No Shit, Sherlock!

April 25th, 2008 Posted By drillanwr.

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Remember … Those of us who were smart enough, by about noon on 9-11-01, figured out the terrorists were at war with us … even though we weren’t at war with them.

We are DOING IT AGAIN!!! This time in Iraq … with Iran!

WSJ:

U.S. Says New Find Shows Iran Still Sends Arms to Iraq

WASHINGTON — The U.S. military says it has found caches of newly made Iranian weapons in Iraq, leading senior officials to conclude Tehran is continuing to funnel armaments into Iraq despite its pledges to the contrary.

Officials in Washington and Baghdad said the purported Iranian mortars, rockets and explosives had date stamps indicating they were manufactured in the past two months. The U.S. plans to publicize the weapons caches in coming days. A pair of senior commanders said a presentation was tentatively planned for Monday.

The allegations, which couldn’t be independently verified, mark a further hardening of U.S. rhetoric on Iran, which senior American officials now describe as the greatest long-term threat to Iraq.

This month, Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said Iranian support for Shiite extremist groups had grown. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said for the first time that he believed Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad knew about the shipments.

Iran has long denied that its government knowingly funneled weapons into Iraq or trained Shiite militants there. It has derided the U.S. claims as propaganda. Several senior U.S. military officials said the weapons caches would undercut the Iranian denials and provide new evidence of continuing Iranian support for Shiite militants across Iraq.

“You can see the manufacturing dates right on the armaments themselves,” one senior commander in Baghdad said. “These are very clearly weapons that were made in the last month or so.”

Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, the top American military spokesman in Baghdad, said U.S. officials were “working on a briefing that we hope to be able to deliver in the next week or so.” He said he would not be “disclosing the substance of the brief.”

Last fall, U.S. and Iraqi officials said Mr. Ahmadinejad had told the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that Tehran would take steps to curb shipments of Iranian weaponry into Iraq.

The weapons of deepest concern to U.S. officials were explosively formed penetrators, or EFPs, which U.S. officials accuse Iran of manufacturing and shipping to Shiite militants. EFPs, which are capable of punching through even the strongest U.S. armor, have been responsible for hundreds of American deaths.

The number of EFP attacks began to sharply decline after the Iranian assurances, resulting in a significant reduction in U.S. military casualties. That led several senior State Department officials to conclude that Tehran was honoring its commitments.

At the Pentagon, Mr. Gates and other top military officials have been skeptical, arguing it was too soon to draw that conclusion.

The number of EFP attacks against U.S. forces has rebounded this year. American commanders accuse Iran of providing the rockets that rained down on the heavily fortified Green Zone in Baghdad recently, killing several Americans. U.S. officials said Iran provided the weaponry that Shiite militants used in block-by-block fighting with Iraqi government security forces in the southern port city of Basra this month.

Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, focused his recent congressional testimony almost exclusively on Iran, which he said was playing a “destructive role” by funneling advanced weaponry to Shiite militants in Iraq.

Within the State Department, views about Iran have also been hardening. Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, told reporters last year that there were signs Tehran was “using some influence to bring down violence from extremist Shia militias.” Earlier this month, by contrast, he said Iran was playing a “highly dangerous” role in Iraq, and directly accused Tehran of providing the deadly rockets that slammed into the U.S. Embassy compound where he lives and works.

Mr. Crocker also said that recent talks between U.S., Iraqi and Iranian officials had made little progress and failed to persuade Iran to change its behavior in Iraq.

Still, U.S. officials have until recently acknowledged uncertainty when the Iranian armaments used in Iraq were manufactured. If the rockets and explosives were made before Iran’s vow to curb weapons shipments, it was possible Tehran was abiding by its commitment.

In light of the new discovery, U.S. officials say they feel confident Iran is continuing to produce weapons and ship them to Iraqi militants. Some of the newly found weapons had manufacturing dates stamped on the weapons themselves, while others were in sealed containers that had similar manufacturing information, the officials said.


6 Responses

  1. Tom in CO

    surprise surprise. You’re going down uncle mahmoud.

  2. Kufir Ken

    “Leading senior officials to conclude Tehran is continuing to funnel armaments into Iraq despite its pledges to the contrary.”

    Well gee… thanks for waking up to that fellas… ever heard of al-Taqiyya? YOU ARE BEING LIED TO WITH MALICIOUS INTENTION!

  3. Tom in Texas

    Why would they stamp dates on them? Or any markings at all?
    It’s like leaving your driver’s license at a crime scene.

  4. alex

    they also sell their weaponary through an online store http://www.diomil.ir/en/home.aspx im sure that will stop though when the moabs and jdams start raining down. :gun: i think you better start hiding mahmoud it looks like uncle sam and his friends are coming to kick your ass. :mrgreen:

  5. Dan (The Infidel)

    The stamps on munitions have to do with, type, composition and weight. All necessary things if you are trying to identify the munitions and use them effectively. And why wouldn’t they put their country of origin on it? So they can brag that it was their shit that killed Americans.

    This is just another “well duh” report. We have all the evidence we need to launch a massive strike on the Iraniacs.
    Personally, I believe it is comming…GW is just laying the political framework for the attack. So the next guy won’t have to waste any time with diplomatic tagiyya or hudna with these apostates.

    Next guy? Yeah that’ll be in all likelihood a dude named McCain. Who better to send pilots over a hostile country than someone who’s been there and done that.

  6. Bryan J

    It’s just my opinion, but I think it should be the immediate death penalty for anyone caught with even one of these weapons. If caught they should be taken out to the street and a bullet put in there head. There is no reason that an Iraqi civilian would have these except to kill Americans of innocent civilians. After WWII there was a small German resistance, these guys were always executed when caught. It only lasted a few months

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