11 year old who was tasered sound somewhat justifiable, at least to me!
April 1st, 2008 at 10:30 amI can believe it. I had the misfortune of going to school with a bunch of monsters-in-training. Strangely, the teachers and counselors were more disturbed by the fact that I defended myself from them than that they wanted to kill someone they didn’t even know. Guess I didn’t fit into their ‘narrative’ properly.
April 1st, 2008 at 3:18 pmI’m not sure how serious these kids actually were (toy handcuffs?), but regardless it’s troubling behavior for sure. There is the possibility this was more of a joke, or an attempt to appear “cool” in front of their friends, or on a dare, etc. But even if they weren’t serious, this is not acceptable behavior.
I agree Dan, this is the parents fault, plain and simple. No eight year old is going to do something like this unless they have been exposed to similar behavior at home, or they learned at home that this kind of behavior is ok (they saw something similar on TV or somewhere else, and the parents didn’t make it clear that this kind of behavior is always wrong). Kids learn mostly through example. The atrocious parenting on display here is sickening really. Very sad.
I’m not sure taking them away in handcuffs would actually do any good in regard to “sending a message” to the other kids. I know kids are far more sophisticated these days than I was at eight, but I still don’t think most eight year olds would really understand what was going on in that scenario (being led away in handcuffs) to learn a lesson from it.
I really don’t think there is anywhere to put an eight year old anyway. Too young for juvenile hall or jail obviously.
If it were me, I would suspend them immediately, and force the kids AND their parents into therapy. Both the parents and the kids need counseling big time. Keep them out of school for a couple weeks while they attend counseling with their parents everyday. Then let them back into school, but the day they come back, have the teacher make sure to spend whatever time it takes to explain to the entire class what their classmates did wrong, and why it was wrong. Of course continue both the kids and the parents counseling at least weekly.
Then have the teacher explain to the whole class what the punishment will be for the young perps…no recess or any other time spent away from class except to go to the bathroom, for the rest of the school year. Instead, they spend all their spare time, including recess, writing “essays” on subjects like, “what I did wrong, why I did it, and why I won’t do it again”, “why I should be honest at all times”, “why I should never cheat or steal”, etc. Alternate the essay days with writing dictionary pages…randomly pick a starting page and then make them write each word on the page and it’s definition.
If you don’t think that would be harsh enough punishment, try thinking back when you were eight years old. Recess for an eight year old is like spending 20 minutes in heaven. And what better way to teach them discipline, penmanship, enhance their writing and spelling skills, expand their vocabulary, and teach them some moral truths that will serve them well the rest of their lives.
It would also show their classmates on a daily basis (for the rest of the school year) what will happen if any of them get out of line. I think that would work as a better deterrent myself…at least for eight year olds.
Or you could call up David Ross and have him come over with his taser and nightstick and teach these badass eight year olds a serious lesson. Make sure to bring a dozen of your friends too…you don’t want to be overwhelmed by those eight year olds. There is nine of them after all!
As far as corporal punishment goes, I’m definitely in favor of it, but with a few qualifications (These are just what worked for me. They’re just my opinion, and I’m NOT trying to tell anyone else how to raise their kids…so yeah, don’t get your panties all in a bunch if you disagree).
First, if you’re angry, wait until you calm down to spank. Second, spank ONLY with your open hand, and ONLY on the butt, 2-3 good smacks is usually more than enough to get their attention. Third, immediately afterward (well, after they stop crying), do your best to explain to them what they did wrong and why it was wrong and that you expect them to change their behavior. Fourth, spanking is only for kids too young to understand an explanation. Once they’re old enough to fully understand an explanation of what they did, why it was wrong, etc, then they are old enough for other types of punishment. What I recommended for the school to do with “essays” and dictionary pages, worked wonders for my kids.
April 1st, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Jason’s dad;WTF!!! What are you smoking??? Freakin’ therapy? How about beatin’ there asses!!That’s one thing that is wrong with America these days;so many people think you can solve stuff with ‘therapy’. My dad’s therapy was beating the crap out of me with whatever was within arms reach. They shouldn’t be allowed back in that school. period. They do need to be made an example of.
April 1st, 2008 at 7:24 pmJEEZUZ. Take off the pussy gloves and grow a pair. explaining things away,essays,dictionary pages. Where the hell do you live,PLEASENTVILLE? If your were my father, I’d probably laugh in your face if you tried that woo woo woo shit. I’m 42 yrs. old and have personally witnessed the effects of ‘new school punishment’ and the ‘old school punishment’ in my own family. And of course being a U.S. Marine, I understand being harsh.
I don’t mind at all that you have a different opinion. You’re certainly entitled to yours, as I’m entitled to mine. I’m also entitled to the same respect I show everyone else, including you.
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reaganmarine84: Jason’s dad;WTF!!! What are you smoking???
I don’t do “drugs” or smoke. I’m ex-US Army SF. I’m not a gym rat, but I still do PT everyday (pushups, situps, pullups, dips), take short 20 minute 5k (3.1 miles) runs 3-4 times a week, work out on a heavy bag 3-4 times a week for 20 minutes at a time, practice combatives 1-2 times a week sparring, and go to the range 3-4 times a month for 30-45 minutes (I can’t afford the ammo to go any longer than that).
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reaganmarine84: How about beatin’ there asses!!That’s one thing that is wrong with America these days;so many people think you can solve stuff with ‘therapy’. My dad’s therapy was beating the crap out of me with whatever was within arms reach.
I’ve never seen an eight year old whose been beaten on a regular basis turn out very good. It tends to turn the kid into a fearful, cowering mess, or a violent little bastard. Maybe you’re the exception to the rule, but you sure are disrespectful and angry. Which I think is bizarre since a) we’re on the Internet…there is nothing on here that should get you so wound up that you’re in danger of stroking out. b) I’m sure we agree on far more things than we disagree on. c) my previous comment is just my opinion, and I clearly stated it as such. I did NOT state it as fact.
As far as therapy goes, some people need it. It could come from a Christian therapist, a Pastor, etc. Not just some psycho babble liberal leftist. My thinking is that these parents need helping learning how to raise their kids, because they are obviously doing a piss poor job of it so far. If there is some other way they could get that kind of education (other than counseling) and they would apply it, then I’d be all for it.
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reaganmarine84: They shouldn’t be allowed back in that school. period.
They’re EIGHT years old. Where exactly should they go? Should we lock them up in a “mental” institution so when they get out they’re 10 times more messed up then when they went in? Or stick them in some kind of lockup facility at EIGHT years old?
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reaganmarine84: They do need to be made an example of.
I agree…but we differ on what that example should be. I think what I stated WOULD set an excellent example, as both a punishment, and as an example for the other kids to follow for studying. I prefer to try and “rehabilitate” them right now, so they hopefully will avoid screwing up later.
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reaganmarine84: Take off the pussy gloves and grow a pair. explaining things away,essays,dictionary pages. Where the hell do you live,PLEASENTVILLE?
I live in South East Michigan actually. Anytime you want to come by and show me in person what a “pussy” I am, just let me know and I’ll give you my phone number and address and we can set up a time.
As far as having to write essays and dictionary pages, you don’t really think eight year olds think that is fun do you? Instead of playing at recess? And considering I just heard on the news that in Detroit, Indianapolis and Cleveland, only about 25% of HS kids are graduating, I would think you and every other adult should want to help kids learn in any way possible.
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reaganmarine84: If your were my father, I’d probably laugh in your face if you tried that woo woo woo shit.
I’m not sure what “woo woo woo shit” is, but again you seem to be demonstrating what kind of person you’ve grown up to be. My son is 22. He graduated Summa Cum Laude with a BSc in Mechanical Engineering from an excellent University when he was 20 years old. He then went into the US Army and is currently an US Army Ranger. He has done one 15 month tour in Afghanistan and is currently down in Georgia waiting for a warning order to redeploy. He’s a good kid and still calls me “Sir”.
My daughter is 19 and a sophomore in college. She doesn’t know exactly what she wants to do yet, but she is maintaining a 3.8 GPA so far. She works about 25 hours a week as a veterinarian technician. She’s a good kid too. She also calls me “Sir”.
I’ve been lucky I reckon, they’re both good kids and they’ve never given me much trouble. I think I did ok with them.
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reaganmarine84: And of course being a U.S. Marine, I understand being harsh.
Yeah, you’re a tough one all right…behind a computer screen anyway. I have nothing but good to say about all US Military personnel in general, and that certainly includes the US Marine Corps, but in my opinion, you aren’t doing them proud with your disrespect and anger.
As I stated earlier, I don’t mind at all that you have a different opinion. It’s totally ok to disagree. It’s even ok with me if you dislike me for whatever reason. But if you want to respond to my comments, do so with respect, or don’t do it all.
April 1st, 2008 at 10:02 pm