“Tropic Thunder” To Open Wednesday To Controversy - With Video

Gee-zuss! After this past weekend of news I need a damn laugh … I’m there.However, it seems we MUST bring out the squeamish-factor because Downey Jr. has put on the … {GASP!} … “black-face” for his role in Tropic Thunder. Forget about what it adds to the plot and story.
I don’t seem to recall similar ‘concerns’ when black actors put on the “white-face” … and fake boobs.


LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - When Robert Downey Jr. put on dark make-up for film comedy “Tropic Thunder,” the actor ventured into the racially charged territory of blackface, an old showbiz convention that is no laughing matter.
Downey said he initially worried that his portrayal of a white actor playing a black man could hurt his career, and he bristled at being given what he thought would be the most controversial role in the film directed by Ben Stiller.
But so far, “Tropic Thunder,” which opens on Wednesday, has generated no backlash against the 43-year-old star of “Iron Man.”
Hollywood’s history with blackface, a style of wearing wigs and makeup to caricature slaves or ex-slaves in the 19th and early 20th centuries, dates to the start of the movie industry but has largely stopped except in cases of satire and comedy.
Downey told reporters in recent interviews that his role was a satirical send-up of actor narcissism, and different from older uses of blackface that reinforced harmful stereotypes.
“It’s entertainment that’s set up by people who are high-minded enough to not be racist or offensive,” he said.
“The whole film is based on the idea that what we (actors) do at some level is offensive and who we are, at some level, is despicable and pathetic, which is the truth and not the truth. But the part of it that is the truth, is entertaining.”
Downey portrays an Australian actor named Kirk Lazarus who is playing a black army sergeant in a war movie being filmed in the jungle. When one of the characters is kidnapped by drug dealers, his buddies must rescue him by acting, in real life, the way their characters were acting in the movie.
In the case of Lazarus, he continues playing the sergeant even after filming stops, and his overzealousness earns him mockery from a real black actor played by Brandon T. Jackson.
LONG HISTORY
In Hollywood, many stars appeared in blackface until it fell out of favor during the 1950s civil rights movement.
Comic icons the Marx Brothers put on blackface in the 1937 movie “A Day at the Races,” as did actors Judy Garland and Mickey Rooney in the 1941 movie “Babes on Broadway.”
A hundred years ago, immigrant audiences from countries such as Italy and Ireland — who often were not considered “white” by native-born Americans — went to blackface shows to laugh at outsiders and feel white, said Mark Golub, an expert on blackface who teaches at Scripps College in California.
But blackface was not only popular with immigrants, it also played into widespread racist sentiments, experts said.
“By the supremacy of whiteness, blackness had to, by necessity, be its foil, be its opposite,” said Darnell Hunt, director of the Ralph J. Bunche Center for African American Studies at the University of California, Los Angeles.
Najee Ali, president of the Los Angeles-based civil rights group Project Islamic HOPE, said he saw “Tropic Thunder” in a screening and that Downey avoided being offensive by rising above buffoonery. But Ali, who is black, said he worries it could lead to more offensive portrayals.
“Blackface is still blackface, and I think it’s important that we have to stop allowing ourselves to be perceived as clowns to the rest of the world,” he said.
Director Stiller, 42, said he thought about casting a black actor playing a white man for the role, but changed his mind.
“A white guy playing this black role to challenge himself the most in a way that’s wrong-headed and going too far, to me that was the funnier idea,” Stiller said.

Now, being the parent of a little girl with Down Syndrome I recall controversy when the movie “The Ringer” came out. I watched it several times … liked it, and found it portrayed the mentally retarded/Down Syndrome community just plain … typical, and the ‘typical’ people as the ‘retarded’ ones. So, to see such organizations making a stink over a character in a nonsensical movie … and approaching Congress (some of the BIGGEST ‘retards’ in the country) for action … idiotic.
Nationwide ‘Thunder’ Boycott in the Works
By MICHAEL CIEPLY - (NYTimes)
LOS ANGELES — A coalition of disabilities groups is expected as early as Monday to call for a national boycott of the film “Tropic Thunder” because of what the groups consider the movie’s open ridicule of the intellectually disabled.
The film, a movie-industry spoof directed by Ben Stiller, is set for release on Wednesday by Paramount Pictures and its DreamWorks unit.
“Not only might it happen, it will happen,” Timothy P. Shriver, chairman of the Special Olympics, said of the expected push for a boycott. Speaking by phone, Mr. Shriver said he planned to be in Los Angeles with representatives of his group and others to picket the movie’s premiere on Monday evening in this city’s Westwood district.
A particular sore point has been the film’s repeated use of the term “retard” in referring to a character, Simple Jack, who is played by Mr. Stiller in a subplot about an actor who chases an Oscar by portraying a mindless dolt.
Mr. Shriver said that he had also begun to ask members of Congress for a resolution condemning what he called the movie’s “hate speech” and calling for stronger federal support of the intellectually disabled.
“The most disappointing thing, the most incredible thing, is that nobody caught it,” said Mr. Shriver, who, as a co-producer of the DreamWorks film “Amistad,” is no stranger to the studio. He spoke of what he described as the studio’s and the filmmakers’ blatant disregard for the disabled even as they stepped carefully around other potentially offensive references, notably in a story line that has Robert Downey Jr. playing a white actor who changes his skin color to play a black soldier.
In a statement on Sunday, Chip Sullivan, a DreamWorks spokesman, said the movie was “an R-rated comedy that satirizes Hollywood and its excesses and makes its point by featuring inappropriate and over-the-top characters in ridiculous situations.” Mr. Sullivan, in the statement, added that the film was not meant to disparage or harm people with disabilities and that DreamWorks expected to work closely with disability groups in the future. But, he said, “No changes or cuts to the film will be made.”
Formal complaints about the content of films are not uncommon, but well-coordinated boycotts are fairly rare. The groups involved said that they represented millions of members and associates. Perhaps the most striking use of the tactic involved “The Last Temptation of Christ,” released in 1988. Religious groups that considered that movie’s depiction of Jesus blasphemous called for a boycott of companies owned by MCA, whose Universal unit made the film.
DreamWorks and Paramount have shown “Tropic Thunder” in more than 250 promotional screenings around the country since April, but significant complaints came only recently, when marketing materials for the movie caught the attention of advocates for the disabled. The tag line on one mock promotional poster on a Web site, since removed, read, “Once upon a time there was a retard.”
Over the weekend an ad-hoc coalition of more than a dozen disabilities groups — including the Arc of the United States, the National Down Syndrome Congress, the American Association of People With Disabilities and others — laid the groundwork for public protests to begin Monday.
The groups refrained from formally asking that viewers boycott the movie, pending informational screenings that were scheduled for their members at eight locations around the country on Monday morning.
But representatives of the National Down Syndrome Congress saw the movie at one such screening on Friday and immediately advised fellow advocates to expect a film sufficiently offensive to justify mass action.
“I came out feeling like I had been assaulted,” said David C. Tolleson, executive director of the Down syndrome group who saw the movie.
Mr. Tolleson and Peter V. Berns, executive director of the Arc of the United States, said on Sunday that they could not recall a similar coalition of disabilities groups forming against a film. Mr. Berns noted that some people had objected to the use of the word “retarded” in “Napoleon Dynamite,” a comedy released by Fox Searchlight and Paramount’s MTV Films unit in 2004.
“But there’s really been nothing near this magnitude,” Mr. Berns said.
In earlier interviews with The New York Times, Mr. Stiller and Stacey Snider, chief executive of the DreamWorks unit, said the movie’s humor was aimed not at the disabled but at the foolishness of actors who will go to any length in advancing their careers.
After meetings and conference calls with Ms. Snider and others, the studio altered some television advertising, but declined to edit scenes from the movie.
“Tropic Thunder” is likely to be the last movie released by DreamWorks before its top executives — Steven Spielberg, David Geffen and Ms. Snider — formally announce their plans to become aligned with a new company to be financed by Reliance Big Entertainment of India. The three will continue to be involved with at least a dozen films at Paramount but are expected gradually to shift their energies to the new enterprise, which will probably distribute its movies through another studio.
Mr. Shriver said that he had spoken with Ms. Snider and others at DreamWorks about “Tropic Thunder” and came away convinced that they had no plans for mitigating measures.
Their response, he said, convinced him that the time had come for his group and others to strike a far more aggressive public posture on behalf of the disabled. “The movement needs to enter the public eye and not just be talking among ourselves,” he said.



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I watched the video movie trailer and I can’t see any Libturd movie critic giving this film a “thumbs-up”.
The movie appears to savage nearly every aspect of Hollywood, Politically Correct or otherwise.
IT SHOULD BE A HUGE HIT!

August 11th, 2008 at 8:38 pmI wonder if Dustin Hoffman caught this much shit for “Rain Man” - oh wait, he got an OSCAR for that.
Fuck these people and their hypocrisy. Like most groups that claim to “advance” a select group, all they do is make them the victims of some sort. Several actors have played developmentally disabled characters to rave reviews, including Leonardo DiCaprio, Giovanni Ribisi, Juliette Lewis and many other respected actors. I don’t recall hearing too many complaints about them.
Although Rosie O Donnell’s portrayal of one was pretty bad….
August 11th, 2008 at 8:42 pmYeah this movie looks hilarious! i could use a good laugh right now so ill be going to see this one
August 11th, 2008 at 8:54 pmI’m going to see the movie no matter what anyone says, it looks awesome.
August 11th, 2008 at 8:54 pmI forgot about Rainman …
August 11th, 2008 at 8:59 pmMy rule of thumb is simple:
If the critics hate it, I’ll probably like it…and vice-versa.
I don’t like some putz tellin’ me what I’m SUPPOSED to like.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:10 pmdrillanwr:
Have you seen “Swing Vote” with Kevin Costner yet? (I mentioned this on another post.) It’s a riot. It’s a spoof on the Democratic and Republican parties flip-flopping to get votes. However, the incumbent Republican president comes out heads and tails above his opponent.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:14 pmEver since Robert Downey Jr. Has sobered up and gotten out of rehab he seems to be more intellectually focused and conservative leaning. I like what he says about what his character portrays about hollywood types and their self-importance.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:18 pmI did see your comment regarding Swing Vote … Might check that one out too …
A couple months ago (I think it was ‘Italian’ Vanity Fair???) did an article on Downey Jr. … He’s really into his kid … nags him to study and eat right … He, himself is on this health kick … still shades of ‘Hollywood’ in therewith some “Eastern” stuff he’s into … but whatever works to keep the demons away.
August 11th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
I love un p.c. humor
August 12th, 2008 at 1:31 am“A coalition of disabilities groups is expected as early as Monday to call for a national boycott of the film “Tropic Thunder” because of what the groups consider the movie’s open ridicule of the intellectually disabled.”
They better boycott South Boston then, I went to school with a bunch of Southies and their favorite slur was “retahd”. I don’t think they could say “intellectually disabled” and still have the same sarcasm attached to it. Ya fuckin’ retahd.
August 12th, 2008 at 3:54 amThat shriver is a retard.
August 12th, 2008 at 4:02 amOMG
Since when did the First Amendment extend to people as long as it can’t possible offend others.
By that logic, the war protesters should be condemned, fined, and locked up…wow I think I”m onto something here. If you can call for the end of the use of words such as N****r, Retard, kike, etc, why can’t we get rid of the war protesters?
August 12th, 2008 at 4:13 amBlack people don’t care about Downey wearing “black face” in this movie. The only thing I have heard anyone black say about this movie is that it looks funny and they want to see it.
August 12th, 2008 at 4:43 am…and White Men Can’t Jump either, when will we ever learn our place.
August 12th, 2008 at 4:57 amI am a black man, and I for one (*disclaimer*by no way am I the spokesman for all black men) Am quite looking forward to seeing this movie! To see Downey Jr. don “black face” and to have another black man in the movie calling him out on it. OMG I am so willing to give money to watch this. I’ve also noticed the pictures, did you see Downey Jr’s hair? With the pork chop side burns… so freakin awesome!
All of the black men I speak to about it say, its not on their radar or they look forward to seeing it..
Dave Chapelle plays the role of a white reporter
Eddie Murphy has played the role of every nationality known to man!
The Wayans took it further and played white chicks…LOL
All I have to say is make me laugh!
August 12th, 2008 at 5:54 amSo what, the fewer brothers that go see it the less likely Ill have to turn around in the middle of it to tell some asshole to shut the fuck up already.
Shit looks funny to me.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:27 amI am the mother of a disabled child. He is severely developmentally delayed. Nice way of saying my son is retarded. I am not offended. Reality is… everyone is different. My son who can’t write his ABCs at 9 yrs old and reads people quickly and know how to push every button they have. He also has an incredibly caring heart. More so than most “normal” people I know. I was blessed with this special child. We make fun of just about every group of people out there. People have forgotten how to laugh at themselves. What next no more blonde jokes?
I was once told that Children with Downs Syndrome were born without the hate gene. I believe that. They are very sweet caring people.
August 12th, 2008 at 6:39 amI was once told that Children with Downs Syndrome were born without the hate gene. I believe that. They are very sweet caring people.
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Well, perhaps … But my DS daughter can use her ‘temper’ gene at will …
August 12th, 2008 at 7:47 amI saw this movie last month as part of a market test. the movie is a riot all the way around. off all of the characters there are two that stand out, downey was great and the “controversy” is just marketing hype, it was great. and then there is the surprise hit of that movie in my mind, i can’t stand him and you will know him well but he is great…btw he is not mentioned in any of the movie promos.
great flick…ending falls apart, but hey LOL the whole time. go see it.
August 12th, 2008 at 7:53 amdrillanwr:
It takes special people to have special kids. Have you ever read “Welcome To Holland” ? It is worth googling and reading.
My loving little guy has the temper gene too. Mostly out of frustration though. He has a hard time communicating and processing thoughts and ideas at times. But when does get his thoughts across it amazes me the perspective he has on life.
August 12th, 2008 at 10:21 amAmidst all the controversy, I found I just wasn’t ready to laugh at soldiers at war. Too many people on both sides are coming back with missing arms or legs or not coming back at all for me to find it funny. I love the actors in this film, but plan to miss it. I have also had the good fortune to get to know someone w/ Down’s and wouldn’t be amused at that kind of abuse. She died of heart complications. That being said, long live the Constitution. I just hope people who see it realize that it can be hurtful.
August 12th, 2008 at 3:21 pm