Libyan’s Kadhafi Warns ‘Arrogant’ Iran Of Military Humiliation
What what what???
August 5, 2008
TUNIS (AFP) — Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi on Tuesday warned “arrogant” Iran that it faces military humiliation on the scale of Iraq for its refusal to respond to western powers over a nuclear impasse.
“What Iran is doing stems simply from arrogance,” Kadhafi said during a visit to Tunisia after Tehran ignored another western deadline to accept an incentives package in exchange for full transparency on its nuclear drive.
Negotiators from Britain, China, France, Germany, Russia and the United States — who suspect Iran is seeking to build nuclear weapons capability — have scheduled a conference call for Wednesday as the crisis deepens.
“In the event of a decision against Iran, this country will suffer the same outcome as Iraq… Iran is not any stronger than Iraq and won’t have the means to resist (a military attack) on its own,” Kadhafi said.
“The challenges are greater and exceed Iran’s ability to reply,” he added, speaking on the third day of his visit.
Like Iran and Iraq before it, Libya was for years pressured by the west over its nuclear and chemical weapons ambitions and capabilities before finding common ground in 2003.
Tehran has steadfastly refused to suspend its uranium enrichment activities, which it says are aimed only at producing fuel for nuclear power production.
The United States and its allies fear the program is a cover for developing nuclear weapons.
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except that the Iranians are not Arabs, that the great difference ; they won’t run away !!!
August 6th, 2008 at 1:46 pmfranchie
except that the Iranians are not Arabs, that the great difference ; they won’t run away !!!
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well they must not be french either then
August 6th, 2008 at 1:54 pmMost Arabs are not thrilled at the prospect of a nuclear Iran. Kadhafi always looks like a man with a serious hangover.
August 6th, 2008 at 1:56 pmKurt, tell when we ran away ?
August 6th, 2008 at 1:56 pmNice shot Kurt…..LOL
August 6th, 2008 at 1:57 pmfuck you bastards
August 6th, 2008 at 1:59 pmThis tells me that the Arab world “gets” Bush Cheney. I would say that the Iranians are going to be a little up tight for the rest of Bush’s term.
The Iranians and all of radical Islam are praying to Allah the Obama is elected.
LOL he wants to talk to them. Maybe send John Kerry over
August 6th, 2008 at 2:04 pmThe Persians ran away at Gaugamela:
August 6th, 2008 at 2:06 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Gaugamela
Well at least Iran can’t claim it wasn’t warned!
I was shocked to hear Libya even had a nuke program until it was put on show in Tennessee for the press after it was turned over as a result of the US invasion of Iraq. Khadafi saw the writing on the wall and is benefiting from increased interaction with the west.
This statement just goes to show that Arabs, Persians, or whatevers in the region understand actions and not noegotiations.
Plus does anyone really think that their will be tears in the region over the destruction of the Mullahs and Ahmadickinajacket?
August 6th, 2008 at 2:10 pmOl’e Kadhafi just gets better lookin with age……..damn!
August 6th, 2008 at 2:18 pmJust fuckin with you Franchie. the French dont run, they stand in place when they surrender haha
oh and your english is improving too. so good job with that.
August 6th, 2008 at 2:18 pmKurt we only surrender when theren’t any other alternative left, and in 1940, It would have been “suicidaire” not to, in front of the blitz panzer divisions
August 6th, 2008 at 2:22 pmKurt we only surrender when theren’t any other alternative left, and in 1940, It would have been “suicidaire” not to, in front of the blitz panzer divisions
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Vietnam
August 6th, 2008 at 2:34 pmVietnam, no ! Dien Dien phu is the proof, the soldiers there were surrounded in a sink and they fought till the extermination of most of them : remember the motto of the légion étrangère is to fight till the death
we were supporting your war against the commies there, otherwise, we would have given the Vietnameses their independance. after the defeat of Diendenphu, there were no motive to stay there anylonger, But your army was already in Saigon.
August 6th, 2008 at 2:47 pmwell dunno if surrounded (got mixed with the french word)is the right ord, better encircled
August 6th, 2008 at 2:55 pmVietnam, no ! Dien Dien phu is the proof, the soldiers there were surrounded in a sink and they fought till the extermination of most of them : remember the motto of the légion étrangère is to fight till the death
we were supporting your war against the commies there, otherwise, we would have given the Vietnameses their independance. after the defeat of Diendenphu, there were no motive to stay there anylonger, But your army was already in Saigon.
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We went to save YOUR ASS again and you ran.
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/vietnam/index-1945.html
August 6th, 2008 at 2:56 pmYeah sorry Franchie, tried to help you there pal but that damn Maginot Line caught us by surprise, we cut our losses and headed back to the beach for ice cream. Lived on to fight another battle though..
August 6th, 2008 at 2:59 pmnot at all :
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/vietnam.htm
it’s because southern Vietnam was threatened by the northern commies that your country decided to intervene in the spirit of the cold war
The United States became involved in Vietnam because American policymakers believed that if the entire country fell under a Communist government, Communism would spread throughout Southeast Asia. This belief was known as the “domino theory.”
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761552642/vietnam_war.html
August 6th, 2008 at 3:14 pmahah, British, you admit that you ran away to Dunkerke and then swam until UK
August 6th, 2008 at 3:16 pmI can’t help but when I read your posts to picture this…
http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm
Of course, you could say the same of me if I went out to one of those Frenchie blogs.
August 6th, 2008 at 3:22 pm“we were supporting your war against the commies there”
What a crock of shit.
August 6th, 2008 at 3:23 pmFrance was trying to retain the last vestige of Empire in Southeast Asia.
goobyenat,uh I guess you like the digressions
August 6th, 2008 at 3:31 pmhttp://hypo.ge.ch/www/cliotexte//html/vietnam.1945.html
the scission of the 2 vietnams was already decided in 1950, though the assissination of french civils by the vietcong determined France to send troops there, for fighting the commies, with the US money
August 6th, 2008 at 3:50 pmKadhafi must be remembering the time he pushed his luck against Reagan. I give him credit for learning his lesson.
August 6th, 2008 at 4:18 pmWhich happened in the year I was born: 1986 (which was the combat debut of the F/A-18)! I also remember in that decade, the F-14 downed 4 Libyan bogeys.
I find it annoying how most of the public forgot another positive outcome of OIF: Kadhafi giving up his nuke program.
The question is, will the Iraqis ultimately take our side against or Iran, or the Iranian side?
August 6th, 2008 at 5:03 pm“the scission of the 2 vietnams was already decided in 1950″
France went back into Indochina in 1946 to attempt to re-establish Colonial rule and got their ass kicked out in 1954.
August 6th, 2008 at 5:05 pmAll along the roads up country, the roads with every bridge blown down, 12 years after Dien Bin Phu we could still find the burned out 2CVs and AK250s the French had lost to the Viet Mhin. The rubber plantations and beautiful before being ruined churches showed the French colonial influence.
Oh yeah, the French fought for Viet Nam, spending 20 million US dollars that last year. Their motives were as altruistic as they were during the “Oil For Food” late 20th century.
August 6th, 2008 at 5:25 pmyeah, I expect that you would also have tried to keep your empire if you had one at this time.
The colonial caoutchouc industry owners made a pression on the government to keep their properties.
though if you had read the few links that I provided (also those that didn’t appear on board
), then you would have known that the french population didn’t feel enough motivation to fight for a far away country, just after being starved during the german occupation and still rationned.
The marechal Leclerc had already proposed the independance for Vietnam, but because of the caoutchouc lobby, he wasn’t heard.
I was prevented from sending you to the “chamallows”, though I expect that you can also “manage” a civil discussion.
August 6th, 2008 at 5:32 pmmon petit eagle
“Their motives were as altruistic as they were during the “Oil For Food” late 20th century”.
“oil for food” was a propaganda that suited quit well your “either you are with us or against us” stance at the moment. If you had read real sources then you would know that 200 enterprises in world wide were implicated, y comprise from your country, though they operated as “private” and not under the concerned governments banners
August 6th, 2008 at 5:51 pm“If you had read real sources…”
Oughta take your own advice there franchie.
August 6th, 2008 at 6:54 pmKadhafi shows a bit of wisdom!! Will the Persians listen? No!! Boom boom boom!!
August 6th, 2008 at 8:40 pmsully, it would help you to appreciate conviviality, à défaut de modestie
August 6th, 2008 at 10:24 pmfranchie:
You’re the first European I know who hasn’t said that Pres. Nixon started the Vietnam war. (The general start date for the U.S. was in 1964 under Pres. Johnson’s watch. He was a Democrat.)
August 6th, 2008 at 10:54 pmBillie, because I have always been interested in history ; and when I made my high-school classes I had 2 exceptionnal history teachers. This was when a “litterature” spirit was still priced. Nowadays the kids are educated by TV and hollywood movies
he, your not in bed ? what time is it in your place ?
August 6th, 2008 at 11:17 pmKhadafi is a Sunni. He has no love for Shiites. Neither do the rest of the Sunnis in the ME. Even the Saudis would secretly cheer a Persian ass-kicking by the US.
Oh a historical note: The French in VN were given the responsibility of Indochina by the UN after WWII. Unfortunately the French chose to take back their colonial possesion, instaed of just freeing the Vietminh.
In Dien Bien Phu as well as the rest of the French VN campaign, they were finaced , armed and equipped by the US.
In Dien Bien Phu they were supplied by CIA pilots flying for a early version of Air America.
Yes it was an anti-Communist effort, but more a French colonial effort to regain a French colonial possesion.
Besides WWI and WWII we also helped the French in Algeria.
We have a long history of helping the French in whatever conflict that they need help with. That history goes back to 1917…so its about 100 years now, that we have helped out or assisted strategic French efforts in the world.
With the Sarkman in charge, it looks like maybe we can revive that old Anglo-French geopolitical relationship and get on with the business of fighting our mutual enemies in the GWOT as we did against the Soviet Union.
The Sarkman seems to have a more pragmatic approach to geopolitical affairs than previous French Presidents. If he gets tired of France he’s more than welcome to come over here. He’d be a good choice to lead our Congress.
He’s certainly got more sense than Komrade Peloski and Herr Reid does. Two beers for the Sarkman.
Kudos to Khadafi for sobering up and speaking facts for a change.And people thought RR was wrong for dropping a couple of laser-guided bombs in Khadafis back yard. A little TR diplomacy goes a long way.
August 6th, 2008 at 11:50 pmBTW, the US-VN war started in 1961 in the Kennedy Administration. By 1963 we already had 8,000 advisers in VN.
That was half of the number we had there the previous year.
Eisenhower sent advisors to VN in 1958. They came back with the recommendation not to get involved. The same advice was given to Kennedy by Macarthur and Lemay. He ignored it.
Remember his speech about …helping any friend…opposing any foe… That speech was directed against the USSR. He wasn’t bullshitting around. He hated the commies.
August 7th, 2008 at 12:12 amMoamer Kadhafi looks like he remebers tents in his back yard blowing up after Ronald Reagan tossed a few thousand pounders his way
August 7th, 2008 at 3:52 amKurt, I’ll be laughing at that one the rest of the day.
August 7th, 2008 at 4:41 amDan, not quite disinterested in helping us though, your governments wanted to replace us in our colonies ; backyards manipulations to push the people there for rebellation against us. It was also the big Roosvelt’s dream to make of France an american protectorat, also a show-window of the american way of life (as for Japan) in front of the communists ambitions in Europe, and thus taking the managment of our colonies…too bad, there was a de Gaulle !!!
August 7th, 2008 at 6:11 am” it would help you to appreciate conviviality, à défaut de modestie”
You admonishing anyone to “have read real sources” is neither convivial nor modest. Particularly when you continue to be the ‘guilty’ party. It is funny though.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:18 amhello Great Sully, how is your Grandeur today ?
“You admonishing anyone to “have read real sources” is neither convivial nor modest.”
hey, when didn’t you say “get a clue” ? I don’t remember that you put your gloves on to admonish me, though with a much colored (oh, scusi, not political correct) words
“Particularly when you continue to be the ‘guilty’ party”
what guilty party ? in your imagination, oh, Great Sully
August 7th, 2008 at 6:26 amWhoa! Khadaffi looks like one of those “before and after” meth ads…
Franchies got a point. Iranians aren’t Arabs…And I don’t think they really look upon them as equals. They’ll not listen to Khadaffi, or anyone else. The fools will have to learn their lesson the hard way
They won’t run away, but a massed enemy is much easier to wipe out…
Hey Franchie, no Twain quotes!
August 7th, 2008 at 6:32 amhi Steve M, no Twain quotes, I was hoping that you helped me to get “well educated” though
August 7th, 2008 at 6:34 am” I was hoping that you helped me to get “well educated” though”
Someone needs to help you.
August 7th, 2008 at 7:11 am“Someone needs to help you.”
hey, where is your creativity ? I can’t progress if you don’ use it !!!
August 7th, 2008 at 7:21 amI’m afraid taking on the ingrown and inbred Statist French progressive ‘principles’ that you display are far too daunting a task for any single person’s “creativity”.
August 7th, 2008 at 10:27 amWe here in America are presently busy enough resisting the politics of state owned and dispensed rights that results from an atheistic ‘culture’. You consistently fail to recall that most of us here still believe that our rights are ‘God-given’ “unalienable rights”.
I don’t quite understand your distaste for Twain though since late in life he argued some of the same points you’ve tried unsuccessfully to make on your own. I tried to throw you that bone but per usual it sailed right over your head.
Perhaps the “creativity” of Lewis Carroll might appeal to your relativistic sensibilities more? …. “It’s no use going back to yesterday. I was a different person then.”
Yeah… that describes you.
woah, a long comment !!! that’s making a change with your usual “persiflages”
Don’ try to recuperate the situation at your advantage, Mr the prestidigitateur !
I have been following your performances for quite a while now, and I know accurately when you are at the bottom line of your creative breath
Also you may be what you say about your identity as a representant of your theistic culture, though, on that board you only represent yourself, therefore you can’t speak for the whole assembly of readers. If you don’t like my personnality, I can’t help it, I am what I am. I suppose if this site owners still accept me, they have their reasons, that aren’t yours obviously.
I never said that I distate Twain, it’s a joke between Steve M and me ; in the contrary, I find some of his sentences quite witty ! plus, we studied some fragments of his “Tom Sayer” in our english classes.
“I tried to throw you that bone but per usual it sailed right over your head.”
Im stil waiting for it, if your thinking to “water is wet, fire is hot, or gravity” then, I can tell you your still “out” for me, (see what I replied you in the referred topic)
thanks for the Lewis Caroll fantasy, it suits me, though not him alone.
And Lewis Caroll could also be applied for you here, as far I am concerned.
Mr Magicien, your still a pleasant person as far as your vocabulary is concerned. I think I have made a lot of progresses in english thanks to you
August 7th, 2008 at 11:12 am“your still a pleasant person as far as your vocabulary is concerned. I think I have made a lot of progresses in english thanks to you”
Well then since I’m not inclined to engage in your name calling we can leave it here. I’m glad that your English progresses. Try reading a book sometime.
August 7th, 2008 at 11:34 amHere you go…. I went and found one for you…
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j97/stars5501/progbible.gif
…No need to thank me.
August 7th, 2008 at 11:39 am“Try reading a book sometime.”, I guess you pronounced that sentence more than once ; he, how many women did have to read or listen to it ?
ya know that I have read many books, but not much of those that are of your taste
Cependant, if you don’t know anything on a subject I can predict that you’ll disguise it with a “boutade” (joke)
August 7th, 2008 at 11:43 amyeah, I recognise your obsession here : you want my death through your ennemi’s book ; no way that I can read that, BUT you did it of course
August 7th, 2008 at 11:49 amOf course I did…. unlike you, I don’t read everything I believe.
August 7th, 2008 at 12:00 pmThat’s why I thought that the “Wisdom-free” edition would suit you.
“unlike you, I don’t read everything I believe.”
that’s also why you don’t read “history books”
August 7th, 2008 at 12:10 pmMaybe the whole Vietnam debacle would have been avoided if the French had paid attention to Ho Chi Minh and Vietnamese nationalism when Ho attended the Versailles conference in 1918?
The U.S. backed Ho and the Vietminh against the Japanese and Ho quoted the American Declaration of Independence in his 1945 Declaration of Independence. There were American advisers with the Vietminh through ‘46. Ho didn’t become vocally anti-American until ’bout ‘50 and the We’d been backing the French for several years. U.S. backing of the French was from 1) needing French/DeGualle’s backing against the Soviets in Europe and 2) U.S. panic over Mao’s takeover in China which the U.S. stayed in political denial over until Nixon.
August 7th, 2008 at 12:22 pmAw c’mon franchie…. read SOMETHING instead of googlin’ fer links that you think bolster your ‘argument’.
August 7th, 2008 at 12:36 pmWhat’s the last book you read and understood?
Kenashimame
yes I know, he worked at the Renault manufactures and learnt there about unions (syndicalisme) and about Marx theories. Though communism as it appeared to be a few years later in Russia, wasn’t still considered as a threat at that time : we learnt what really happened to Russia in the twenties to thirties.
We also had Lenine till 1917… well, too bad we can’t make an history revision
August 7th, 2008 at 1:06 pmsully, you know what I read, it’s on my blog !!!!
the last one (also subject on this board)
“1940-1945, Années érotiques”, Patrick Buisson
“Mon petit mari”, Pascal Bruckner (the only one that is a fiction, though a derision about a small man when that married a bigger bride)
“L’art des sculpteurs romans”, Henri Focillon
“Le monde selon Monsanto”, Marie-Dominique Robin
“L’affaire Jeanne D’Arc”, Roger Senzig-Marcel Gay
“Amours, histoire des relations entre les hommes et les femmes”, Jacques Attali
“Au fil de l’épée”, De Gaulle
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I bet you haven’t read them though
August 7th, 2008 at 1:25 pmok, I repost :
sully you should know what I read during the past year, it was on my blog.
“1940-1945 Années érotiques”, Patrick Buisson (that book was a topic on that board a few months ago)
“Mon petit Mari”, Pascal Bruckner (the only fiction : a derison on a little man that married a bigger bride than him)
“L’affaire Jeanne D’Arc”, Roger Senzig-Marcel Gay
“L’Art des sculpteurs romans”, Henri Focillon
“Le monde selon Monsanto”, Marie-Monique Robin
“Amours, histoires des relations entre les hommes et les femmes”, Jacques Attali
“Le fil de l’épée”, De Gaulle
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I bet you haven’t read these books though
August 7th, 2008 at 2:09 pmhmmm…. I thought Versailles was 1919 and ALL of the Far East was ignored by ALL of the attendees. Including Woodrow Wilson.
“we learnt what really happened to Russia in the twenties to thirties.
We didn’t know about Lenin until the “twenties to thirties”?
http://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/government/foreign-relations/1917/November/21.htm
“…too bad we can’t make an history revision”
Y’all keep pluggin away at it though. You’re doin fine.
August 7th, 2008 at 2:15 pm“…you should know what I read during the past year, it was on my blog.”
I don’t read your blog.
August 7th, 2008 at 2:18 pmMr “diggin the net too”, when I say twenties to thirties, I ment the population in general, petit connard !
August 7th, 2008 at 2:26 pmKadhafi looks freaking retared. Oh, excuse me, Kadhafi looks like he has special needs.
August 7th, 2008 at 3:00 pmHe must be getting looney in his older years. How many years and running is it now Colonel Towel-Head?
Sorry;
August 7th, 2008 at 3:05 pmKadhafi looks freaking retarded. etc..
Carry on.
Yes sir. Sir.
Frenchie:
Dan, not quite disinterested in helping us though, your governments wanted to replace us in our colonies ; backyards manipulations to push the people there for rebellation against us. It was also the big Roosvelt’s dream to make of France an american protectorat, also a show-window of the american way of life (as for Japan) in front of the communists ambitions in Europe, and thus taking the managment of our colonies…too bad, there was a de Gaulle !!!
Nonsense, Frenchie. You been reading too many socialist wanker comic books again.
DeGaulle was real appreciative after the US saved his ass and tried to help him in Algeirs and in VN. Note my sarcasm. Not exactly the proper way to salute an ally who saved his country.
DeGaulle was a prima donna and a poor tactician. Too slow in maneuever, too timid in battle. Patton was right about him.
That’s why Americans lead and everyone else either follows or gets out of the way. Even Sarko has got that one figured out.
Lucky for France Sarko is a pragmatist.
August 7th, 2008 at 3:16 pmhi Dan, I guess tha I’ll have to diggin the net
seriously, it’s evident you don’t see the things equally depending on wich side of the one stands
I don’t think that the infos I got are all spoiled by socialist wankers,
got the de Gaulle books, and the memories of his son, an amiral
August 7th, 2008 at 3:33 pmhey ho sully I got sitemeter, so your a gros menteur
August 7th, 2008 at 3:36 pmFrenchie:
“sully, you know what I read, it’s on my blog !!!!
the last one (also subject on this board)
“1940-1945, Années érotiques”, Patrick Buisson
“Mon petit mari”, Pascal Bruckner (the only one that is a fiction, though a derision about a small man when that married a bigger bride)
“L’art des sculpteurs romans”, Henri Focillon
“Le monde selon Monsanto”, Marie-Dominique Robin
“L’affaire Jeanne D’Arc”, Roger Senzig-Marcel Gay
“Amours, histoire des relations entre les hommes et les femmes”, Jacques Attali
“Au fil de l’épée”, De Gaulle
….
I bet you haven’t read them though”
Two things, I doubt anyone cares about your blog or your books. Especially not Sully. He’s too smart for that.
Here’s a better list of books. Its my reading list that I finished this year.
The Al Queda Reader - Raymond Ibrahim
Arrogance - Benie Goldberg
America Alone - Mark Stein
Shadow War - Mark Stein
Why We Left Islam - Susan Crimp/Joel Richardson
What Every American Needs to Know about The Koran - Federer
Collapse of Evolution - Scott Huse
Now They Call Me Infidel - Nonie Darwish
Secrets &Lies - Bruce Sneider
And my current readings:
God’s War on Terror - Walid Shoebat
THE Politically Incorrect Guide to the Constitution - K. Gutzman
- And -
Islam Rising by Jim Murk
Why feast on peanuts when you can have caviar instead?
Ain’t that right Sully?
Like you said Frenchie “I bet you haven’t read them though”
Dollardians: Add those titles to the recommended Dollard Reading list.
August 7th, 2008 at 3:40 pmThe Iranian regime is not Arab. Yet they share the same global vision for the world…submit, convert or die….And an all-abiding hatred of Jews codified, encouraged and formulated by their slave-master and false prophet, Muhammed. His achievements as a murder, rapist and child-molestor are well known, documented and granted sainthood ny Bukhari and the other “righly guided” Caliphs in early Muslim history.
Now the motivation in the Third Great Jiihad against the West is a shared Muslim eschatology.
No. The Persian rulers in Tehran are ready to sacrifice all the Persians in Iran to achieve their goal of bringing back their Mahdi and dominating the world.
They will fail worse than they failed at Gaugamella irrespective of their reaction when the IDF strikes the Iraniac nuclear program.
Too bad. Persian civilization is worth preserving. They were a great people prior to 1979. Many still are. They’re just not running Tehran.
No doubt Cyrus is turning over in his grave at the prospect of Iran being defeated yet again, because of the lies of Muhammed and his progeny.
August 7th, 2008 at 3:54 pm“when I say twenties to thirties, I ment the population in general”
yeah sure you do.
“hey ho sully I got sitemeter”
two or three times after you told me to go look at some dumbass pic doesn’t qualify as “reading your blog”
August 7th, 2008 at 3:56 pmgros menteur backatcha
yeah, whatever backatcha !!!! modesty oblige
August 7th, 2008 at 4:06 pm“hi Dan, I guess tha I’ll have to diggin the net
seriously, it’s evident you don’t see the things equally depending on wich side of the one stands
I don’t think that the infos I got are all spoiled by socialist wankers,
got the de Gaulle books, and the memories of his son, an amiral”
Hi to you Frenchie. But no, see I’ve already considered both sides and have made up my mind as to which side I’m on.
In reality there are absolutes. An absolute wrong and an absolute right.
I’ll listen to opposing views when they make sense. However, if those views defy the historical record, or the current geopolitical realities, I will oppose them.
Futhermore, when reading history, I do not accept a “narrative” as history of any sort. Narratives are opinions. Books without footnotes are a waste of time. Opinion is not history…it is only opinion. Footnotes show perspective and lean towards perspicuity.
Since I’m not easily swayed by every wind of new doctrine, narratives or alarmists like Gore, I do my own searching and my own inquiries…and I don’t rely on Google.
I further pay no heed to Credential Vitaes. Intellectual inquiry is not limited by credentialism.
Jesus Christ said that He was the life and truth; and that truth would set people free.
If one is grounded in truth like the deep roots of a tree; it is easy to fathom the depths of knowledge, intellect and
discernment.
Therefore, finding the truth on any issue is not a challenge; especially where falsehood abounds.
August 7th, 2008 at 4:12 pmTwo things, I doubt anyone cares about your blog or your books. Especially not Sully. He’s too smart for that.
What’s the last book you read and understood?
OK, then I got deforming glasses, I haven’t read what I read,
waiting for the “smart” effect… aux chiottes !!!
August 7th, 2008 at 4:18 pmhttp://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5505/attack20parrotattack640ze1.jpg
August 7th, 2008 at 4:39 pm“Futhermore, when reading history, I do not accept a “narrative” as history of any sort. Narratives are opinions. Books without footnotes are a waste of time. Opinion is not history…it is only opinion. Footnotes show perspective and lean towards perspicuity.”
I have only responded to a question from a smart “magician”
it is also evident that my interests don’t fit your crusader spirit. Im not living the same worries and obligations of results.
hey, plutot rude ton intervention!!!!
August 7th, 2008 at 4:53 pmFrenchie:
You’re so funny…You come in here and get ruled. Yet you plod on. You must be a massochist. Once again. the topic always seems to come back to you. Well this ain’t about you in particular. The whole purpose for the existence of this site is to expose libistan bias, socialism and the support of the US military in the global fight on terrorism.
In short, this place exudes truth…day in and day out. It has a somewhat vituperous nature to it…but its all in fun..Libs do such a poor job of defending their positions here that it is only too easy to expose their invectives and conjectures for what they really are.
The ennui of you libs is so predictable.
August 7th, 2008 at 5:00 pmDan, Im following the conversations flux, and it happens that people don’t always talk 24/24 about the “business” of the place.
When someone wants to argue or talk with me, I am generally opened to discussions ; it was the case obviously today, I was “interpelled” by a “smart” person for a comment.
OK, I know how it always finishes, though, in between, I learn something more and improve my language practice
If there was a major problem for my presence here, be sure that the moderators would have already thrown me out.
Voilà
August 7th, 2008 at 5:17 pmFrenchie:
“I have only responded to a question from a smart “magician” it is also evident that my interests don’t fit your crusader spirit. Im not living the same worries and obligations of results.”
Likewise, I’m sure. French sure does lose alot when you try to translate it into English. The French words just don’t match well with English at all.
Crusader? LOL. That’s a good one. So was Charles Martel. He probably saved the Western world from sliding back into the 7th century. If I’m a crusader like he was, then I’m in good company. Thanks for the compliment cheri.
August 7th, 2008 at 5:23 pm“waiting for the “smart” effect”
You’ll likely be waiting quite awhile if ‘believable’ continues to be your measure of the world
August 7th, 2008 at 5:32 pm“Why feast on peanuts when you can have caviar instead?
Ain’t that right Sully?”
Si Senor’. Merci Beaucoup!
August 7th, 2008 at 5:36 pm(Ya think that finally makes Barookie Duhbama happy? Me bein’ multilingual and all.)
Regardless of recent past wars of French involvement (or lack there of), I had a Frech artillery Major at Ft. Sill after 9/11 state this…and it caught me off guard a little…”France. Armerica’s first ally.” So easily it would be to jump on our pal here Franchie, but I’ll simply say thank you for my country and be done.
August 7th, 2008 at 5:45 pmone more thing sully, ““waiting for the “smart” effect”
guess, your owned,
I ment that would would come soon (smart was the quality that Dan gave you, no ?) idiot
August 7th, 2008 at 5:52 pm@Sully:
LOL. Good one. Ich Bien ein Berliner minen komrade. Zwei Biere bitte.
LOL
Bouteille de vin pour la dame. LOL
There ya go, that ought to make the Obamination happy.
August 7th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
August 7th, 2008 at 6:06 pm“your owned”
You’re funny. Never by you.
August 7th, 2008 at 6:58 pmListen to him, he knows from experience what he is talking about.
August 7th, 2008 at 11:57 pmYour right Franchie, your English syntax improved with each post you made on this comment thread.
Good for you.
August 8th, 2008 at 12:08 amMike 3481
thanks , fortunately there are people like you, and many others, that allow me to think that US and our country will carry on having relations, depends on the men, on the policies,on the evenements ; definitely we belong to the same family. Hey, find a family where there aren’t bicquerings, fightings… c’est la vie
and don’t worry for me, I know the kinds of sully, that are the persons who need a revencge on life : they got to prove they are the best, though they are not very strong in their head, they chose to demonstrate their superiority upon the weakests
August 8th, 2008 at 2:37 am“….. c’est la vie”
Most intelligent thing you’ve said in quite awhile.
As for the rest, if you could have proven your mis-characterizations of me and any ‘motives’, you would have already. Instead, you make yourself a sort of ‘victim’.
August 8th, 2008 at 6:41 amLose an argument? Become a victim!
Where have we seen THAT M.O. before?
no, darling, YOU are the victim of your pre-jugés, and of your “orgueil” : you don’t want to loose the face in front of a woman, and especially of a FRENCH woman.
I never pose as a victim, nor loose an argument, just that you deliberately ignore the sense of them or misunderstand them because of the above features of your character.
voilà
and thank you for the yesterday performance, great show of your moral behaviour
August 8th, 2008 at 6:57 amDoesn’t matter to me whether you are a woman or not. Apparently it’s you that thinks deference should be given to your liberal views because of your gender. And your whining about you being the “weakest”, while true when it comes to ‘argument’, IS acting as a victim.
“…great show of your moral behaviour”
Whatever. Per usual you were attacking me rather than the argument.
August 8th, 2008 at 7:50 am“Doesn’t matter to me whether you are a woman or not. Apparently it’s you that thinks deference should be given to your liberal views because of your gender. And your whining about you being the “weakest”, while true when it comes to ‘argument’, IS acting as a victim.”
I am not arguing for my personnal case, though it could also enter into the argumentation and also the language understanding difference… though I have remarcked that you don’t try to enter into conflict with strong personnalities on that board ; you then rather “rampe”, and look for a buddy support
“Per usual you were attacking me rather than the argument”
not at all, you have been attacking me since 2 days,
can’t see you had arguments there but only a “volonté of puissance” for undermining me
now, your not amusing me anymore, I wouldn’t be angry if you leave my path
August 8th, 2008 at 8:27 amfranchie;
August 8th, 2008 at 9:36 amDoes the Name Michlein Rubber ring a bell.that was a major
reason for France to hang on!!!Michlein had one of the largest rubber plantations in the world there, Greed is Good!
Gabor, yes, and plus Michelin is equiping your planes wheels, also your racing cars’
now Dunlop had also many plantations (dunno if the label still exist)
eh, what about your chocolate plantations in Ivory coast
August 8th, 2008 at 9:58 am“…can’t see you had arguments there but only a “volonté of puissance” for undermining me…”
Your inability to prove the accuracy of a post is not me “undermining” you. It is you undermining you.
“..your not amusing me anymore, I wouldn’t be angry if you leave my path..”
but what about me??? can’t I ‘finish’??
August 8th, 2008 at 11:34 amyour so bored without me, hey my previous comment didn’t appear : it was a tale,
once upon a time there was a phenix in a zoo, dunno why, people call him “Bonobo”; he was so famous that I decided to go and watch him ; though I didn’t know that he likes bananas, I just came with my camera. I couldn’t take a real pic of him because he kept on showing me his ass.
I tried to discuss with him, even made a nice approach, showing him what I had in my bag. No way he cared of my priced things, just got his ass face as a reply.
Though I know that he is kind to people that bring him bananas.
August 8th, 2008 at 3:57 pmYou have a tale? Can’t your therapist do anything about that for you?
Hey…here’s one for you….
“I was walking across a snow covered pasture and found a small bird lying on the ground almost frozen to death. I tried to warm it but it wasn’t coming around so I thought I’d try covering it in fresh cow shit and it seemed to help, the bird came around and started chirping and even singing. I went home to get a box and blanket but when I returned there was nothing there but feathers and blood. Pretty sad but I guess there is a moral to be found in this dismal story; not everyone that puts you in shit is your enemy; not everyone that gets you out is your friend; and if you somehow find yourself in a pile of shit it might be best to keep your mouth shut.”
August 8th, 2008 at 4:54 pmI don’t trust a therapist that prefers to keep a little bird in a pile of shit, and that has in mind to make butter out of it.
nice try though, I like the image of the fresh cow shit
August 8th, 2008 at 5:31 pmI knew that you would.
August 8th, 2008 at 6:38 pmEven cow shit can be valuable.
“… il faut cultiver notre jardin.”
can’t believe you wanted to be nice with me !
once there was a bitter man that retired in a tower of dark enignmes. We are in use here to see him as a misanthrope, though this is one more illusion that surrounds his domain.
Since he forgot to melt with humanity, he thinks he really become a God in the nation of his feathers. Not that God who displays fates, just that One who states jugements.
He doesn’t often get wrong, though his sentences are like codified versets. Everyone get his/her number, and he also never wants to remove one from its assigned place.
Though that gives him inner strikes, when he realises that his choice was also based on a relative moral, but he doesn’t like that word “disorder”, that’s why he got the syndrome of “terminator” and acquierred all sorts of sprays
that could stick one on the ground.
The funny thing for one who can observe his tower with a long sight, there are many colored lazer spots that sort as spears heads, plus or less intense ; the whole spectral universe gets one.
Many tried to reach him with iron-y points, not many with sympathety though, for he doesn’t also appeal for a feable inclination, and therefore not involvement with humans, but with marsian moral principles. That is why there are so many black holes in his halo, that give the impression of a vascillant forteresse. Dunno yet if they’ll make like the dominos effect ; what kind of lepidoptera would come out of this chrysalid !!!!
August 9th, 2008 at 3:27 am“can’t believe you wanted to be nice with me !……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….”
wtf are you talking about?
August 9th, 2008 at 9:32 amnuthin, back on line
August 9th, 2008 at 9:49 amThere is no reason why the Americans and French cannot work together.
But one must remember that after literally saving France, twice in the 20th century (we were glad to do it BTW never got much if any of the money we gave back), then having various French gov’ts kick us in the balls repeatedly since WW-II tends to make us somewhat bitter. Sorry but France made the bed… After our sacrifice in blood and treasure your elected officials could not be bothered to even back us up with rhetoric.
Viet Nam.
Korea and VN were both “limited wars” for various reasons. But they did help to break world wide communism. We could afford wars of this sort the “Former Soviet Union” could not. They went broke trying to keep up. All that combloc ammo the NVA used had to be paid for somehow.
The French had a vested interest in our not being successful in VN, they failed so we should too.
August 9th, 2008 at 12:44 pmIn VN and Korea we were attempting to derail communist takeover of the planet. Extreme statement you think. Look at SE Asia, Africa and S. America at the time the USSR went toes up. LOTS of Africa was communist. Soviet backed “liberators” were everywhere with their AKs. Thailand was having border “problems” in the 60s and 70s. Why do you think that South Africa changed when it did. It was because the communist threat died with the USSR. The ANC was communist backed.
The USSR did not fail because of Reagan alone. It was decades of military advances that the Soviets could not match but continued to spend Rubles on plus fund “wars of liberation” they could not afford. Heck they could not feed their own population from the Bolshevik revolution on and have a military but they tried to do both till their unworkable system collapsed on itself. But in the process they and their commie allies killed 100 million of their own civilians. 100 million, makes those killed in combat fighting communism seem like a drop in the bucket.
So all you French types should remember that if not for the USA you would likely speaking German now. Or Russian. And it is not because of your peoples personal fortitude. It has to do with the stupidity of politicians in most of Europe who lacked the guts to stop Hitler when he first started rebuilding the German Military.
Every time I think of peace talks with people like the Muslims fanatics the western world is faced with right now I think of Chamberlain and Hilter and the “agreement” Chamberlain was so proud of. I bet after he left the talks with his little piece of paper the Germans were immobilized in fits of laughter.
The sad part is that France is in the front line of the current fight and apparently does not even know it.
I agree with you 1938 was the great mistake that UK and France made.
The French had a vested interest in our not being successful in VN, they failed so we should too.
we couldn’t assume 2 fronts, Viet Nam and Algeria that started also in 1954. Algeria was a proxy war, still a french department, with a large population of francophones, so the priority was made for the latter. Loosing Algeria ment also loosing a few thousands jobs in France, not counting the money that would not feed the trades. And indeed the Algeria independance impverished our country, though that was a choice for peace, the population had enough of wars.
as I said in an above post, France was ruined at the end of WWII.
though we did had a “légion étrangère” bataillon in Korea at the beginnings
August 9th, 2008 at 2:08 pm“as I said in an above post, France was ruined at the end of WWII.”
Nobody has asked anything of France other than ‘intestinal fortitude’.
August 10th, 2008 at 6:44 amInstead we see it arrogantly hiding behind political relativism.
Exactly the kind of thing we see Obama embracing.
“You would think after all these years somebody could have come up with an idea for an organization of nation-states allied to fight imperialist designs of dictators and despots which have plagued Europe for centuries.
Maybe organized under a treaty which gave them more power united than seperate; that had as a founding principle that an attack on one was an attack on all. Which also allowed entry into the ‘organization’ any nation-state that was committed to freedom and democracy.
I guess the notion that you might someday actually have to fight for your principles is kinda scary.”
yes you do that ???? Where ???? when ????
it was 60 years ago, since then I can’t see you were fighting for “principles”
“it arrogantly hiding behind political relativism”
houla, my favorite giveur de lessons, it’s your tactic !!!
it’s not political relativism, it’s political realism.
“Face à la Géorgie, les Russes agissent comme font les Américains depuis sept ans. On voit d’où vient le modèle.”
http://www.dedefensa.org/article.php?art_id=5335
http://www.dedefensa.org/article.php?art_id=5338
August 10th, 2008 at 8:47 amerm…. i think you put your pile of cow shit in the wrong place.
August 10th, 2008 at 11:20 amnot at all, magic powder doesn’t operate anymore, this above comment was intentionned, though to the wrong bird, intestinal fortitude ?
there, there is the arrogant “raven” :
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/08/georgiarussia_c/#comments
August 10th, 2008 at 12:28 pmok, no more politics, lets come back to your tale
there was once a man who found a frozen bird, and he didn’t know how to warm it, supposedly walking on a snow covered pasture. Dunno why he saw a fresh cow shit ; I wonder why someone forgot a cow outside, it should stay in stalles by cold time. Anyway this man had the idea to cover the bird with the cow shit, finding that it got better afterword. He also thought that the bird was chirping and singing. Difficult to imagine that poor thing covered of shit and singing. Though he said so,; then left the bird there to get a box and a blanket from his home. Why didn’t he took the bird directly to his place ? could be that he didn’t care of the bird, that he made a trick, after having covered the bird with shit he should have known that the shit would dry and become stiff with the cold, that the bird would be prisonner of a machiavelian process, and wouldn’t be able to move anymore. This was condamning the bird to a certain death.
it’s evident that that man had not forecasted the crual end of the bird, kinda a short-minded man after all !
Well he came back to the shit pile, found blood and feathers,but no bird. It didn’t came to his mind that the bird flew away after beating itself against the shit and injuried while sorting out of this dry “gangue”.
He really thought that the bird was dead, though no more there, then probably taken off by an animal or an eagle.
While contempling the disater, he stated by himself that he was the good man that put it in the shit, that the probable animal or eagle that took it out of the shit is no friend, and he got along with the idea, that when you get in a pile of shit, better to shut up, in case an ennemi would hear you.
The moral of the moral is that don’t trust a man that put you in shit, he might be likely an idiot.
If you thought of me, yes you covered me of shit, I even sang in the shit, though I didn’t get hurt, cause as soon as you “walk off”, I forget about the whole shit and find another motive of singing for another idiot that I may put in a shit
August 10th, 2008 at 2:52 pmYou’re full of shit
August 10th, 2008 at 7:16 pmIdiot
August 11th, 2008 at 1:55 am