Grand Ayatollah Ali Al-Sistani: Sure No Problem. Kill US Forces??? Huh? - Im Calling Bullshit - UPDATE
YUP! Bullshit AP Story - - - - HAMZA HENDAWI and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA from the AP are now listed in my book as bullshit artests…
Update from Voices Of Iraq - - -
Karbala, May23, (VOI)- A close source to grand ayatollah Ali Sistani’s office on Friday denied news agencies’ reports the Shiite cleric issued a fatwa permiting taking up weapons to drive the foreign occupation forces out of Iraq.
“The reports of issuing fatwa by the Shiite cleric Sistani permiting taking up arms to drive foreign troops out of Iraq were baseless”.
Internationa news agencies reported Sistani issued a fatwa, an edict, legalizing Iraqis to hold up arms to drive US troops out of Iraq.
The source, a cleric from Karbala associated with Sistani office,pointed out “Sistani’s stance is clear since toppling the former regime(of Saddam Hussein) by calling for sticking to civil resistence to drive foreign troops out of Iraq”.
Ali Sistani, living in Najaf, is the top cleric and hold a strong sway over Shiites in Iraq and a number muslim countries.
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AP Bullshit story from early this morning…..
Count how many time the word “anonymity” is stated in this article…
Looks more like HAMZA and QASSIM are looking for a “Better” story. I guess things have been quiet in Iraq as of late..
Must be time for the fucking media to stir up some American Soldiers deaths..
Could you imagine spending your entire life as miserable as this guy?
Look At his picture one more time and think to yourself “Grandpa? Can you take me to the zoo?”
Also, another clue in the next line
By HAMZA HENDAWI and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writers
BAGHDAD - Iraq’s most influential Shiite cleric has been quietly issuing religious edicts declaring that armed resistance against U.S.-led foreign troops is permissible — a potentially significant shift by a key supporter of the Washington-backed government in Baghdad.
The edicts, or fatwas, by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani suggest he seeks to sharpen his long-held opposition to American troops and counter the populist appeal of his main rivals, firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army militia.
But — unlike al-Sadr’s anti-American broadsides — the Iranian-born al-Sistani has displayed extreme caution with anything that could imperil the Shiite-dominated government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
The two met Thursday at the elderly cleric’s base in the city of Najaf south of Baghdad.
So far, al-Sistani’s fatwas have been limited to a handful of people. They also were issued verbally and in private — rather than a blanket proclamation to the general Shiite population — according to three prominent Shiite officials in regular contact with al-Sistani as well as two followers who received the edicts in Najaf.
All spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.
Al-Sistani — who is believed to be 79 or 80 — has not been seen in public since a brief appearance in August 2004, shortly after returning from London for medical treatment for an unspecified heart condition.
So, he is ordering fatwas against American forces from his home in London??? But you said above they met in Najaf.
But his mix of religious authority and political clout makes him more powerful than any of Iraq’s elected leaders.
For American officials, he represents a key stabilizing force in Iraq for refusing to support a full-scale Shiite uprising against U.S.-led forces or Sunnis — especially at the height of sectarian bloodletting after an important Shiite shrine was bombed in 2006.
It is impossible to determine whether those who received the edicts acted on them. Most attacks — except some by al-Qaida in Iraq — are carried out without claims of responsibility.
It is also unknown whether al-Sistani intended the fatwas to inspire violence or simply as theological opinions on foreign occupiers. Al-Sadr — who has a much lower clerical rank than al-Sistani — recently has threatened “open war” on U.S.-led forces.
The U.S. military said it had no indications that al-Sistani was seeking to “promote violence” against U.S.-led troops. It also had no information linking the ayatollah or other top Shiite clerics to armed groups battling U.S. forces and allies.
A senior aide to the prime minister, al-Maliki, said he was not aware of the fatwas, but added that the “rejection of the occupation is a legal and religious principle” and that top Shiite clerics were free to make their own decisions. The aide also spoke on condition of anonymity.
Fatwas are theological opinions by an individual cleric and views on the same subject can vary. They gain force from consensus among experts in Islamic law and traditions.
In the past, al-Sistani has avoided answering even abstract questions on whether fighting the U.S. presence in Iraq is allowed by Islam. Such questions sent to his Web site — which he uses to respond to followers’ queries — have been ignored. All visitors to his office who had asked the question received a vague response.
The subtle shift could point to his growing impatience with the continued American presence more than five years after the U.S.-led invasion.
It also underlines possible opposition to any agreement by Baghdad to allow a long-term U.S. military foothold in Iraq — part a deal that is currently under negotiation and could be signed as early as July.
Al-Sistani’s distaste for the U.S. presence is no secret. In his public fatwas on his Web site, he blames Washington for many of Iraq’s woes.
But a more aggressive tone from the cleric could have worrisome ripples through Iraq’s Shiite majority — 65 percent of the country’s estimated 27 million population — in which many followers are swayed by his every word.
Well, I hope they understand that this entire report looks like HAMZA HENDAWI and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writers, words rather the Sistanis.
A longtime official at al-Sistani’s office in Najaf would not deny or confirm the edicts issued in private, but hinted that a publicized call for jihad may come later.
“(Al-Sistani) rejects the American presence,” he told the AP, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment to media. “He believes they (the Americans) will at the end pay a heavy price for the damage they inflicted on Iraq.”
Juan Cole, a U.S. expert on Shiites in the Middle East, speculated that “al-Sistani clearly will give a fatwa against the occupation by a year or two.” But he said it would be “premature” for the cleric to do so now.
Between 10 and 15 people are believed to have received the new fatwas in recent months, the Shiite officials told the AP.
Most of those seeking al-Sistani’s views are young men known for their staunch loyalty to al-Sistani who call themselves “Jund al-Marjaiyah,” or “Soldiers of the Religious Authorities,” according to the Shiite officials.
Al-Sistani’s new edicts — which did not specifically mention Americans but refer to foreign occupiers — were in response to the question of whether it’s permitted to “wage armed resistance,” according to the two Shiites who received them.
Al-Sistani’s affirmative response also carried a stern warning that “public interest” should not be harmed and every effort must be made to ensure that no harm comes to Iraqis or their property during “acts of resistance,” they said.
“Changing the tyrannical (Saddam Hussein) regime by invasion and occupation was not what we wished for because of the many tragedies they have created,” al-Sistani said in reply to a question on his Web site.
“We are extremely worried about their intentions,” he wrote in response to another question on his views about the U.S. military presence.
Al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army twice revolted against U.S. forces in 2004. It has since periodically attacked U.S. troops and battled them for seven weeks in Baghdad this year.
In perhaps another sign of al-Sistani’s hardened position, he has opposed disarming the Mahdi Army as demanded by al-Maliki, according to Shiite officials close to the cleric.
Disarming the Mahdi Army would — in the views of many Shiites — leave them vulnerable to attacks by armed Sunni factions that are steadily gaining strength after joining the U.S. military fight against al-Qaida.
“Al-Sistani would love Muqtada (al-Sadr) to disappear but he will not break the community by openly going against a popular Shiite cleric,” said Vali Nasr, an expert on Shiite affairs at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University. “If he orders militias disbanded and a car bomb again kills many Shiites, he will be held responsible.”





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Ap or Reuters? Wouldn’t trust ANYTHING they say.
May 22nd, 2008 at 11:49 pmIf I hear it from Bill Roggio, I’ll believe it.
Those guys are just liars.
They’ll do anything to prevent Iraq from being seen as
the success for the President that it has become.
Mission Accomplished.
isnt hamza and qassim the names of rockets also?
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:16 amNo. Here’s the bullshittiest part “In perhaps another sign of al-Sistani’s hardened position, he has opposed disarming the Mahdi Army as demanded by al-Maliki, according to Shiite officials close to the cleric.”
Sistani has said publicly that he thinks that Mookie is crazier than a bed bug. I doubt that he has changed his mind. That militia answers to Mookie not to al-Sistani. So, I surmise this article is just more tagiyya by some “moderate” jihadi followers of the false prophet who wrote this POS article. Disinformation is stock n trade for all jihadis no matter who they work for. And Reuters? Just another propaganda arm of the stupid western left.
May 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 amMore AP BS. Actually, I double checked to see if this wasn’t written by AFP.
This would be a complete about face by Sistani.
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:38 amis dan rather involved in this some how????
May 23rd, 2008 at 7:45 amSistani is pissing his pants at this point. This Prick is scared! He knows now it is only a matter of time before the people of Iran take his sorry ass out or the US Marines do.
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:12 pmI guess I’m the only person alive to recall the “explosive story” a few years back about a “secret letter” purportedly sent from Maliki to al-Sadr warning him to leave Iraq to avoid an American commando raid…This document came out of “Egyptian [read: Sunni Arab] intelligence sources.” Well, a couple years later, Maliki has crushed alSadr, how well does the authenticity of that document stand up now?
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:32 pm