No Ice At The North Pole
BULLSHIT! This algore Global Warming shit is getting out of hand.
From yesterday:
Global Warming - Or Simply Massive Under Sea Volcanoes?
By Steve Connor, Science Editor
Friday, 27 June 2008 The Independent
Polar scientists reveal dramatic new evidence of climate change
It seems unthinkable, but for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year.
The disappearance of the Arctic sea ice, making it possible to reach the Pole sailing in a boat through open water, would be one of the most dramatic – and worrying – examples of the impact of global warming on the planet. Scientists say the ice at 90 degrees north may well have melted away by the summer.
“From the viewpoint of science, the North Pole is just another point on the globe, but symbolically it is hugely important. There is supposed to be ice at the North Pole, not open water,” said Mark Serreze of the US National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado.
If it happens, it raises the prospect of the Arctic nations being able to exploit the valuable oil and mineral deposits below these a bed which have until now been impossible to extract because of the thick sea ice above.
Seasoned polar scientists believe the chances of a totally ice-free North Pole this summer are greater than 50:50 because the normally thick ice formed over many years at the Pole has been blown away and replaced by huge swathes of thinner ice formed over a single year.
This one-year ice is highly vulnerable to melting during the summer months and satellite data coming in over recent weeks shows that the rate of melting is faster than last year, when there was an all-time record loss of summer sea ice at the Arctic.
“The issue is that, for the first time that I am aware of, the North Pole is covered with extensive first-year ice – ice that formed last autumn and winter. I’d say it’s even-odds whether the North Pole melts out,” said Dr Serreze.
Each summer the sea ice melts before reforming again during the long Arctic winter but the loss of sea ice last year was so extensive that much of the Arctic Ocean became open water, with the water-ice boundary coming just 700 miles away from the North Pole.
The diminishing polar ice BULLSHIT Video Here
Courtesy of NOAA / NESDIS Center for Satellite Applications and Research
This meant that about 70 per cent of the sea ice present this spring was single-year ice formed over last winter. Scientists predict that at least 70 per cent of this single-year ice – and perhaps all of it – will melt completely this summer, Dr Serreze said.
“Indeed, for the Arctic as a whole, the melt season started with even more thin ice than in 2007, hence concerns that we may even beat last year’s sea-ice minimum. We’ll see what happens, a great deal depends on the weather patterns in July and August,” he said.
Ron Lindsay, a polar scientist at the University of Washington in Seattle, agreed that much now depends on what happens to the Arctic weather in terms of wind patterns and hours of sunshine. “There’s a good chance that it will all melt away at the North Pole, it’s certainly feasible, but it’s not guaranteed,” Dr Lindsay said.
The polar regions are experiencing the most dramatic increase in average temperatures due to global warming and scientists fear that as more sea ice is lost, the darker, open ocean will absorb more heat and raise local temperatures even further. Professor Peter Wadhams of Cambridge University, who was one of the first civilian scientists to sail underneath the Arctic sea ice in a Royal Navy submarine, said that the conditions are ripe for an unprecedented melting of the ice at the North Pole.
“Last year we saw huge areas of the ocean open up, which has never been experienced before. People are expecting this to continue this year and it is likely to extend over the North Pole. It is quite likely that the North Pole will be exposed this summer – it’s not happened before,” Professor Wadhams said.
There are other indications that the Arctic sea ice is showing signs of breaking up. Scientists at the Nasa Goddard Space Flight Centre said that the North Water ‘polynya’ – an expanse of open water surrounded on all sides by ice – that normally forms near Alaska and Banks Island off the Canadian coast, is much larger than normal. Polynyas absorb heat from the sun and eat away at the edge of the sea ice.
Inuit natives living near Baffin Bay between Canada and Greenland are also reporting that the sea ice there is starting to break up much earlier than normal and that they have seen wide cracks appearing in the ice where it normally remains stable. Satellite measurements collected over nearly 30 years show a significant decline in the extent of the Arctic sea ice, which has become more rapid in recent years.
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June 27th, 2008 at 7:59 amNow get our ass up there and drill for oil.
AT the same time, the south pole ice is increasing, though
June 27th, 2008 at 8:01 amone would expect that the gas, carbon dioxide, on which all things
are blamed, and upon which all life is dependent, would distribute
uniformly. Gases are good at that.
This guy is good at this stuff:
http://strata-sphere.com/blog
There may be other explanations.
Now why would it be bad if the North Pole had no ice in summer?
Can’t actually think of a reason.
Ice, melting in the sea will not raise sea levels. If you are unsure
make yourself a big whiskey and ice tumbler and wait for the ice to melt.
What won’t happen is your that drink overflows.
It’ll just sit there and stay the same, because
ice is neutrally buoyant in water.
We might have huge underwater volcanoes as strata documents,
or we might be coming out of the mini ice age that started around
1500, before which Green-Land was green and inhabited.
Is this a problem?
I think not.
This just in, Santa has requested evacuation of the Elves by the UN. Scientists speculate that with the interruption of work at Santa’s shop, that Christmas may have to be canceled this year. Santa was quoted as saying, “I just don’t know how we can get all the toys made now.”
June 27th, 2008 at 8:12 amCelayin, a spokesman for the elves, has lamented, “we’re just seeing our livelihood taken away, I don’t know how we’re going to make it.” “After centuries of toy making, I don’t know what we’re going to do”………..
If the sea ice is going away so much how come the sea levels havnt risen?
June 27th, 2008 at 8:18 amOnce again, a hysteria story. There’s never more than a 50% chance there will be more ice, according to a scientist I heard today. I heard they only put out this story to 1.) induce mass hysteria 2.) chum for grant money to “study” the problem.
June 27th, 2008 at 8:32 amYou stole my thunder. Since that is international ‘waters’, and it won’t take long for the polar bears to drown, we (and probably Russia, China and India) could be pumping some oil soon.
Ice is pesky. Oil platforms can shift when ice melts and get buried (or crushed) when ice forms … so not having to deal with ice …. wait for it … is nice.
June 27th, 2008 at 8:33 am“It seems unthinkable, but for the first time in human history, ice is on course to disappear entirely from the North Pole this year.”
Wow, we have recorded all of human history for reference! Where do they keep those books?
Look at the graph included with the article at the independant’s website, it shows the ice coverage as it normally drops in warming weather. The current year shows more ice than last year and is following the annual trend.
The graph they used shows more ice than last year when the ice did not disappear.
Less ice than the average, but what direction is that trending? And why not go further back than 1979? Does it not show what they want to be seen?
Kill these fuckers.
June 27th, 2008 at 8:42 amAnyone know what happened to that gomer who tried to sail across Russia’s northern coast last year to the Bering Sea? The last I heard, he was trapped in pack ice and the Russians were offering to save his ship for some colossal amount of money.
He had heard that the ocean would be free of ice from his TV, and was out to “raise awareness of global warming”.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:24 amCool, see you later California!
June 27th, 2008 at 1:00 pmThe USS SKATE (SSN 578) was the first vessel ever to surface at the North Pole, when on March 17, 1959 she surfaced there to conduct memorial services for the renowned Arctic explorer Sir Hubert Wilkins.
For photos, check:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://library.osu.edu/sites/exhibits/nautilus/images/wilkins35_5_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://library.osu.edu/sites/exhibits/nautilus/afterwards.html&h=558&w=700&sz=60&hl=en&start=8&tbnid=DiEDKrBbGhemRM:&tbnh=112&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3DUSS%2BSKATE%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
June 27th, 2008 at 6:18 pmThe shit has been out of hand see this, http://michellemalkin.com/2008/06/26/congress-tasks-intelligence-community-to-work-on-greatest-threat-facing-america/
June 27th, 2008 at 8:34 pmWho the fuck in this party that runs two thirds of our gubment gets off assigning valuable resources during war time for this shit.
Then they have the temerity to blame the Executive branch of taking their eye’s off the ball in Afghanistan. Who exactly took our resources eyeballs off the ball for this tripe?
Ladies and Gemtlemen, I give you, your dhimmicrap party.
Apologize for language in last post.
June 27th, 2008 at 8:35 pmKinda PO’ed.
Couldja tell?
Boo Boo:
“…chum for grant money to “study” the problem.”
I agree. These asshats don’t believe their own BS for a second. Their out of grant money and need an infusion.
June 27th, 2008 at 8:45 pmApologize for language in last post.
Kinda PO’ed.
Couldja tell?
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No apologizes necessary. Be yourself here. Tell us how you feel. BTW - I thought it was a great post.
June 27th, 2008 at 8:51 pmHope Santa has shorts.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
First Team Signaleer
June 28th, 2008 at 3:21 amLet ‘er rip and enjoy the rage, we welcome it here.
can the military build a device that would only make global warming believers and liberals evaporate? hopefully they will get DARPA or some agency working on that soon
June 28th, 2008 at 5:30 am“…for the first time in human history…”
This is total BS. In addition to the sub surfacing in 1957,
here’s another in 2004:
http://www.athropolis.com/news/submarines.htm
Nuclear Submarines Surface in Arctic
British and Americans Rendezvous at Pole (with pix)
“The Arctic was a little less tranquil on April 19, 2004 when the American fast-attack submarine USS Hampton and the Royal Navy submarine HMS Tireless popped up at the “top of the world”. They surfaced at the North Pole through two naturally occurring leads or “gaps” in the ice about 1/2 mile / .8 km from each other.”
“On a previous US submarine mission, the crew watched in amazement as a curious bear chewed the fin and external casing of their vessel.”
June 28th, 2008 at 10:13 amA man a plan a canal. Arctic Ocean.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:57 amI thought the USS Nautilus, in 1957 measured polar ice thickness. How thick was it then?
August 3rd, 2008 at 10:26 am