Comments on: Evaluating Al-Qaida’s Nuclear Strategy http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/ The latest in policital news and the war in Iraq Fri, 9 Jan 2009 05:59:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Kurt(the infidel) http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244275 Kurt(the infidel) Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:14:45 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244275 This article gives AQ way too much credit for one thing. Saying they think strategically and sit around wondering if hitting the US with a nuke would be in their best interest. I dont believe they think like this for one second. even referring to clerics issuing religious fatwas and the fact that it hasnt been reissued in 5 years means they thought better of the idea. AQ is in no position right now to become picky or intellectual about their struggle. they are a group in serious trouble and have been defeated big time in one country already. Drill, you were right, this article is harmless but the thoughts raised in it are either naive or an attempt by some to downplay the threat. I would bet everything i own that AQ would use the bomb if they had one, and i dont believe they are sitting in a cave having round table discussions. This article gives AQ way too much credit for one thing. Saying they think strategically and sit around wondering if hitting the US with a nuke would be in their best interest. I dont believe they think like this for one second. even referring to clerics issuing religious fatwas and the fact that it hasnt been reissued in 5 years means they thought better of the idea.

AQ is in no position right now to become picky or intellectual about their struggle. they are a group in serious trouble and have been defeated big time in one country already.

Drill, you were right, this article is harmless but the thoughts raised in it are either naive or an attempt by some to downplay the threat.

I would bet everything i own that AQ would use the bomb if they had one, and i dont believe they are sitting in a cave having round table discussions.

]]> By: Steve in NC http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244276 Steve in NC Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:17:55 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244276 "This idea — that Osama bin Laden, his deputy Ayman al Zawahiri and other al-Qaida leaders are proceeding thoughtfully — is gaining attention in intelligence circles." >>That is because we have kicked their ass to Iraq and back to the 'stan. Also because much of the nation of Iraq has seen and rejected the inhuman savagery that is the calling card of alqueeda. In response to that ass kicking I see them needing the nukes more than ever. They want it and will use it ASAP. The rallied the masses when they hit the great satan hard on 9/11. Another even greater hit will help raise their stature in the arab world and help restore them in the eyes of the masses. How would we respond? We will want to but really cannot just nuke the hell out of the areas we think they are in. They likely know this. It will make the progress in Iraq come to a full stop. To me Iraq is proceeding nicely in the larger picture as envisioned, to have a progressive democracy in the middle of those dictatorships. We have helped empower the people of Iraq to own their own destiny and if we attack their 'people' with nukes we may lose most if not all we have gained. This is not 24 where we can hold a nuke against some nations leaders head and suddenly they help us. Re the comment: “Using a nuclear device in the U.S., the strategists within al-Qaida know, would cause such a backlash that it may not actually be in their strategic interest to do that right now,” Brachman says. I have always found humor in the 'big brain' crowd trying to place our conventional reasoning into their thought pattern. They are like a rabid dog loose in your town. You do not reason with it, thinking it will behave in the manner you wish if you give it a pig ear. You kill it as soon as possible. “This idea — that Osama bin Laden, his deputy Ayman al Zawahiri and other al-Qaida leaders are proceeding thoughtfully — is gaining attention in intelligence circles.”

>>That is because we have kicked their ass to Iraq and back to the ’stan. Also because much of the nation of Iraq has seen and rejected the inhuman savagery that is the calling card of alqueeda.
In response to that ass kicking I see them needing the nukes more than ever.

They want it and will use it ASAP. The rallied the masses when they hit the great satan hard on 9/11. Another even greater hit will help raise their stature in the arab world and help restore them in the eyes of the masses.

How would we respond? We will want to but really cannot just nuke the hell out of the areas we think they are in. They likely know this.

It will make the progress in Iraq come to a full stop. To me Iraq is proceeding nicely in the larger picture as envisioned, to have a progressive democracy in the middle of those dictatorships. We have helped empower the people of Iraq to own their own destiny and if we attack their ‘people’ with nukes we may lose most if not all we have gained.

This is not 24 where we can hold a nuke against some nations leaders head and suddenly they help us.

Re the comment:

“Using a nuclear device in the U.S., the strategists within al-Qaida know, would cause such a backlash that it may not actually be in their strategic interest to do that right now,” Brachman says.

I have always found humor in the ‘big brain’ crowd trying to place our conventional reasoning into their thought pattern.

They are like a rabid dog loose in your town. You do not reason with it, thinking it will behave in the manner you wish if you give it a pig ear. You kill it as soon as possible.

]]> By: RC http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244281 RC Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:25:52 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244281 Oh Goodie can't wait to have tea and brunch with them!! I'll convince them to change their 1400yr old ideology of death and destruction of Jews, Christians, Buddhist, Hindus, Black Muslims overnight. You know trade in their thermonuclear ambitions for more humble cave dwelling thermostats. Then we can give them new silky threads after I further convince them to turn down their new found warmth to heal the world's rising oceans; while I'm at it heck let's ask them kindly to inflate their tires and agree never to visit wounded Marines ever!! When all is said and done they can then kiss my ring and praise Obama-O-Great-One!! Obama-O.. // channeling Barry-Hussein-Obama Off.. No AQ = zero AQ ambitions or threats. Find em, smoke em, tear these raghead pukes new a-holes. :gun: :gun: Oh Goodie can’t wait to have tea and brunch with them!! I’ll convince them to change their 1400yr old ideology of death and destruction of Jews, Christians, Buddhist, Hindus, Black Muslims overnight. You know trade in their thermonuclear ambitions for more humble cave dwelling thermostats. Then we can give them new silky threads after I further convince them to turn down their new found warmth to heal the world’s rising oceans; while I’m at it heck let’s ask them kindly to inflate their tires and agree never to visit wounded Marines ever!! When all is said and done they can then kiss my ring and praise Obama-O-Great-One!! Obama-O..

// channeling Barry-Hussein-Obama Off..

No AQ = zero AQ ambitions or threats. Find em, smoke em, tear these raghead pukes new a-holes. :gun: :gun:

]]> By: One Shot http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244283 One Shot Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:26:42 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244283 They don't need "The Bomb" folks. All they need is several pounds of enriched uranium, steal or charter a plane, and detonate the plane at 20,000 feet upwind of a major US city. THAT is pretty much how they are going to do it. They don’t need “The Bomb” folks.

All they need is several pounds of enriched uranium, steal or charter a plane, and detonate the plane at 20,000 feet upwind of a major US city.

THAT is pretty much how they are going to do it.

]]> By: Steve in NC http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244300 Steve in NC Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:46:53 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244300 One Shot is on it. Simple, cheap and a very small footprint for intel to find. Box cutters took down the WTC. One Shot is on it. Simple, cheap and a very small footprint for intel to find.

Box cutters took down the WTC.

]]> By: BT http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244310 BT Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:02:04 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244310 :arrow: Steve in NC "They are like a rabid dog loose in your town. You do not reason with it, thinking it will behave in the manner you wish if you give it a pig ear. You kill it as soon as possible." Can't agree more. You don't hope you won't get bit this time, although you were bitten last time. You put the animal down before it can cause further harm. :arrow: Steve in NC
“They are like a rabid dog loose in your town. You do not reason with it, thinking it will behave in the manner you wish if you give it a pig ear. You kill it as soon as possible.”

Can’t agree more. You don’t hope you won’t get bit this time, although you were bitten last time. You put the animal down before it can cause further harm.

]]> By: drillanwr (Free Ramos and Compean, Then Drill For Oil!) http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244334 drillanwr (Free Ramos and Compean, Then Drill For Oil!) Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:52:56 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244334 :arrow: One Shot and Steve I agree ... Won't have to be a 'mushroon' cloud ... Just a highly toxic cloud of nuke debris scattered over a crowded and panicked city or two or three ... The WHOLE nation would react with a panic that just might mirror what has been seen in upside-down places such as post-hurricane New Orleans and post-trial riots on the West Coast ... Oh, and air traffic would once again be grounded indefinitely. :arrow: One Shot and Steve

I agree … Won’t have to be a ‘mushroon’ cloud …

Just a highly toxic cloud of nuke debris scattered over a crowded and panicked city or two or three …

The WHOLE nation would react with a panic that just might mirror what has been seen in upside-down places such as post-hurricane New Orleans and post-trial riots on the West Coast …

Oh, and air traffic would once again be grounded indefinitely.

]]> By: Lone Wolf http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244361 Lone Wolf Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:41:38 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-244361 :arrow: One Shot: Uranium, even enriched, is not very radioactive. You need a much more active element to make a "good" dirty bomb: http://www.fas.org/blog/ssp/2007/11/oh_no_not_another_uranium_dirt.php http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/nukes/non-proliferation%20and%20arms%20control/uraniumdirtybombs.html :arrow: One Shot:

Uranium, even enriched, is not very radioactive. You need a much more active element to make a “good” dirty bomb:
http://www.fas.org/blog/ssp/2007/11/oh_no_not_another_uranium_dirt.php
http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/nukes/non-proliferation%20and%20arms%20control/uraniumdirtybombs.html

]]> By: Elena. Saga Foundation http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-245126 Elena. Saga Foundation Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:32:34 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2008/08/evaluating-al-qaidas-nuclear-strategy/#comment-245126 Well, what Mr. Mowatt-Larssen forgets is that terrorists do not think the way we all think. Their mind psychologically is turned and twisted around and you can never know what will be the next move a terrorist. That is why it is so hard to disrupt terrorist organizations. There is so much unsecured nuclear material in the world, so many labs and research institutions have some quantities of weapons-grade uranium and yet, their security and monitoring system is poor. Another scenario often forgotten is a computer system collapse and as an outcome - a launch of a nuclear missile towards or from the US sight. Who can 100% guarantee that US, Russian or Chinese electronic systems are secured enough and there is no a computer genius there, who can break through the system? How about material (only 55 pounds of HEU = a soccer ball) get from Pakistan to al Qaeda hands and then to the US. A gun-type devise is not difficult to assemble, basic instructions are available on-line and US ports are not secured enough. If one can bring drugs, one can bring a little device as well. It is critical to talk about nuclear terrorism, promote global reduction of nuclear stockpiles,educate the general public, ask the D.C. decision makers to address the problem. In all that, however, one should not to exaggerated the issue, but think positive, creative and outside the bomb. Well, what Mr. Mowatt-Larssen forgets is that terrorists do not think the way we all think. Their mind psychologically is turned and twisted around and you can never know what will be the next move a terrorist. That is why it is so hard to disrupt terrorist organizations.
There is so much unsecured nuclear material in the world, so many labs and research institutions have some quantities of weapons-grade uranium and yet, their security and monitoring system is poor. Another scenario often forgotten is a computer system collapse and as an outcome - a launch of a nuclear missile towards or from the US sight. Who can 100% guarantee that US, Russian or Chinese electronic systems are secured enough and there is no a computer genius there, who can break through the system?
How about material (only 55 pounds of HEU = a soccer ball) get from Pakistan to al Qaeda hands and then to the US. A gun-type devise is not difficult to assemble, basic instructions are available on-line and US ports are not secured enough. If one can bring drugs, one can bring a little device as well.

It is critical to talk about nuclear terrorism, promote global reduction of nuclear stockpiles,educate the general public, ask the D.C. decision makers to address the problem. In all that, however, one should not to exaggerated the issue, but think positive, creative and outside the bomb.

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