Food Vs. Biofuel
“Get off fossil fuels and onto bio fuels???
Correct me if I am wrong …
“Fossil Fuels” formed from primitive/prehistoric plants and animals that decayed under the ground under great pressure over centuries and centuries of time (the energy and power of the Earth not costing anyone a penney or any further energy to convert into ‘fuel’) … instead of feeding primitive man in the area(s)?
“Bio Fuels are made from acres and acres of crops that either could have, or been replaced by crops that could have, gone to market to feed livestock and people … and have to be waited on to grow, harvest, transport, convert, transport …
Do not primitive/prehistoric plants and animals equal crops that grow and could feed livestock and people?
Can it not be said that “Fossil Fuel” = “Bio Fuels” ?????
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Oil is not exactly a renewable resource and that equals problems in the future. Still a good idea to get what we have here already or just hold off until everybody else is screwed
August 27th, 2008 at 12:43 pmWhen you consider that coal and other hydrocarbons can be turned into liquid fuels, the world has at least a 100 year supply. By then there might even be fuel cells which are lower enough in price that people can afford them.
I think it’s funny when car companies try selling electric cars, batteries not included.
August 27th, 2008 at 12:55 pmOk here’s all that needs to be said about biofuels
You’re stupid enough to use your food into gas?
August 27th, 2008 at 1:14 pmI mean what idiot came up with that idea. It’s gotta be the dumbest thing in the history of man kind.
Where did petroleum come from? From millions of years of decomposed matter that is STILL happening. It IS a renewable resource.
August 27th, 2008 at 1:54 pmLook, the Brazilians can do it and have a food crop to boot. Personally, I like solar since the amount of energy hitting the Earth every second via the Sun is enough to power everything we use for many many years. We just have to build the infrastructure which is getting cheaper all the time; BTW solar became viable at $40 barrel oil. I’m not saying we shouldn’t drill either, we need something before all these other systems get built.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:29 pmSolar is not viable, the only reason photovoltaic solar is utilized at all is the governement rebates and tax credits from fed, state and local gov. Solar energy is the most expensive form of energy production there is, literally more than 10 times the cost per KW of nuclear and that is including all the decomishing costs sometimes associated with nuclear power. It certainly warrants lots of research but right now it is a waste of dollars to expect to produce any reasonable sum of electricity.
In all likelyhood there is well over 100 years of petroleum still in the ground and I would hazard a guess that is only a fraction of what is really out there. The real solution is nuclear power and the French can be applauded on this one for leading the way on a sensible well thought out implimentation which includes streamlining the building process and recycling spent fuel rods/pellets. Our country should be ashamed, that we as the most technologically advanced nation in the world, are still so reliant on 19th century fuels. Another fine example of nuclear power is our own Navy. The entire greater San Diego metro area could be powered by the USS Reagan, which has San Diego as its home port, and BTW the Reagan would still have power left over.
I preach about this to my students and anyone else who will listen and I think we may be making some headway. Large scale biobfuels are the worst idea to come along in a very long time. If we converted all the avalable farm land in America to corn production for ethanol it would provide less than 15% of the fuel we use and every year we use more than the year before, thats called progress.
August 27th, 2008 at 2:50 pmI’m going to make a car that runs on dead muslims….
August 27th, 2008 at 3:33 pmThere should be a decent supply of them for a while.
I will let you know how it works out.
Tom in CO: It’s a renewable resource if you have millions of years to sit around and wait for it, eventually you are going to use up the stuff that is readily available. The rate of consumption is higher than the rate of production. Biofuels are not a good idea for now but they are there if we should run into serious trouble. Alternative fuel needs more development.
August 27th, 2008 at 4:24 pmTrue. Well I need to fill up
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August 27th, 2008 at 4:49 pmYes drill… fossil fuels ARE a bio-fuel.
The fact that there is no GOOD reason not to drill our own oil resources is the reason we hear so many BAD ‘reasons’ that we can’t.
The environazis killed nukes hoping to kill our economy and now they’re after oil. They don’t care about oil or “saving the planet”. It’s about controlling the populace, making us dependent upon the State.
Trying to discuss energy alternatives with a typical Dhimmi groupie is very much like trying to talk to a six year old about why the sky is blue.
August 27th, 2008 at 5:30 pmIt is a myth perpetuated by the enviro-commies that CO2 is bad for the atmosphere. Think of it this way, at one time all the carbon that is presently tied up in fossil fuels was circulating in the carbon cycle. Secondly people don’t realize it but CO2 is not only a principle building block for plants it can be more correctly viewed as plant food.
Everyone should go to http://www.oism.org/pproject/ and see what actual atmospheric scientists, chemists and physicists say about the temp and CO2 levels.
August 27th, 2008 at 10:20 pmProfessor Bill, not only our nuclear power can provide us energy, also each river has its own energy manufacture, mouths at sea where tides are large enough… some sites are private and sell their electricity to the national firm.
the bio fuel by us has no real success ; the agricultural soils are mainly devoted to produce food for our animals or us.
August 28th, 2008 at 1:50 amThe thing i dont understand is if the nearest biofuel gas station is 250 miles away from me(i researched it) then how is it fair for me to get raped at the grocery store every time i go? its ridiculous. almost everything we need is dependent on corn. bread, cows for food or milk. pork, chicken, flour that goes into alot of things. its just crazy.
August 28th, 2008 at 9:01 am