Condi Sorta Declares War On Russia
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Monday that Russia is playing a “very dangerous game” with the U.S. and its allies and warned that NATO would not allow Moscow to win in Georgia, destabilize Europe or draw a new Iron Curtain through it.
Where’s Ronald Reagan when we need him?Wow. Just…wow. Growing up in the 60’s and 70’s it was “The Russians” this and “The Russians” that, and I think to allay my childhood fears of “Duck and Cover” and a nuclear nightmare, my Grandpa would say to me (we were pretty close, me and him) that the Soviet Union would crumble from within.
When that actually happened, I thought, “cool.”When I became a minister in the 90’s, I hung out with other ministers and lay-pastors and many of them were always talking about end-times prophecies etc etc…a lot of end-times prophecies, according to many evangelical eschatological trains of thought, had to do with Russia coming down from the North and attacking.
But I couldn’t see how that was possible, since the USSR had become so weak.
Wow. Just wow…
Pictured above: Russian President Vladimir Putin speaks during the meeting of the NATO-Russia Council in the Palace of the Parliament at the NATO Summit in Bucharest April 4, 2008.
BRUSSELS, Belgium - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Monday that Russia is playing a “very dangerous game” with the U.S. and its allies and warned that NATO would not allow Moscow to win in Georgia, destabilize Europe or draw a new Iron Curtain through it.
On her way to an emergency NATO foreign ministers meeting on the crisis, Rice said the alliance would punish Russia for its invasion of the Georgia and deny its ambitions by rebuilding and fully backing Georgia and other Eastern European democracies.
“We have to deny Russian strategic objectives, which are clearly to undermine Georgia’s democracy, to use its military capability to damage and in some cases destroy Georgian infrastructure and to try and weaken the Georgian state,” she said.
“We are determined to deny them their strategic objective,” Rice told reporters aboard her plane, adding that any attempt to recreate the Cold War by drawing a “new line” through Europe and intimidating former Soviet republics and ex-satellite states into submission would fail.
“We are not going to allow Russia to draw a new line at those states that are not yet integrated into the trans-Atlantic structures,” she said, referring to Georgia and Ukraine, which have not yet joined NATO or the European Union but would like to.
Rice could not say what NATO would eventually decide to do to make its position clear but said the alliance would speak with one voice “to clearly indicate that we are not accepting a new line.”
At the same time, she said that by flexing its military muscle in Georgia as well as elsewhere, including the resumption of Cold War-era strategic bomber patrols off the coast of Alaska, Russia was engaged in high-stakes brinksmanship that could backfire.
This “is a very dangerous game and perhaps one the Russians want to reconsider,” Rice said of the flights that began again with frequency about six months ago. “This is not something that is just cost-free. Nobody needs Russian strategic aviation along America’s coast.”
At Tuesday’s meeting, the NATO ministers will consider a range of upcoming activities planned with Russia—from military exercises to ministerial meetings—and decide case-by-case at the meeting Tuesday whether to go ahead or cancel each.
They will also discuss support for a planned international monitoring mission in the region and a package of support to help Georgia rebuild infrastructure damaged in its devastating defeat at the hands of the Russian armed forces.
And, she suggested that Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, who signed an E.U.-backed cease-fire brokered by the French, may be unable to exert power behind the scenes against his powerful predecessor, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, or the Russian military.
She said she thought the French would be seeking “an explanation from the Russians for why the Russian president either won’t or can’t keep his word.”
“It didn’t take that long for the Russian forces to get in and it really shouldn’t take that long for them to get out,” Rice said.
(AP)
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“…NATO ministers will consider a range of upcoming activities planned with Russia—from military exercises to ministerial meetings—and decide case-by-case at the meeting Tuesday whether to go ahead or cancel each….”
>Seriously now Condi…. WTF???
“…the French would be seeking “an explanation from the Russians…”
>LMAO
August 18th, 2008 at 12:58 pmshe said, referring to Georgia and Ukraine, which have not yet joined NATO or the European Union but would like to.
She said she thought the French would be seeking “an explanation from the Russians for why the Russian president either won’t or can’t keep his word.
isn’t she considered as the SPECIALIST for Russians policiy affairs
why then are the Americans still continue to pay her training in russian language
Sarko doesn’t even speak english, I bet he can’t also speak russian
August 18th, 2008 at 1:28 pmWow imagine that BRAC coming back to bite US in the Ass.
Another ignored History lesson.
August 18th, 2008 at 1:29 pmIts all about money. Would they gain or lose money if they did this or that with Russia.
August 18th, 2008 at 5:15 pm“It didn’t take that long for the Russian forces to get in and it really shouldn’t take that long for them to get out,” Rice said.
I’d like to be a fly on the wall at the high level U.S. Cabinet Meetings, not to mention the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
It’s definitely not a coincidence that Medvedev and Ahmadinijad are both boasting about their readiness for war. In fact, they sound like they’re salivating at the thought.
I’m wondering how the Israeli press is reporting on this.
August 18th, 2008 at 7:20 pmLet’s invade Cuba now! And kill that little piss ant Hugo and his boys while were at it!
August 18th, 2008 at 7:29 pmI am a veteran of the Cold War. I never came in from the cold
August 19th, 2008 at 1:06 amand I knew the Soviets would be back one day. I pulled the first brick out of the Berlin Wall. I understand Dmitry Medvedev. He is using Georgia as a pawn in a much wider and more sophisticated game of brinkmanship. Ronald Reagan would not have a clue. I know George would understand me and I would chide him for sending a woman to do a man’s job. This is about the last great oil field in the world. The Caspian sea. The Russians are testing us. If George sets up a Patriot system in Poland it will be able to shoot down Russian ICBM’s launched toward the west. I know the media has been feeding you nonsense about how it is to protect Europe from Iranian missiles. Do your Geography and get back to me. Saudi oil is running out. The USA invaded Iraq to secure the oil. Russia just shut down three major oil pipelines in Georgia that are supplied by Caspian Sea oil.
No doubt the Iranians have agreed with the Russian to launch on Israel when the time comes. Israel is their only military competitor.
Are you getting the picture?
He who controls the Caspian Sea oil will eventually control the world. My perspective is based on my work during the height of the “Cold War”. I am proud to tell you that the Russians are not our enemy. Our enemy is our own greed and relentless need for more oil. Big SUV’s doing 16 mpg in the 21st Century. Do you see something wrong there? I do I used to burn up Beemers in my one liter Hillman Imp and it did 40 mpg.
My final comment is a thought of less brevity. It may have crossed your minds also. The ‘atomic clock’ just advanced to
ten seconds before midnight. I do not want to be the first
to sound alarmed. To be frank, we are dangerously close to the end game. Global Thermonuclear War.
Distance from Philadelphia to Boston: 267 Miles.
August 19th, 2008 at 1:15 amDistance from Georgia to Iran: 265 miles. Just consider how close it is.
Do you think Russia is building bases in Georgia, which is why Russia’s word today is “not a rapid pullout.” So what does this mean for the world given America’s interest in a war with Iran?
NATO should stay the hell out of there. NATO has no business there. USA should not piss Russia off. Americans are too arrogant to realize they are messing with the wrong people. Not Russia is ur problem. The muslims are the biggest thread to USA. IF NATO pisses Russia off, Russia will fight back. For some freaking reason USA thinks that they can win a possible war with Russia. Sorry to say that but that is total BULL***! Possible war b/n them 2 countries will not be lead with troops. Nuclear missiles will be flying over the Pacific and across the North Pole. Game over.
August 19th, 2008 at 4:37 amI would love to see trussian soldiers stretched far beyond the borders of the motherland getting food, coffee, love and humanitarian aid from Americans and Nato.
August 19th, 2008 at 5:33 amI don’t understand what you are talking about. Russians, muslims, oil …
August 19th, 2008 at 7:16 amJust think about China. They are not so good-natured as the Russian Bear. They are extremely aggressive. And they are very strong.
Bullshit.
August 19th, 2008 at 7:44 amwhat ever happened to that weird French Russian connection? Maybe France talking with Russia seems natural to me cause automatically think of Peter the great and the Triple Entente . Me thinks my preconceptions are a little dated…looks like the Russians are growing their beards back. Does Putin even speak a second language?
August 19th, 2008 at 9:45 amNATO is opening itself up for a counter-strike. Here’s the Russian plan: agree with George Bush.
Step 1: Encourage the US to build a missile system in Poland. It’s a great idea to spend a trillion dollars in Poland to defend the French and Germans against (??) Iranian missiles. This will guarantee that the French never run out of reasons to ridicule the US economy. It is a perfect plan to make the US dollar worth less than toilet paper compared to the Euro. Thanks George!
Step 2: Throw the G7 out of the G8. They’re all paupers now on energy compared to Russia, so they all need Russia more than Russia needs them. Let the Europeans freeze this winter and they’ll start up their own organization with Russia.
Step 3: Use the WTO to inflict further crushing economic disadvantage against the US. Duh, unless people forgot, WalMart buys all its stuff from China these days. Ain’t got no manufacturing in US no more and now even high tech depends on hiring math guys out of China, India and Russia. Let’s cut that off to make sure the US economy crumbles.
Step 4: Spend billions in Georgia instead of in the US. They need bridges and schools more than we do. Maybe if we spend enough they’ll rename their country “Georgia Bush” as a monument to the outgoing administration. At least that will leave one country that thinks of Condi as more than the Harriet Meir of diplomacy.
Step 5: Get Georgia into NATO right quick, and bring in Kurds and Sunnis and Shia and other hotheads too. This is a key part of the Russian plan to make NATO look like hypocritical nuts that keep getting each other into trouble.
August 19th, 2008 at 10:16 amhegelbot, you should know that since the triple entente, Napoleon tried to invade them, since then, they don’t make alliance with us, rather with the Germans, remember the evil axe…
also Boris Elsine and Clinton were 2 very good compères
as for Putin languages, german again, did ya know he was the KGB representant there, in another parallel world
though Condi does speak russian
tell me if you want more history recalls
August 19th, 2008 at 10:23 amthat’s a fuckin good question hegelbot, though you should know that since the triple entente, Napoleon tried to invade them, also the Crimea war ; since then, they don’t make alliance with us, rather with the Germans I must say, the evil axe… anyone ? also Boris Elsine and Clinton were 2 very good compères
as for Putin languages, german again, did ya know he was the KGB representant there, in another parallel world, of course ; though Condi still does speak russian
tell me if you want more history recalls
August 19th, 2008 at 10:28 amThinker,
though N°1 is erronned for us, we do have nuclear responses available, so this plan is rather for Poland, Tchekie, and … Germany, the hostel for Nato troops
August 19th, 2008 at 10:39 am“Does Putin even speak a second language?”
Obviously not French.
August 19th, 2008 at 10:49 ambut you do, that the trouble
August 19th, 2008 at 10:58 amMethinks “thinker” is channelling the sage of the Age Pat Buchanan…
http://townhall.com/columnists/PatrickJBuchanan/2008/08/19/who_started_cold_war_ii?page=full&comments=true
August 19th, 2008 at 11:34 amCan we bomb them, now?
August 20th, 2008 at 3:21 amhow the meanings in languages are not evident
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXn2QVipK2o&feature=related
August 20th, 2008 at 4:06 amthanks for the update…that is not my dog…lol
in our history books the triple entente is the alliance during world war I, which alliance is the triple entente in your history books, before napoleons invasion???
I will log that in my memory…no lingering Franco-Russian diplomatic connection.
August 20th, 2008 at 6:30 amIf pipelines were closed, we should send in our forces NOW,
August 20th, 2008 at 7:49 amand re-open them.
I agree with Sully.
BS!
And we need to take down Iran and Syria NOW, before Russia puts
their crap into them.
Dave M.
September 19th, 2008 at 5:17 amwe will be bombing the s***t out of you soon, ready to DIVE AND DUCK action?
so long, you dickhead, see ya in hell