except that the Iranians are not Arabs, that the great difference ; they won’t run away !!!

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well they must not be french either then

The Iranians and all of radical Islam are praying to Allah the Obama is elected.

LOL he wants to talk to them. Maybe send John Kerry over

I was shocked to hear Libya even had a nuke program until it was put on show in Tennessee for the press after it was turned over as a result of the US invasion of Iraq. Khadafi saw the writing on the wall and is benefiting from increased interaction with the west.

This statement just goes to show that Arabs, Persians, or whatevers in the region understand actions and not noegotiations.

Plus does anyone really think that their will be tears in the region over the destruction of the Mullahs and Ahmadickinajacket?

oh and your english is improving too. so good job with that.

Kurt we only surrender when theren’t any other alternative left, and in 1940, It would have been “suicidaire” not to, in front of the blitz panzer divisions

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Vietnam

we were supporting your war against the commies there, otherwise, we would have given the Vietnameses their independance. after the defeat of Diendenphu, there were no motive to stay there anylonger, But your army was already in Saigon.

Vietnam, no ! Dien Dien phu is the proof, the soldiers there were surrounded in a sink and they fought till the extermination of most of them : remember the motto of the légion étrangère is to fight till the death

we were supporting your war against the commies there, otherwise, we would have given the Vietnameses their independance. after the defeat of Diendenphu, there were no motive to stay there anylonger, But your army was already in Saigon.

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We went to save YOUR ASS again and you ran.

http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/vietnam/index-1945.html

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/vietnam.htm

it’s because southern Vietnam was threatened by the northern commies that your country decided to intervene in the spirit of the cold war

The United States became involved in Vietnam because American policymakers believed that if the entire country fell under a Communist government, Communism would spread throughout Southeast Asia. This belief was known as the “domino theory.”

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761552642/vietnam_war.html

I can’t help but when I read your posts to picture this…

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/garble.htm

Of course, you could say the same of me if I went out to one of those Frenchie blogs.

What a crock of shit.
France was trying to retain the last vestige of Empire in Southeast Asia.

the scission of the 2 vietnams was already decided in 1950, though the assissination of french civils by the vietcong determined France to send troops there, for fighting the commies, with the US money

Which happened in the year I was born: 1986 (which was the combat debut of the F/A-18)! I also remember in that decade, the F-14 downed 4 Libyan bogeys.

I find it annoying how most of the public forgot another positive outcome of OIF: Kadhafi giving up his nuke program.

The question is, will the Iraqis ultimately take our side against or Iran, or the Iranian side?

France went back into Indochina in 1946 to attempt to re-establish Colonial rule and got their ass kicked out in 1954.

Oh yeah, the French fought for Viet Nam, spending 20 million US dollars that last year. Their motives were as altruistic as they were during the “Oil For Food” late 20th century.

The colonial caoutchouc industry owners made a pression on the government to keep their properties.

though if you had read the few links that I provided (also those that didn’t appear on board ), then you would have known that the french population didn’t feel enough motivation to fight for a far away country, just after being starved during the german occupation and still rationned.

The marechal Leclerc had already proposed the independance for Vietnam, but because of the caoutchouc lobby, he wasn’t heard.

I was prevented from sending you to the “chamallows”, though I expect that you can also “manage” a civil discussion.

“Their motives were as altruistic as they were during the “Oil For Food” late 20th century”.

“oil for food” was a propaganda that suited quit well your “either you are with us or against us” stance at the moment. If you had read real sources then you would know that 200 enterprises in world wide were implicated, y comprise from your country, though they operated as “private” and not under the concerned governments banners

Oughta take your own advice there franchie.

You’re the first European I know who hasn’t said that Pres. Nixon started the Vietnam war. (The general start date for the U.S. was in 1964 under Pres. Johnson’s watch. He was a Democrat.)

he, your not in bed ? what time is it in your place ?

Oh a historical note: The French in VN were given the responsibility of Indochina by the UN after WWII. Unfortunately the French chose to take back their colonial possesion, instaed of just freeing the Vietminh.

In Dien Bien Phu as well as the rest of the French VN campaign, they were finaced , armed and equipped by the US.

In Dien Bien Phu they were supplied by CIA pilots flying for a early version of Air America.

Yes it was an anti-Communist effort, but more a French colonial effort to regain a French colonial possesion.

Besides WWI and WWII we also helped the French in Algeria.

We have a long history of helping the French in whatever conflict that they need help with. That history goes back to 1917…so its about 100 years now, that we have helped out or assisted strategic French efforts in the world.

With the Sarkman in charge, it looks like maybe we can revive that old Anglo-French geopolitical relationship and get on with the business of fighting our mutual enemies in the GWOT as we did against the Soviet Union.

The Sarkman seems to have a more pragmatic approach to geopolitical affairs than previous French Presidents. If he gets tired of France he’s more than welcome to come over here. He’d be a good choice to lead our Congress.

He’s certainly got more sense than Komrade Peloski and Herr Reid does. Two beers for the Sarkman.

Kudos to Khadafi for sobering up and speaking facts for a change.And people thought RR was wrong for dropping a couple of laser-guided bombs in Khadafis back yard. A little TR diplomacy goes a long way.

Eisenhower sent advisors to VN in 1958. They came back with the recommendation not to get involved. The same advice was given to Kennedy by Macarthur and Lemay. He ignored it.

Remember his speech about …helping any friend…opposing any foe… That speech was directed against the USSR. He wasn’t bullshitting around. He hated the commies.

You admonishing anyone to “have read real sources” is neither convivial nor modest. Particularly when you continue to be the ‘guilty’ party. It is funny though.

“You admonishing anyone to “have read real sources” is neither convivial nor modest.”

hey, when didn’t you say “get a clue” ? I don’t remember that you put your gloves on to admonish me, though with a much colored (oh, scusi, not political correct) words

“Particularly when you continue to be the ‘guilty’ party”

what guilty party ? in your imagination, oh, Great Sully

Franchies got a point. Iranians aren’t Arabs…And I don’t think they really look upon them as equals. They’ll not listen to Khadaffi, or anyone else. The fools will have to learn their lesson the hard way They won’t run away, but a massed enemy is much easier to wipe out…

Hey Franchie, no Twain quotes!

Someone needs to help you.

hey, where is your creativity ? I can’t progress if you don’ use it !!!

Don’ try to recuperate the situation at your advantage, Mr the prestidigitateur !

I have been following your performances for quite a while now, and I know accurately when you are at the bottom line of your creative breath

Also you may be what you say about your identity as a representant of your theistic culture, though, on that board you only represent yourself, therefore you can’t speak for the whole assembly of readers. If you don’t like my personnality, I can’t help it, I am what I am. I suppose if this site owners still accept me, they have their reasons, that aren’t yours obviously.

I never said that I distate Twain, it’s a joke between Steve M and me ; in the contrary, I find some of his sentences quite witty ! plus, we studied some fragments of his “Tom Sayer” in our english classes.

“I tried to throw you that bone but per usual it sailed right over your head.”

Im stil waiting for it, if your thinking to “water is wet, fire is hot, or gravity” then, I can tell you your still “out” for me, (see what I replied you in the referred topic)

thanks for the Lewis Caroll fantasy, it suits me, though not him alone.

And Lewis Caroll could also be applied for you here, as far I am concerned.

Mr Magicien, your still a pleasant person as far as your vocabulary is concerned. I think I have made a lot of progresses in english thanks to you

Well then since I’m not inclined to engage in your name calling we can leave it here. I’m glad that your English progresses. Try reading a book sometime.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j97/stars5501/progbible.gif

…No need to thank me.

ya know that I have read many books, but not much of those that are of your taste

Cependant, if you don’t know anything on a subject I can predict that you’ll disguise it with a “boutade” (joke)

that’s also why you don’t read “history books”

The U.S. backed Ho and the Vietminh against the Japanese and Ho quoted the American Declaration of Independence in his 1945 Declaration of Independence. There were American advisers with the Vietminh through ‘46. Ho didn’t become vocally anti-American until ’bout ‘50 and the We’d been backing the French for several years. U.S. backing of the French was from 1) needing French/DeGualle’s backing against the Soviets in Europe and 2) U.S. panic over Mao’s takeover in China which the U.S. stayed in political denial over until Nixon.

yes I know, he worked at the Renault manufactures and learnt there about unions (syndicalisme) and about Marx theories. Though communism as it appeared to be a few years later in Russia, wasn’t still considered as a threat at that time : we learnt what really happened to Russia in the twenties to thirties.

We also had Lenine till 1917… well, too bad we can’t make an history revision

the last one (also subject on this board)

“1940-1945, Années érotiques”, Patrick Buisson
“Mon petit mari”, Pascal Bruckner (the only one that is a fiction, though a derision about a small man when that married a bigger bride)
“L’art des sculpteurs romans”, Henri Focillon
“Le monde selon Monsanto”, Marie-Dominique Robin
“L’affaire Jeanne D’Arc”, Roger Senzig-Marcel Gay
“Amours, histoire des relations entre les hommes et les femmes”, Jacques Attali
“Au fil de l’épée”, De Gaulle
….

I bet you haven’t read them though

sully you should know what I read during the past year, it was on my blog.

“1940-1945 Années érotiques”, Patrick Buisson (that book was a topic on that board a few months ago)
“Mon petit Mari”, Pascal Bruckner (the only fiction : a derison on a little man that married a bigger bride than him)
“L’affaire Jeanne D’Arc”, Roger Senzig-Marcel Gay
“L’Art des sculpteurs romans”, Henri Focillon
“Le monde selon Monsanto”, Marie-Monique Robin
“Amours, histoires des relations entre les hommes et les femmes”, Jacques Attali
“Le fil de l’épée”, De Gaulle
…

I bet you haven’t read these books though

“we learnt what really happened to Russia in the twenties to thirties.

We didn’t know about Lenin until the “twenties to thirties”?

http://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/government/foreign-relations/1917/November/21.htm

“…too bad we can’t make an history revision”

Y’all keep pluggin away at it though. You’re doin fine.

I don’t read your blog.

Dan, not quite disinterested in helping us though, your governments wanted to replace us in our colonies ; backyards manipulations to push the people there for rebellation against us. It was also the big Roosvelt’s dream to make of France an american protectorat, also a show-window of the american way of life (as for Japan) in front of the communists ambitions in Europe, and thus taking the managment of our colonies…too bad, there was a de Gaulle !!!

Nonsense, Frenchie. You been reading too many socialist wanker comic books again.

DeGaulle was real appreciative after the US saved his ass and tried to help him in Algeirs and in VN. Note my sarcasm. Not exactly the proper way to salute an ally who saved his country.

DeGaulle was a prima donna and a poor tactician. Too slow in maneuever, too timid in battle. Patton was right about him.

That’s why Americans lead and everyone else either follows or gets out of the way. Even Sarko has got that one figured out.

Lucky for France Sarko is a pragmatist.

seriously, it’s evident you don’t see the things equally depending on wich side of the one stands

I don’t think that the infos I got are all spoiled by socialist wankers,

got the de Gaulle books, and the memories of his son, an amiral

“sully, you know what I read, it’s on my blog !!!!

the last one (also subject on this board)

“1940-1945, Années érotiques”, Patrick Buisson
“Mon petit mari”, Pascal Bruckner (the only one that is a fiction, though a derision about a small man when that married a bigger bride)
“L’art des sculpteurs romans”, Henri Focillon
“Le monde selon Monsanto”, Marie-Dominique Robin
“L’affaire Jeanne D’Arc”, Roger Senzig-Marcel Gay
“Amours, histoire des relations entre les hommes et les femmes”, Jacques Attali
“Au fil de l’épée”, De Gaulle
….

I bet you haven’t read them though”

Two things, I doubt anyone cares about your blog or your books. Especially not Sully. He’s too smart for that.

Here’s a better list of books. Its my reading list that I finished this year.

The Al Queda Reader - Raymond Ibrahim
Arrogance - Benie Goldberg
America Alone - Mark Stein
Shadow War - Mark Stein
Why We Left Islam - Susan Crimp/Joel Richardson
What Every American Needs to Know about The Koran - Federer
Collapse of Evolution - Scott Huse
Now They Call Me Infidel - Nonie Darwish
Secrets &Lies - Bruce Sneider

And my current readings:
God’s War on Terror - Walid Shoebat

THE Politically Incorrect Guide to the Constitution - K. Gutzman

- And -

Islam Rising by Jim Murk

Why feast on peanuts when you can have caviar instead?
Ain’t that right Sully?

Like you said Frenchie “I bet you haven’t read them though”

Dollardians: Add those titles to the recommended Dollard Reading list.

Now the motivation in the Third Great Jiihad against the West is a shared Muslim eschatology.

No. The Persian rulers in Tehran are ready to sacrifice all the Persians in Iran to achieve their goal of bringing back their Mahdi and dominating the world.

They will fail worse than they failed at Gaugamella irrespective of their reaction when the IDF strikes the Iraniac nuclear program.

Too bad. Persian civilization is worth preserving. They were a great people prior to 1979. Many still are. They’re just not running Tehran.

No doubt Cyrus is turning over in his grave at the prospect of Iran being defeated yet again, because of the lies of Muhammed and his progeny.

yeah sure you do.

“hey ho sully I got sitemeter”

two or three times after you told me to go look at some dumbass pic doesn’t qualify as “reading your blog”
gros menteur backatcha

seriously, it’s evident you don’t see the things equally depending on wich side of the one stands

I don’t think that the infos I got are all spoiled by socialist wankers,

got the de Gaulle books, and the memories of his son, an amiral”

Hi to you Frenchie. But no, see I’ve already considered both sides and have made up my mind as to which side I’m on.

In reality there are absolutes. An absolute wrong and an absolute right.

I’ll listen to opposing views when they make sense. However, if those views defy the historical record, or the current geopolitical realities, I will oppose them.

Futhermore, when reading history, I do not accept a “narrative” as history of any sort. Narratives are opinions. Books without footnotes are a waste of time. Opinion is not history…it is only opinion. Footnotes show perspective and lean towards perspicuity.

Since I’m not easily swayed by every wind of new doctrine, narratives or alarmists like Gore, I do my own searching and my own inquiries…and I don’t rely on Google.

I further pay no heed to Credential Vitaes. Intellectual inquiry is not limited by credentialism.

Jesus Christ said that He was the life and truth; and that truth would set people free.

If one is grounded in truth like the deep roots of a tree; it is easy to fathom the depths of knowledge, intellect and
discernment.

Therefore, finding the truth on any issue is not a challenge; especially where falsehood abounds.

What’s the last book you read and understood?

OK, then I got deforming glasses, I haven’t read what I read,

waiting for the “smart” effect… aux chiottes !!!

I have only responded to a question from a smart “magician” it is also evident that my interests don’t fit your crusader spirit. Im not living the same worries and obligations of results.

hey, plutot rude ton intervention!!!!

You’re so funny…You come in here and get ruled. Yet you plod on. You must be a massochist. Once again. the topic always seems to come back to you. Well this ain’t about you in particular. The whole purpose for the existence of this site is to expose libistan bias, socialism and the support of the US military in the global fight on terrorism.

In short, this place exudes truth…day in and day out. It has a somewhat vituperous nature to it…but its all in fun..Libs do such a poor job of defending their positions here that it is only too easy to expose their invectives and conjectures for what they really are.

The ennui of you libs is so predictable.

When someone wants to argue or talk with me, I am generally opened to discussions ; it was the case obviously today, I was “interpelled” by a “smart” person for a comment.

OK, I know how it always finishes, though, in between, I learn something more and improve my language practice

If there was a major problem for my presence here, be sure that the moderators would have already thrown me out.

Voilà

“I have only responded to a question from a smart “magician” it is also evident that my interests don’t fit your crusader spirit. Im not living the same worries and obligations of results.”

Likewise, I’m sure. French sure does lose alot when you try to translate it into English. The French words just don’t match well with English at all.

Crusader? LOL. That’s a good one. So was Charles Martel. He probably saved the Western world from sliding back into the 7th century. If I’m a crusader like he was, then I’m in good company. Thanks for the compliment cheri.

You’ll likely be waiting quite awhile if ‘believable’ continues to be your measure of the world

“Why feast on peanuts when you can have caviar instead?
Ain’t that right Sully?”

Si Senor’. Merci Beaucoup!
(Ya think that finally makes Barookie Duhbama happy? Me bein’ multilingual and all.)

guess, your owned,

I ment that would would come soon (smart was the quality that Dan gave you, no ?) idiot

LOL. Good one. Ich Bien ein Berliner minen komrade. Zwei Biere bitte. LOL

Bouteille de vin pour la dame. LOL

There ya go, that ought to make the Obamination happy.

You’re funny. Never by you.

Good for you.

thanks , fortunately there are people like you, and many others, that allow me to think that US and our country will carry on having relations, depends on the men, on the policies,on the evenements ; definitely we belong to the same family. Hey, find a family where there aren’t bicquerings, fightings… c’est la vie

and don’t worry for me, I know the kinds of sully, that are the persons who need a revencge on life : they got to prove they are the best, though they are not very strong in their head, they chose to demonstrate their superiority upon the weakests

Most intelligent thing you’ve said in quite awhile.

As for the rest, if you could have proven your mis-characterizations of me and any ‘motives’, you would have already. Instead, you make yourself a sort of ‘victim’.
Lose an argument? Become a victim!
Where have we seen THAT M.O. before?

I never pose as a victim, nor loose an argument, just that you deliberately ignore the sense of them or misunderstand them because of the above features of your character.

voilà

and thank you for the yesterday performance, great show of your moral behaviour

“…great show of your moral behaviour”

Whatever. Per usual you were attacking me rather than the argument.

I am not arguing for my personnal case, though it could also enter into the argumentation and also the language understanding difference… though I have remarcked that you don’t try to enter into conflict with strong personnalities on that board ; you then rather “rampe”, and look for a buddy support

“Per usual you were attacking me rather than the argument”

not at all, you have been attacking me since 2 days,
can’t see you had arguments there but only a “volonté of puissance” for undermining me

now, your not amusing me anymore, I wouldn’t be angry if you leave my path

now Dunlop had also many plantations (dunno if the label still exist)

eh, what about your chocolate plantations in Ivory coast

Your inability to prove the accuracy of a post is not me “undermining” you. It is you undermining you.

“..your not amusing me anymore, I wouldn’t be angry if you leave my path..”

but what about me??? can’t I ‘finish’??

once upon a time there was a phenix in a zoo, dunno why, people call him “Bonobo”; he was so famous that I decided to go and watch him ; though I didn’t know that he likes bananas, I just came with my camera. I couldn’t take a real pic of him because he kept on showing me his ass.
I tried to discuss with him, even made a nice approach, showing him what I had in my bag. No way he cared of my priced things, just got his ass face as a reply.

Though I know that he is kind to people that bring him bananas.

Hey…here’s one for you….

“I was walking across a snow covered pasture and found a small bird lying on the ground almost frozen to death. I tried to warm it but it wasn’t coming around so I thought I’d try covering it in fresh cow shit and it seemed to help, the bird came around and started chirping and even singing. I went home to get a box and blanket but when I returned there was nothing there but feathers and blood. Pretty sad but I guess there is a moral to be found in this dismal story; not everyone that puts you in shit is your enemy; not everyone that gets you out is your friend; and if you somehow find yourself in a pile of shit it might be best to keep your mouth shut.”

nice try though, I like the image of the fresh cow shit

once there was a bitter man that retired in a tower of dark enignmes. We are in use here to see him as a misanthrope, though this is one more illusion that surrounds his domain.
Since he forgot to melt with humanity, he thinks he really become a God in the nation of his feathers. Not that God who displays fates, just that One who states jugements.

He doesn’t often get wrong, though his sentences are like codified versets. Everyone get his/her number, and he also never wants to remove one from its assigned place.

Though that gives him inner strikes, when he realises that his choice was also based on a relative moral, but he doesn’t like that word “disorder”, that’s why he got the syndrome of “terminator” and acquierred all sorts of sprays
that could stick one on the ground.

The funny thing for one who can observe his tower with a long sight, there are many colored lazer spots that sort as spears heads, plus or less intense ; the whole spectral universe gets one.

Many tried to reach him with iron-y points, not many with sympathety though, for he doesn’t also appeal for a feable inclination, and therefore not involvement with humans, but with marsian moral principles. That is why there are so many black holes in his halo, that give the impression of a vascillant forteresse. Dunno yet if they’ll make like the dominos effect ; what kind of lepidoptera would come out of this chrysalid !!!!

wtf are you talking about?