Breaking: Georgia President Signs “Flawed” Cease Fire Delivered By Condi, Condi Tells Russians That Means “Get The Fuck Out Now!” - Video Added
The US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, and Georgia’s president, Mikheil Saakashvili, in Tbilisi.
Georgia’s president, Mikheil Saakashvili said today that he had signed a ceasefire deal with Russia, ending hostilities over the breakaway region of South Ossetia, as he accused the Russian forces of using cluster bombs, weapons of mass destruction and ethnic cleansing.
In a press conference alongside the US secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice, he also accused Russia of plotting an invasion after Nato denied Georgia membership in April. This advance planning had allowed Russia to send 1,200 tanks into Georgia within a matter of hours, said the president, who blamed the west for failing to intervene.
An emotional and angry Saakashvili said: “We are today looking evil directly in the eye.” He said Georgia would “never ever” reconcile itself to any occupation of its territory by Russia and said a “durable mechanism” was needed to deter Russia or it would attack again.
Rice, who was in Tibilisi to support Georgia after it was routed by Russia, said Russian forces must leave Georgia immediately now that the ceasefire had been signed.
“Our most urgent task today is the immediate and orderly withdrawal of Russian armed forces and the return of those forces to Russia,” said Rice. She added: “This is no longer 1968.”
The Russian president was prepared to sign the ceasefire, according to Rice, who said international observers could move in within days to be followed by a “robust” peacekeeping force.
Earlier Russia said that South Ossetia and Abkhazia were unlikely to want to remain part of the Georgia as the war of words between Washington and Moscow grew more heated.
The Russian president, Dmitry Medvedev, said he respected the principle of territorial integrity but “after what happened, it’s unlikely Ossetians and Abkhazians will ever be able to live together with Georgia in one state”.
In Washington, George Bush demanded Moscow honour a commitment to get out of Georgia, declaring the country had chosen democracy and “we won’t cast them aside”. He said Georgia’s integrity and sovereignty must be respected and that a contentious relationship with the US was not in Moscow’s best interests. “Bullying and intimidation are not acceptable ways to conduct foreign policy in the 21st century,” Bush said.
Medvedev, speaking in the Black Sea resort of Sochi where he had talks with the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, said: “If someone continues to attack our citizens , our peacekeepers, we will of course respond in just the same way we have responded. There should be no doubt about this.”
Moscow appeared to raise the temperature further by saying Poland’s agreement to host a US missile defence system exposed it to attack. Colonel General Anatoly Nogovitsyn, deputy head of the Russian general staff, was quoted by the news agency Interfax as saying: “Poland, by deploying (the system), is exposing itself to a strike – 100%.”
Earlier, he had reiterated Russia’s warning that placing missile defence structures in Poland and the Czech Republic would bring an unspecified military response.
Poland agreed last night to station interceptor rockets at missile silos as part of a US missile defence shield in the Baltic region.
The US says the shield is aimed at Iran, but Russia’s Nato ambassador, Dmitry Rogozin, told Reuters news agency that “the fact that this was signed in a period of very difficult crisis in the relations between Russia and the United States over the situation in Georgia shows that of course the missile defence system will be deployed not against Iran but the strategic potential of Russia”.
Merkel said some of Russia’s actions against Georgia over South Ossetia had been “disproportionate” and Russian troops should withdraw from central areas in Georgia. Washington has warned that the fighting could set back Moscow’s relations with the west for years, but has ruled out engaging militarily in the region.
Rice’s visit came after the US sent military transport planes with humanitarian and medical supplies to Georgia, coupled with a warning from Bush to Russia not to obstruct the aid effort.
Earlier today Moscow’s forces remained deep in Georgian territory well outside the disputed regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Russian troops were still blocking the entrance to Gori, which sits on Georgia’s main east-west road, although they allowed in some humanitarian supplies.
Saakashvili, warned that “Russia’s invasion of Georgia strikes at the heart of western values”. In an article for the Washington Post, reprinted in today’s Guardian, he said: “If the international community allows Russia to crush our democratic independent state, it will be giving carte blanche to authoritarian governments everywhere.”
Russia has dismissed western insistence that Georgia’s territorial integrity forms the basis of any settlement of the conflict. The Kremlin’s stance has fuelled fears that it is determined to annex South Ossetia and Abkhazia.
Human Rights Watch said today it had collected evidence of Russian warplanes using cluster bombs against civilians in Georgia. Military aircraft killed at least 11 civilians and injured dozens of others in Gori and the village of Ruisi on Tuesday, the group said. This was denied by the Russian general staff.
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I would love to see Condi, motorcade down the road .
and hand that signed Agreement to the Russian Comand!.
And stand there until they pull Back!
August 15th, 2008 at 8:59 amFuck Putin.
August 15th, 2008 at 8:59 amStand up now or get down on all fours.
Did you hear what she said?
She said the “G-7″ … NOT the “G-8″ … and went on to stress the meeting of NATO in a couple days … and the ‘discussion’ those nations will have about this ’situation’?
I am hoping NATO grows a pair and immediately boots out Russia …
Not only that, but IF the U.N. wants any credibility whatsoever, they should, at the very least, threaten to boot Russia from their failed organization.
And NOW I am hearing, via Rush Limbaugh’s radio broadcast, Russia has threatened nuclear reaction to Poland’s agreement with the US for missile defense system???
Blackmail?? Fucking blackmail???
Oh, and a reporter stood up and asked something to the effect of, ‘How is the USA going to guarantee the EU nations will be safe and blah-blah-blah …’
I’m screaming at the TV, ‘The EU nations need to get the fuck off their fat asses and get involved in this, damn it all to fucking hell!!! … WWI and WWII … NOT gonna fucking happen again!!!’
Is anyone else fucking pissed at the EU’s lip-zipping in all of this?
Fucking asshole cowards!!!
August 15th, 2008 at 9:15 am“Did you hear what she said?”
I watched the news conference.
I haven’t been that ashamed of my country in some time.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4534358.ece
And fuck the appeasing EU pricks.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:23 amCondi’s only ’strength’ seems to be delivering “flawed ceasefires”.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:39 amthis shit goes down in the EU’s backyard and the only one with balls enough to go over there and do anything is a woman? and all the way from America? yeah i would say the European Union and the United Nations are pretty well worthless at this point.
Im sitting here right now wondering if we’re ALL sitting back while ANOTHER genocide takes place. history means nothing to anyone it seems.
August 15th, 2008 at 9:53 amEuro governments continue to suck big time, that is why our ancestors left that freaking continent.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:10 amAlways an excuse, can’t possibilly stand up for right vs. wrong.
Always have to look to the U.S. to take charge and then have the nerve to criticize us.
NATO is useless. Gather together the few who have courage and run with that.
Stop the Russian invasions.
Putin sucks.
just watched the piece on ball less, convicted thief, Sandy Burglar making the decsission NOT to let the CIA whack Osoma, pre 911. Now, are we going to a republican verision of a similar story? Gotta do what ya gotta do.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:30 amCondi has been sub-pathetic as SoS…
August 15th, 2008 at 10:33 amNot only should they kick the reds out of Nato, they shouldn’t let the friggin french back-in. Sarko fcked Georgia and us, no two ways about it. The proper thing to have done was to send the Poles to negotiate for Georgia, not only can they not stand the Russians, they’d have run ringers around the bastards at the negotiating table.
Jayzuz I’m sick of the panty-waist bs dipshit(go ahead and screw-us)-lunacy that gets called diplomacy.
August 15th, 2008 at 10:52 amOK fuck the EU pricks, just that you also forgot to fuck the US pricks, then fuck the US pricks :
http://www.turkishweekly.net/comments.php?id=2959
from the times
“Unlike Serbia, Georgia has not been conducting a campaign of “ethnic cleansing” against the people of these provinces.”
Did Serbia “Really” was conducting an “ethnic cleansing” ?
according the last investigations, NO !!! Though the US-EU pricks said so when it was question of bombing the Serbs
“It was a great Frenchman, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, who founded the modern Olympic movement on the famous principle that “the important thing is not winning but taking part”.”
kinda weird to make the parallele, taking part ? OK the US-EU pricks were eager to make business with these new born capitalist countries, though it would have been then accurated in the nineties to think of their future as nations,like a Marshal plan, no, only businesses prevailed ; I am afraid it’s a bit late , and the pricks arguments have become weak, big bear has became fat and is no longer afraid of defending his cavern.
August 15th, 2008 at 11:35 amWe are sick-and-damn-tired of the USA being spit on and mocked as ‘the world police’ … and then have those same people demand how the fuck WE are going to protect them when an imminent threat is just over the event horizon …
The EU needs to get the fuck off their thumbs up their asses, stand up and tell Russia to back the fuck off …
I really don’t give two fucks if the EU is ‘zipping it’ for fear of pissing off Russia who pisses the EU their oil/natural gas supplies … I really don’t
We went to war in two Arab countries simultaneously, being told the “Arab street” would explode … and our oil coming from OPEC’s Arab nations would be shut-off.
At some fucking point you just have to DO IT!
Now, you know gaddamn well if Russia attacked the EU countries the USA would fucking storm in there … AGAIN! …
How-the-fuck-ever … I for one do NOT want our troops storming into fucking radioactive clouds …
DO SOMETHING!
August 15th, 2008 at 11:44 amyeah, OK, but seems that your not doing much in this case, except big words
August 15th, 2008 at 11:50 amAmen.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:12 pmyeah, OK, but seems that your not doing much in this case, except big words
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I don’t even hear as much as THAT coming out of the EU …
But you just sit there … AGAIN … and let things ‘take their course’ …
August 15th, 2008 at 12:16 pmDrill, August is a dead month, vacations
August 15th, 2008 at 12:20 pmDrill, August is a dead month, vacations
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Oh!
Good Sweet Jesus H. Christ!
I rest my case …
August 15th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
hey that’s a sacrilege
August 15th, 2008 at 12:32 pmAugust is a dead month, vacations.
is that really the official excuse? Russia can run all over another country, nobody says a damn thing except the US and thats the attitude? eh fuck it, its vacation season.
thats pretty damn sorry.
if our “allies” dont help us with this situation then i would say screw all of them from now on. one of them gets attacked and America will not be to the rescue like past conflicts. We’ll just go on vacation.
sorry but this whole thing has me so freakin pissed off right now and apparently there is no easy solution. There will have to be a consensus from a few nations who decide to stand up, find their balls and say not this time. we are not going to let Russia get away with this. like people should have said when Hitler first started his conquest prior to world war 2.
History seems to mean nothing to anyone these days. Yeah just go ahead Russia and telegraph your fucking punch, we’ll all just sit here and watch you.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:36 pmfranchie -
I’ll take my chances.
August 15th, 2008 at 12:39 pmKurt, precisely if the crisis occured in August, it’s because these 2 belligerants knew that the attention would wether foccuses on the OG and or onvacations for the EU countries at least.
the circonstances and the motives were different for Hitler
August 15th, 2008 at 1:18 pmFranchie
I understand that. but at what point do they come off of vacation and deal with a crisis?
and i know the motives were different with Hitler but in my opinion they should be treated equally. a tyrant is a tyrant.
and yeah the circumstances were different because Russia isnt attacking France, yet. but if they are allowed to steamroll Georgia, Ukraine, Poland then where do they stop?
my point is that they are committing atrocities. doesnt matter if its nazis or red army. this shit needs to stop and the entire west needs to be on board to stop it.
August 15th, 2008 at 1:35 pm{sigh} … Save your breath, bro …
August 15th, 2008 at 1:47 pmSarkozy shortened his vacations, apparently that pleased none
The Russians are regaining their influence sphere states, we are not in their circonference of actions
Dunno what to do more for the moment, may-be organise a boycott on the russians goods like with Iran, that will be decided in the next days, I suppose. the emergency was stop harming the people
August 15th, 2008 at 1:49 pmI noticed that Georgia’s capital, Tblisi is only a hop, skip, and a jump from Armenia. That brings to mind the Armenian genocide by the Turks in 1915-1917. Over one million people died, some burned alive in churches. The EU has declared it’s illegal to deny the Jewish holocaust, but appeased the Turks by saying the Armenian massacre is fair game for debate.
Don’t you just love the EU?
August 15th, 2008 at 1:56 pmbillie, how right !
August 15th, 2008 at 2:17 pm“Don’t you just love the EU?”
No.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:19 pmAnd I’m pretty sickened that we paid for their liberation and continue to pay for their defense so they can afford their Socialist adventure.
sully, you don’t pay for us since 1967, though we are your remanent cause of hate
August 15th, 2008 at 2:22 pmfellas, i think its pointles to argue …the point is the ONLY european nations that support Georgia fully are those who have endured the commie rule and the GULAGs. ask Baltic residents, ask Poland, ask Czechs and Hungarians how they feel about the possible russian reign…the “old europe” is immobile, too lazy and too comforted, and acording to a statistic - getting too old, there will be no european army in the future, whats the current median age of an average european nation - 43-45?? whos gonna fight when time comes???and what about the fast-growing muslim population there??? I think McCain was right, NATO and UN needs to be dissolved and a new alliance has to be formed with the nations who arent gonna take shit from no one
August 15th, 2008 at 2:37 pmYou continue to appease and defend Russian actions.
The French defense budget has taken American presence in Europe into account in French expenditures since WWII.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:41 pmYou are right …
Only the countries on the Eastern side of the Iron Curtain, who lived and suffered decades under Soviet Communist rule … and not the West side of that Curtain that got fat and stupid on the tit of their socialist Nanny State governments … understand the looming threat at hand here.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:47 pmgiorgi im with you on that one
sully blah blah you argumenting for nuthin just for argumenting
The French defense budget has taken American presence in Europe into account in French expenditures since WWII.
that can’t be true, who were the people that tried to empech us to get the nuclear military power ?
since a decade we stopped the conscription, it’s now that the costs of a defense are high, technologies need less men but the material is overwelmmly expensive
August 15th, 2008 at 2:54 pmFrance/the EUroid’s have a BIG problem with August - a “dead month.”
They are going-to-go and really fuck-up and run into Vlad’s outstretched arms.
They, for reason’s unknown, to run to the idiot end of the scale.
August 15th, 2008 at 2:55 pmearig, too bad, it keep raining though I appreciate your sense of “a-propos”
August 15th, 2008 at 3:02 pmcan we ignore this self-important whining
by the way i was suppose to have a vacation too, so fucking what? nobody consulted me before starting a war… gosh , those 2 beliigerents HAD to start a war during the august…french going vacationing.. whuuut? let’s start a war …. i sense an international conspiracy to fuck up a vacation season
August 15th, 2008 at 3:21 pmYeah, it’s true about the European four-week vacation. In Norway, almost everyone owns a cabin or two and they take off for a holiday this time of year. The Russians have their cabins, also, and major cities become ghost towns.
How many are reading the newspapers or watching TV? That’s a good question as most European cabins are rather rustic and many don’t have electricity. However, the recent decade with its economic boom and rush to materialism may have started a “keeping up with the Jones” attitude. Socialists are actually very competitive with each other. For all we know, the Laplanders are lounging in front of flat screen TVs.
August 15th, 2008 at 3:36 pmSully:
We must have seen different news conferences. Condi said:
“…Georgia has been attacked. Russian forces need to leave Georgia at once. The world needs to help Georgia maintain its sovereignty, its territorial integrity, and its independence. This is no longer 1968 and the invasion of Czechoslovokia when a great power invaded a small neighbor and overthrew its government. The free world will now have to wrestle with the profound implications of this Russian attack on its neighbor for security in the region and beyond.”
This isn’t all Condi said, of course, and I thought it was brilliant. Madeline Albright could have never carried this off. In the first place, she wouldn’t have believed it. In the second place, she would have sounded haughty and strident.
Condi’s a class act. If she has a fault, sometimes her voice is a little weak. Today I thought it was fine.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:11 amNicolas Sarkozy, The French President, is sitting in his office when his telephone rings.
“Hallo, Mr. Sarkozy!” a heavily accented voice said. “This is Paddy down at the Harp Pub in County Clare, Ireland. I am ringing to inform you that we are officially declaring War on you!”
“Well, Paddy,” Sarkozy replied, “This is indeed important news! How big is your army?”
“Right now,” says Paddy, after a moment’s calculation, “there is meself, me Cousin Sean, me next door neighbor Seamus, and the entire darts team from the pub. That makes eight!”
Sarkozy paused. “I must tell you Paddy that I have 100,000 men in my army waiting to move on my command.”
“Begorra!” says Paddy. “I’ll have to ring you back…”
Sure enough, the next day, Paddy calls again. “Mr. Sarkozy, the War is still on. We have managed to get us some infantry equipment!”
“And what equipment would that be Paddy?” Sarkozy asks.
“Well, we have two combines, a bulldozer, and Murphy’s farm tractor.”
Sarkozy sighs, amused. “I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 6,000 tanks and 5,000 armored personnel carriers. Also, I have increased my army to 150,000 since we last spoke.”
“Saints preserve us!” says Paddy. “I’ll have to get back to you.”
Sure enough, Paddy rings again the next day. “Mr. Sarkozy, the war is still on! We have managed to get ourselves airborne! We have modified Jackie McLaughlin’s ultra-light with a couple of shotguns in the cockpit, and four boys from the Shamrock Bar have joined us as well!”
Sarkozy was silent for a minute and then cleared his throat. “I must tell you, Paddy, that I have 100 Bombers and 200 fighter planes. My military bases are surrounded by laser-guided, surface-to-air missile sites. And since we last spoke, I have increased my army to 200,000!”
“Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!” says Paddy, “I will have to ring you back.”
Sure enough, Paddy calls again the next day. “Top o’ the mornin’, Mr. Sarkozy! I am sorry to inform you that we have had to call off the war.”
“Really? I am sorry to hear that,” says Sarkozy. “Why the sudden change of heart?”
“Well,” says Paddy, “we had a long chat over a few pints of Guinness and decided there is no way we can feed 200,000 French prisoners….”
August 16th, 2008 at 12:16 amAZ, that’s a bad scenario
look I really prefer the Bush-Sarko’s one :
hi Nico, how ya doing ?
fine and you ?
well, it could be better…
what about ?
Those bloody Georgians are putting us in a deep shit
what ? I thought you had them in control
I too, but that idiot president cheated us
how that ?
he took upon his infatuated ego to attack the Ossetians, imagine the shit…
yeah, I bet that Vlad jumped on the fly
that’s right, the problem is that he wants to subjuggate all the nest now
really ?
yes, he is furious, BTW, can you help me ?
sure, what should I do ?
you know Putin, he won’t stop if we don’t begg him for, so I have thought that you could go over there to make the point
yeah, what should I tell him ?
first, to stop harming the people of Georgia, you know how I care for them
yes, I’ll do that, do you have any more request ?
uh, find a way that would be acceptable for our both friends
yes, I understand
most of all, say we don’t want an escalation, he, I don’t want to be held for responsable of the next WW3, just at the end of my mendate
I see, not a nice perspective to appreciate a rancher life
ya all understood my friend, so I favor you to save our( image,
OK Dubbleiu, you can count on me, I’ll send you an every-day texto report of my travel there
OK, please, Im looking forwards, god luck Niko
thanks, don’t forget to pray, we’ll need it
… to be continued
August 16th, 2008 at 5:55 amOkkiii, you might want to know what was my base for this probable scenario :
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/255/story/47631.html
August 16th, 2008 at 6:36 ambillie:
I suppose we’re forced to wait and see what effect Condi’s grand eloquence has on the russian bear, eh?
August 16th, 2008 at 10:26 amSo far…. nothing.
ROFLMAO!!!
August 16th, 2008 at 10:34 amI bet that please you, revisiting history like a negationnist is your speciality
August 16th, 2008 at 1:03 pmlmao…. all of france was a prisoner of the nazis
August 16th, 2008 at 1:16 pmmonsieur est sur l’offensive je vois LMAO
August 16th, 2008 at 1:30 pmfranChe - translation
mister is on the offensive I see LMAO
She forgets where she is
August 16th, 2008 at 1:33 pmOK, I got a supporter,
I understand the Underground’ stories, that’s what I was saying
August 16th, 2008 at 1:36 pm