That was cold. My thoughts exactly.

I never had any sympathy for those assholes. At least now, as fertilizer, they perform a useful function.

The reason you hadn’t ever heard the whole story is because the media was in the bag for their international socialist brethren.
This was proven by the intentional mis-reporting of the magnificent American Victory in the Tet Offensives.

innocent? not really.

mshatto is right … You look at the Russian/Bolshevik Revolution, and ALL Communist movements … China and N. Korea … Cuba, and now even Venezuela. The people are expendable. It is the ideology that must prevail.

May 4, 1970 there was a complete breakdown of our organized system of law and order. In those moments it was the purest definition of anarchy.

So, while 4 students were killed that day, and their side was the only one that counted losses … they still won.

Vehement even backed up my premise that we only ever hear one side of this story.

To this day at freshman orientation at KSU they discuss the shootings and the National Guard in these one-sided terms. The three days prior to those moments on May 4, 1970 just do not exist.

The context of this event has been completely ignored, covered-up, and possibly lost.

mike3481, this is what I eventually heard;

1. They took over a building
2. Campus Cops showed up and were beaten back.
3. City Cops showed up…same as before.
4. DIFFERENT BUILDING SET ON FIRE
5. All Fire Departments that respond are also beaten back.
6. Building burns to the ground
7. County AND State Police show up AND ARE BEATEN BACK.
8. Reserve unit of the U.S. Army shows up (aka the Army National Guard)
9. Protesters do their thing…the National Guard does there thing.
10. Liberal Media does their thing.

IMO, unless you were activly kicking the asses of the retard commie fucks who burned the ROTC building (and if you were too weak to fight if you were not far far away from the “demonstration”) you were not innocent.

If you are talking about the song “Ohio”, it was Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young

http://www.thrasherswheat.org/fot/ohio.htm

I cheered the NG. And I wish they’d repeat the excercise.

These are the same tards that joined Code Fink and the rest of the weirdo maggot organizations that want to trash our troops and our country.

Nothing’s changed, except now we have a ton of pro-troop organizations and many folks like GOE.

Code Fink and their ilk will have a hard time pulling off another stunt like the hippies pulled in the 60’s and 70’s.
This time there is resistence.

The counter-revolution is on.

The students that were killed were not a threat to the Guard.

Her are the distances:

Allison Krause - Age: 19, 110 Yards
William Schroeder - Age: 19, 130 Yards
Jeffrey Miller - Age: 20, 90 Yards
Sandra Scheuer - Age: 20, 130 Yards

2 were simply walking to class.

What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground?

http://www.thrasherswheat.org/2008/05/ohio-why-todays-students-dont-protest.html

Thanks for putting the whole thing in the proper perspective. I don’t know if the kids that were killed were die-hard, lice-infested, commie, hippy freaks or just 4 kids caught up in the insanity. I wonder if their parents ever once felt angry at these children for getting involved in that crap or if they only harbor hatred for the N. G. troops. This just shows us how feckless and treasonous the mainstream media has been for so long.

Once one realizes that the media is so biased, one can then see into the distant past and realize how long we have been deceived by the leftists in the media. They should all be sued for malpractice.

Great article drillnwr. It’s a teaching piece for my kids.

Sheesh

I’m sure there were some other casualties that were not fatal. I remember watching a tv show about the whole incident and it had one guy on who got hit in the neck and was paralyzed. He wasn’t even involved with the commie anarchists, he was just walking by heading to class(if I remember correctly)

I lean more towards the Ohio state guard on this one. The mere fact they were called shows that the situation had escalated to that point. From what I remember from reading about the incident, the group of students kept throwing rocks and ish at them, until the guard retreated to a football field. When the group of students followed, continuing to throw stuff at them, a couple guardsmen turned and opened fire.

Don’t throw rocks at people with guns unless you plan on getting shot. Maybe the guard should’ve retreated, but I just think that would’ve emboldened those commie anarchists to up the stakes even higher. It would be interesting to imagine how the events would’ve been spun if 4 guardsman had been killed by the students.

During the course of that long weekend after the National Guard came on the scene, and the protesters willingly escalated the heated exchanges that began occurring from May 2nd to the pivotal shootings on May 4th, there were exchanges resulting on injuries on both sides. Some things I have read regarding the instances injuries to the students resulted from NG bayonets.

Jerb

Yes, you are correct. there were others injured on May 4th during the shootings, one resulting in paralysis.

“Two of the four students killed, Allison Krause and Jeffrey Miller, had participated in the protest, and the other two, Sandra Scheuer and William Knox Schroeder, were walking from one class to the next. Schroeder was also a member of the campus ROTC chapter.”(wikipedia)

mshatto- I can accept that not everyone there was a protes, oops, I mean subversive/anarchist. It is easy to fall into the trap of (pardon my crude understanding of psych. 101), not so much “projection”, but maybe it is “displacement.”- If I understand it correctly it is the transfer of an emotion from a person or object about which it was originally experienced to another object or person. Perhaps that would explain the comments and frustration esp. when a one sided media continuously leaves out the context in favor of politically motivated agenda.

I believe Drill hit on it beautifully when she referred to the Hurricane Katrina/Gov. Blanco affair. What is ironic to me was the constant 2005 MSM reference to the “displacement” in New Orleans. Well excuse me, was the displacement you had in mind a hatred of having to babysit a bunch of underprepared dome-dwellers and transfixing that upon the Bush administration? Again the only context was how the Federal Gov’t dropped the ball. If context were everything the MSM would have shown the overworked rescue workers throughout the Gulf region that weekend- the Coast Guard, an arm of Homeland Security had rescued tens of thousands in the days following Katrina. I found this about two months after Sept ‘05, and maybe Bash might be able to help out a bit, but the numbers show alot to me about the gross negligence showed by the MSM to the USCGS esp. the air crews that had upwards of 10k rescues by no more than 43 helicopters in the first few days following Katrina.
http://www.faircount.com/web04/coast/katrina/index2.html

If students want to riot, set fire to campus property as they did at Kent State, University of MD, and at Jackson State, tand many other campuses in that era, then whatever happens is their own fault.

I blame the whole thing on the hippy assholes who trashed the campus and started the riot in the first place.

You play with fire, you get burned. The NG should have shot the leaders of the rebellion. Too bad they didn’t. But the hippies caused the problem, not the law. The hippies are the guilty ones.

Well, I’m not a Harvard grad, but even I know, you don’t throw rocks (or stand next to people throwing rocks) at other people who have loaded weapons.

Tragedy? Yes, Tragically STUPID!

Two thumbs up!