That is my take and I am sticking by it.

Go figure.

we broke out the chainsaws, trucks and the good old American ‘can do’ attitude.

The values of honor, sacrifice, and helping others - values that used to be evident from coast to coast,before big gov’t liberalism infected the populace - still easily seen in the “heartland”

But… this thread is pathetic. For a site that prides itself on not buying into the MSM propaganda HOOK - LINE - and - SINKER, this is disheartening. Most importantly, the rape and murder aspects are a myth, Bash. I live here (north of Lake Pontchartrain in St. Tammany Parish) in one of the hardest hit areas. Nobody flew in here and helped us out… they only helped the city. And anyone can check out the report that Popular Mechanics “debunking the myths of Hurricane Katrina”… which were promoted by our useless media.

And to the other ignorant comments posted, please get a clue. Over the last 28 years we’ve had four Republican governors for a total of 16 years (Roemer was always a Republican at heart and switched in the middle of his term).

Look at the way Louisiana has voted since Ronald Reagan… and get more clues.

This is a strong Republican state these days with one (okay maybe two) buckets of shit that drag it down.

I’m not pissed off at any of my Dollardite brethren… I’m saddened.

I wish the best for all of you and also pray that God blesses each and every one of you!

Now… on to more important business… GO TIGERS!!!!

You must have been asleep at the wheel as you drove I-12 from Slidell to Baton Rouge??

Meanwhile; Katrina kicked the roach nest and they scurried to New Iberia where maintainence workers need security guards (in daylight) to repair the free FEMA trailers they’ve defiled. The crime rate’s through the roof there and the murders this year alone are nearing 20. Guess who’s responsible? It ain’t the locals.

I don’t claim NO as part of La., it’s the asshole of the state, Katrina underscored it. Great place to visit, shitty place to live and for anyone not in the know….IT AIN’T FRIGGIN CAJUN COUNTRY!!! AND THE FOOD AIN’T CAJUN!

We helped each other out in Rita, black&white and I’m proud of ‘em. I’m proud of those Iowans too, got a few that work for me. They’re showing this country what sufficiency is.

Nagin–kiss my ass and lastly…

Geax-tah-hell-elle-ess-youx

Go Rebels.

Perhaps its the perception of the thing that we should talk about instead of the reality - the media certainly has.

Now… Go put on ESPN and ROOT for the Tigahs!!

I agree.

Probably more to do with it than any skin color.

You are comparing apples, to racist people
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Not sure what that means …

Just this, however, when told it was time to leave and get the hell out of the way … the folks in the Midwest had more than enough brains to do so … knowing you shouldn’t ‘assume’ the government is going to save the day against nature.

It is obvious the government teat-clenching population of New Orleans, after years and years of coddling, made that exact assumption … and lost.

My Grandma was born in Omaha, raised in Laramie, Wyo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX6EvXTIOAg

Dude, just a little heads-up here…you might want to carefully read the text in the yellow box below.

I do, in a back-handed way he’s calling us a bunch of racists!

drillanwr, I’m pretty sure you’re being polite…however,I’m a left-handed Sagittarius, I have a tendency to just blurt out the truth as I immediately see it to be.

And yes, my idiot, liberal, blood relatives rarely discuss politics with me

drillanwr, I’m pretty sure you’re being polite…however,I’m a left-handed Sagittarius, I have a tendency to just blurt out the truth as I immediately see it to be.

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Aries/Taurus Cusp … I got double the fucking horns, man … And born in The Year Of The Dog on the Chinese Zodiac …

“It’s obvious Bush hates white people too.”
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perfect

These people are hard working American Farmers with respect for each others neighbors. I would guess that if there is any looting that would have taken place it would have been by ghetto trach trying to sneak their way in from Chicago or another major city relatively close.

Since a good majority wants to back-pat Steve’s “no blacks” analysis as some sort of monumental, heretofore unspoken, grand revelation, I can’t help but be drawn by another steve’s (m) comment.

What some of you think is “easily seen in the heartland” is also “easily seen” in a lot of other places. It is also “easily seen” that some amount of satisfaction is derived by certain posters in having pointed out these specific differences.

I certainly don’t expect that Dollard or Bash expected to have a thread at this awesome place so closely resembling garbage that one could find on Stormfort, but… you know… here it is.

I would bet there ARE ‘blacks’ in the Midwest that have been hit by this natural disaster … and are working just as hard and smart to get themselves AND THEIR NEIGHBORS out of this situation.

New Orleans was an area under a certain POLITICAL persuasion … and the population there, at least highlighted by the post-Katrina MSM, was portrayed as ‘black’ … when point in fact there were just as many ‘whites’ effected by the hurricane and flooding … but not that you would have noticed in the news.

People, we are being manipulated into a ‘racist’ corner here … Why? Because it will be the cornerstone for the general election campaign.

Don’t fall into it …

And for anyone who comes onto this site and assumes we here are racists … that’s a steaming pile of bullshit. I have seen, on more than one occasion, a ‘regular’ comment poster(s) smack down someone who has made a blatantly racist remark.

The racism going on in this country is being committed by the damn liberals … NOT the conservatives.

Since you didn’t clarify, I sure hope you aren’t implying that I’m manipulating anything.

I’m just calling certain comments as I see them. If you refuse to see the sentiment implied by certain individuals, that’s your prerogative.

“New Orleans was an area under a certain POLITICAL persuasion … and the population there, at least highlighted by the post-Katrina MSM, was portrayed as ‘black’ … when point in fact there were just as many ‘whites’ effected by the hurricane and flooding … but not that you would have noticed in the news.”

Exactly… and 100% accurate. So, given the accuracy of this thought it would have made entirely much more sense to have first blamed the freaking libs and not bought into the MSM portrayal, would it not?

And anyone can assume that I assumed whatever they want to think I assumed but I can guarantee you one thing… if the assumption were correct, I wouldn’t have donated one stinking dime. So they’d at least be 1,000 times wrong.

This site enjoys referrals from some pretty heavily trafficked sites. The good name doesn’t need to be soiled by a few nimrods.

GMAFB

They’re nothing more than the values of GOOD people who cover every strata of racial background and physical location you can imagine from sea to shining sea.

1) I am not singling anyone out …

2) there is no real difference between the MSM and liberals in this country … The MSM is the voice box of the liberals in this country.

And you are correct … The ‘Midwestern’ values ARE the values of this nation and its backbone …

However, in about 4 decades the politicians in this country have convinced some people in this country that those values are just too hard to sustain, and they would be better off letting someone else take over their ‘personal responsibility’ …

Besides, the East and West coasts of this country have somehow been hiked up to somehow be the representation of the country as a whole … politically and ideologically, simply because there is a condencing of population in those regions.

The Midwest of this country is portrayed as some backward, knuckle-dragging area that ‘evolution’ seems to have bypassed. Hell, Texas is talked about as if it’s another damn country and not a state in the union.

These are all characteristics of the liberal mentality, and promoted by the MSM.

They all demand more government control and intervention, yet, the government is the first to be blamed.

Days after the drama of the rush of the waters in the Midwest, the MSM is now hunting, seeking, and gathering battered and weary Midwesterners who will somehow blame the government for their current situation.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080619/D91DDG5O2.html

But people seeing these complaints in their newspapers and on TV (all liberal agenda driven, especially in an election year) will assume the foundation for these poor folks’ complaints is somehow the current administration’s fault … But check the date in question … 1999.

And I do not buy into the whole, well, Bush IS the president now … so it’s his fault.

No, the decisions of past presidents and their administrations do count. As we are seeing right now with the ‘oil crisis’ in this country … not to mention the problems in Iraq and Iran …

Good. We’re almost 100% in agreement.

Iowa = people, in particular American people, at their best.

Excellent observation Bash and thanks for bringing it up.

You’re not ‘converting’ me to any measure … I am just defining my remarks in more detail.

The fact of the matter is, in New Orleans, the government and independent agencies that came to assist and help the folks sat outside the city for a spell … Why? … Because they were getting their inside information from the MSM … that was getting their information from hear-say … and they were hyping it to the fullest. Rapes, murders, shootings … blah-blah … So, the rescue and aid efforts, who are NOT armed or trained to go into what was essentially being portrayed (by the media) as a war zone …

So, with the aid of the biased media, the personal responsibility of the citizens of N. O. to get out of the way of the storm, and the primary government responsibility of the local and state governments has been deliberately buried under the fat finger of guilt pointing at the feds … who would have been blasted as fascists had they just decided to go balls to the wall and storm in there and take over the situation.

Don’t think I did anything in that last post other than say that I was largely in agreement with you, did I? Go ahead and define away.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html?page=2

And do some of you believe nothing was getting accomplished while the governmental agencies were paralyzed?

I’ve got news for you. There was a lot being done (and more efficiently) well before any useless government agency got its ass in gear. Private citizens were just as responsible for saving lives as any governmental body.

The REAL first responders? Churches… no surprise.

Yep … We ARE on the same page … Stepping back from the Howitzer …

Not with my A-10s circling overhead …

In NO/LA you had a complete clusterfuck of a Mayor followed up by a waste of space Govenor and one of the most corrupt police forces in the country…

Things like that cant help when something like this goes down.

You’re right, and instead of a wake-up call, it became a pity party.

“In NO/LA you had a complete clusterfuck of a Mayor followed up by a waste of space Govenor and one of the most corrupt police forces in the country…”

Therein lies the rest of the recipe for “the perfect storm”.

No argument here.

Only for the ones who were espousing what !should! be done but wouldn’t actually lift a finger to help to DO anything… at all… themselves.

Standing up in front of a camera during a “telethon” spewing all kinds of politically motivated bullshit doesn’t qualify as help, IMO. So you can take the whole Hollywood set out of the equation.

Big major difference is people taking personal responsibility. Plus neighbor helping neighbor, community coming together and contributing where their needed.

New Orleans was a shocker to see how so many wouldn’t lift a finger to help themselves or their neighbors.

I remember my nephew with the national guard going in and trying to help some folks and they were shot at. They actually couldn’t help because the jerks were shooting at them.

The Red Cross from my community also loaded up and left hours after we heard of the damage Katrina had left. When they got there with all of their Red Cross credentials, they were not allowed in to help. They were held back for 12 hours. The county officials were the blockers. They were told if they snuck in they would be arrested. They did finally sneak in. Someone that knew the area showed them another way in.

Then I think of Shawn Penn making his pitiful moment of shame. He said he was going in to rescue people, and what did we see by the MSM? Shawn Penn in the boat, little did we know the boat he was going to use to rescue people had no room in it because it was loaded down with all of the equipment to film his heroism. How do we know that? By the pictures others took of him and [the boat] loaded down with equipment.

I heard a man on a commercial today talking a how hard he works on his farm and how his hands are always dirty (from dirt). He said his hands are dirty but his consequence is not.

I live in the armpit of america-Pacific NW, an eco friendly area that fouls quicker than a 350 lb. enviromaniacs a-pit treated with bio-degradeable anti-perspirant. I’m more concerned not about the next major earthquake as I am about the locals in the days following. A good tsunami might clean things up real nice ’round here.

Good to hear that.

My brother is a fireman that drew the lucky ticket down to the swelter post Katrina. He mainly was in the Alabama area where all the floating casinos ended up on shore. That area had many pro 2nd amendment signs up/VERY little looting and lawlessness.

http://patdollard.com/2008/03/americas-blacks-were-owed-you-arent/

There are many white people like this, too, but it’s more of a problem for the blacks because of reason two:

The so-called black leadership, who have made fortunes blaming everyone but themselves. If the lives of black people improve, they miss out on the gravy train. No one gives a shit about the middle-class, after all. Therefore, anyone attempting to change the poisonous entitlement culture is viciously attacked, ESPECIALLY OTHER BLACKS. Look at the assaults on Bill Cosby, Clarence Thomas, and so on.

Hard working, honest black people who lift themselves out of the gutter are considered traitors. I’ve known plenty of black kids who grew up in middle class families (yes, families: mom, dad, and kids living together, with at least one wage earner) fuck up their lives in a horribly misguided effort to ‘keep it real’.

As Chris Rock said, “They’re keeping it real alright. Real DUMB!”

Basically, it’s a recipe for a multi-generational disaster. Take away the ‘Great Society’ bullshit, and people will have to leave the projects and get jobs, where they’ll quickly find that they can live much better lives in far nicer neighborhoods if they get off their asses and work. As they learn how to take care of themselves, they’ll find that the ‘Black Leadership’ is only holding them down.

Or, a new crop of leaders might inspire the masses to improve their lives. Considering that the latest messiah, Barack, is basically Jesse Jackson with better PR, I won’t hold my breath. Anyone advocating people learn to take care of themselves is branded a heretic and exiled from the herd.

on the topic of the hurricane our murder rate in the city dropped as texas city murder rate sky rocketed

If N.O is the smelly armpit of the nation; the midwest is it’s blood, sinew and guts.

New Orleans = The best demonstration of the failure of Johnson’s “Great Society”

I concur 150%.