Comments on: Question Of The Day: Piglet Malfunction? Or Piglet Triangulation? http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/ The latest in policital news and the war in Iraq Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:58:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: drillanwr (hembra blanca típica) http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147549 drillanwr (hembra blanca típica) Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:55:25 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147549 :arrow: Bash - Neither. Bacon. :arrow: Bash -

Neither.

Bacon.

]]> By: Political.fish http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147550 Political.fish Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:59:16 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147550 I love that,"Allah AkBOOOOM"! I love that,”Allah AkBOOOOM”!

]]> By: John Goodrow http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147555 John Goodrow Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:06:13 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147555 Who cares he's dead. :twisted: Say hi to muhammed you fucking waste of space. Who cares he’s dead. :twisted:

Say hi to muhammed you fucking waste of space.

]]> By: drillanwr (hembra blanca típica) http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147562 drillanwr (hembra blanca típica) Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:16:31 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147562 Bacon! Bacon! Bacon!!! BACON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bacon! Bacon! Bacon!!!

BACON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Dan (The Infidel) http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147572 Dan (The Infidel) Sun, 27 Apr 2008 02:39:53 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147572 I was watching the fuzes and the rounds he was dropping. They looked normal. Could have been a weapon malfunction. Then again, I've never seen a misfire detonate in the tube. I was always told that the round has to travel a certain distance before it arms itself. So the counter-battery suggestion might be a valid one. Still agreat video. Allahu...Boom....LOL. Say hello to hellfire and damnation oinkster. No 72 virgins for you. I was watching the fuzes and the rounds he was dropping. They looked normal. Could have been a weapon malfunction.
Then again, I’ve never seen a misfire detonate in the tube. I was always told that the round has to travel a certain distance before it arms itself.

So the counter-battery suggestion might be a valid one.

Still agreat video. Allahu…Boom….LOL. Say hello to hellfire and damnation oinkster. No 72 virgins for you.

]]> By: Kermit http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147607 Kermit Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:22:19 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147607 So the flash began behind him at the wall. Should we cook up a mess of eggs? How about grits or hash browns to go with that. So the flash began behind him at the wall. Should we cook up a mess of eggs? How about grits or hash browns to go with that.

]]> By: Bill Smith http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147609 Bill Smith Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:26:33 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147609 Finally I agree with you, Fish. :beer: :beer: Finally I agree with you, Fish.
:beer: :beer:

]]> By: 0311inOHio (typical white person) http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147612 0311inOHio (typical white person) Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:31:25 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147612 :lol: Too funny... adios, motherfucker... :beer: :gun: :lol: Too funny… adios, motherfucker… :beer: :gun:

]]> By: Marc Stockwell-Moniz http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147613 Marc Stockwell-Moniz Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:34:21 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147613 :arrow: Political.fish. To funny. Allah Akboom. To freaking funny. Bye, bye piglet. :arrow: Political.fish.
To funny.
Allah Akboom.
To freaking funny.
Bye, bye piglet.

]]> By: GBU43 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147626 GBU43 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:10:37 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147626 Thats not counter battery fire. For a few reasons. #1. Hes up against that wall and the guys filming probably are up against another. That means an incoming round would have to have had an almost vertical trajectory to land right there. Arty (not counting new GPS stuff) just doesn't come in that way. #2. The explosion is way to small for a 155 round. #3. As for the fuse. Most dumb fuses have an inertial cam that when fired rotates the firing pin/contactor in line with the detonation initiator. If that safety is already in the locked position the action of firing it could easily initiate the explosives. #4. Somewhere liveleak has a good video of what counter battery looks like from the receiving end. Dont have a link sorry. GB Thats not counter battery fire. For a few reasons.

#1. Hes up against that wall and the guys filming probably are up against another. That means an incoming round would have to have had an almost vertical trajectory to land right there. Arty (not counting new GPS stuff) just doesn’t come in that way.

#2. The explosion is way to small for a 155 round.

#3. As for the fuse. Most dumb fuses have an inertial cam that when fired rotates the firing pin/contactor in line with the detonation initiator. If that safety is already in the locked position the action of firing it could easily initiate the explosives.

#4. Somewhere liveleak has a good video of what counter battery looks like from the receiving end. Dont have a link sorry.

GB

]]> By: RememberOurFathers http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147633 RememberOurFathers Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:27:49 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147633 Misfire, you would have heard the incoming. Misfire, you would have heard the incoming.

]]> By: Leatherneck http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147638 Leatherneck Sun, 27 Apr 2008 04:35:20 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147638 It was either "Death In The A Shau Valley" by Larry Chambers, "Six Silent Men" by Reynel Martinez, or "Reflections Of A Warrior" by Franklin D. Miller where I read about recon/LRRP teams booby-trapping the NVA's booby-traps & or artillery. I am no expert & I couldn't tell by the above clip, but I'm sure our guys are utilizing the same kinds of tricks today. It must be an enormous mind-fuck for the enemy & it gives me a chuckle every time. By the way, the above books are **HIGHLY** recommended reading. Excellent documentation/witness to the fact that our military had actually WON the Vietnam War. Any books by Bruce H. Major Norton are also brilliant. Now that I think of it, it might have been "Force Recon Command" by Alex Lee where I read about the booby-trap thing. Anyhow, all worth a serious look. It was either “Death In The A Shau Valley” by Larry Chambers, “Six Silent Men” by Reynel Martinez, or “Reflections Of A Warrior” by Franklin D. Miller where I read about recon/LRRP teams booby-trapping the NVA’s booby-traps & or artillery.

I am no expert & I couldn’t tell by the above clip, but I’m sure our guys are utilizing the same kinds of tricks today.

It must be an enormous mind-fuck for the enemy & it gives me a chuckle every time.

By the way, the above books are **HIGHLY** recommended reading. Excellent documentation/witness to the fact that our military had actually WON the Vietnam War.

Any books by Bruce H. Major Norton are also brilliant.

Now that I think of it, it might have been “Force Recon Command” by Alex Lee where I read about the booby-trap thing.

Anyhow, all worth a serious look.

]]> By: Chuck http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147653 Chuck Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:20:37 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147653 Is it sick that I laugh my ass of every time I see this rag throwing munitions down an exhaust pipe? I say self inflicted. Gotta love his look up to see if it fired. Fuck you Muj! Is it sick that I laugh my ass of every time I see this rag throwing munitions down an exhaust pipe? I say self inflicted. Gotta love his look up to see if it fired. Fuck you Muj!

]]> By: Dan (The Infidel) http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147675 Dan (The Infidel) Sun, 27 Apr 2008 06:28:50 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147675 When I said counter-battery fire, it doesn't necessarily mean arty. Could have been a mortar. One thing about mortars is high angle fire. A mortar could easily get into such a confined spot. With GPS..I don't see how they could miss. Yeah, arty can do HA too...but not as good as mortars. The explosion was too small to be arty anyways. But without sound confirming incomming, we're only left with a misfire with some bad ammo...or some really neat SOF tricks on haji. Still, I've seen misfires in arty (8") and misfires with mortars (60, 81 and 4.2) Never saw one go up like this. All misfires turned out safely. No premature detonations. Bottom line is haji had a bad day. And that's all that really counts. Hell, even my wife enjoyed the vid. I don't who was laughing harder me or her. :beer: And a toast to cannon-cockers and mortar maggots both Marines and Army types for reaching out and touching people long distance. It's the next best thing to being there. :mrgreen: :beer: :beer: When I said counter-battery fire, it doesn’t necessarily mean arty. Could have been a mortar. One thing about mortars is high angle fire. A mortar could easily get into such a confined spot. With GPS..I don’t see how they could miss. Yeah, arty can do HA too…but not as good as mortars. The explosion was too small to be arty anyways. But without sound confirming incomming, we’re only left with a misfire with some bad ammo…or some really neat SOF tricks on haji.

Still, I’ve seen misfires in arty (8″) and misfires with mortars (60, 81 and 4.2) Never saw one go up like this. All
misfires turned out safely. No premature detonations.

Bottom line is haji had a bad day. And that’s all that really counts. Hell, even my wife enjoyed the vid. I don’t who was laughing harder me or her. :beer:

And a toast to cannon-cockers and mortar maggots both Marines and Army types for reaching out and touching people long distance. It’s the next best thing to being there. :mrgreen: :beer: :beer:

]]> By: BlueOval8950 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147698 BlueOval8950 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:30:21 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147698 There was an article in this months American Rifleman about the SOG in Vietnam inserting booby trapped 7.62x39, 12mm AA rounds and 82mm mortar rounds into VC and NVA weapons caches. The mortar rounds would detonate when the round dropped, which is what that looks like. Whether it was a booby trapped round planted by US Spec Ops or just shitty Russian/Chinese/Iranian ordinance, thats one dead piglet. There was an article in this months American Rifleman about the SOG in Vietnam inserting booby trapped 7.62×39, 12mm AA rounds and 82mm mortar rounds into VC and NVA weapons caches. The mortar rounds would detonate when the round dropped, which is what that looks like.

Whether it was a booby trapped round planted by US Spec Ops or just shitty Russian/Chinese/Iranian ordinance, thats one dead piglet.

]]> By: alexjensentx http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147719 alexjensentx Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:23:02 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147719 seems to be working fine to me :razz: seems to be working fine to me :razz:

]]> By: Ranger http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147722 Ranger Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:30:14 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147722 Bash, Dan, Leatherneck, all good input. I'm thinking it's a booby trapped round or simply some ill-maintained ammo. Bash, Dan, Leatherneck, all good input.

I’m thinking it’s a booby trapped round or simply some ill-maintained ammo.

]]> By: Giorgi http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147737 Giorgi Sun, 27 Apr 2008 09:41:25 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147737 definately a missfire, old-ass mortar round probably stored in a humid basement, weak fuse actuated upon the projectile sharge set-off, i've seen a vid from chechnya, they were firing a recoilles rifle, SPG-7, and it exploded similarly...it looks like a commando 60mm mortar here, if it was a counter-battery, the cameramen would have been smeared, 155 mm round can destroy a house, guys, and hellfire has got more punch to it than the explosion seen on the vid...nontheless - funny as hell, allakh-bang! that should make them add to their coran, dont use the lords name in vain definately a missfire, old-ass mortar round probably stored in a humid basement, weak fuse actuated upon the projectile sharge set-off, i’ve seen a vid from chechnya, they were firing a recoilles rifle, SPG-7, and it exploded similarly…it looks like a commando 60mm mortar here, if it was a counter-battery, the cameramen would have been smeared, 155 mm round can destroy a house, guys, and hellfire has got more punch to it than the explosion seen on the vid…nontheless - funny as hell, allakh-bang! that should make them add to their coran, dont use the lords name in vain

]]> By: Specter http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147776 Specter Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:42:29 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147776 Neither, It was divine intervention. Neither,

It was divine intervention.

]]> By: Big Sarge http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147795 Big Sarge Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:05:01 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147795 @ Specter We have a winner (although I'm inclined to believe bad ammo) Suddenly, I'm craving a BLT for lunch. Battlekings Send Me Rock of the Marne @ Specter
We have a winner (although I’m inclined to believe bad ammo)

Suddenly, I’m craving a BLT for lunch.

Battlekings
Send Me
Rock of the Marne

]]> By: Egfrow http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147811 Egfrow Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:34:29 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147811 It detonated at the exact moment it was supposed to launch out of the tube. He had his loading pattern pretty consistent. It detonated at the exact moment it was supposed to launch out of the tube. He had his loading pattern pretty consistent.

]]> By: Political.fish http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147824 Political.fish Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:10:38 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147824 :arrow: Bill Smith I have no argument with you, we're all independant thinkers here. :beer: :beer: :arrow: Bill Smith
I have no argument with you, we’re all independant thinkers here. :beer: :beer:

]]> By: T Double Dash http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147828 T Double Dash Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:14:56 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147828 ha ha, allah akbar to that ha ha, allah akbar to that

]]> By: TO (typical white person) http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147876 TO (typical white person) Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:02:01 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147876 I want to see this video as a series. Allah Akbar .... I agree. I want to see this video as a series. Allah Akbar …. I agree.

]]> By: Joshua http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147909 Joshua Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:59:46 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/04/question-of-the-day-piglet-malfunction-or-piglet-triangulation/#comment-147909 You could hear a slight wizzing sound as he dropped it into the tube before detonation, if that tells you anything. It didn't sound like an incoming round though. All I want to know is how did someone get their hands on this tape, the insurgents wouldn't have posted it. However I'm sure they have been filming plenty of times when a missile impacts right next to them. You could hear a slight wizzing sound as he dropped it into the tube before detonation, if that tells you anything.

It didn’t sound like an incoming round though.

All I want to know is how did someone get their hands on this tape, the insurgents wouldn’t have posted it.

However I’m sure they have been filming plenty of times when a missile impacts right next to them.

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