“Joe The Plumber” Hacker Delivers Bullshit Explanation To Ohio Senate

October 30th, 2008 Posted By Erik Wong.

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Checks on ‘Joe’ more extensive than first acknowledged
Tax, welfare info also sought on McCain ally

By Randy Ludlow - (The Columbus Dispatch)

A state agency has revealed that its checks of computer systems for potential information on “Joe the Plumber” were more extensive than it first acknowledged.

Helen Jones-Kelley, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, disclosed today that computer inquiries on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher were not restricted to a child-support system.

The agency also checked Wurzelbacher in its computer systems to determine whether he was receiving welfare assistance or owed unemployment compensation taxes, she wrote.

Jones-Kelley made the revelations in a letter to Ohio Senate President Bill M. Harris, R-Ashland, who demanded answers on why state officials checked out Wurzelbacher.

Harris called the multiple records checks “questionable” and said he awaits more answers. “It’s kind of like Big Brother is looking in your pocket,” he said.

If state employees run checks on every person listed in newspaper stories as buying a business, “it must take a lot of people a lot of time to run these checks,” he said. “Where do you draw the line?”

The checks were run after the news media reported that Wurzelbacher was considering buying a plumbing business with more than $250,000 in annual income, Jones-Kelley wrote.

“Given our understanding that Mr. Wurzelbacher had publicly indicated that he had the means to purchase a substantial business enterprise, ODJFS, consistent with past departmental practice, checked confidential databases ,” she wrote.

Me: BULLSHIT! Joe said he might want to someday buy the business from his boss … He never said he had any money on hand to do so … Usually, when someone indicates buying a business it involves either investors or bank loans … For her to assume anything outside that is BULLSHIT!

“Not surprisingly, when a person behind in child support payments or receiving public assistance is receiving significant media attention which suggests that the person appears to have available financial resources, the Department risks justifiable criticism if it fails to take note and respond,” Jones-Kelley wrote.

Me: Well, by that thinking the fucking state of Ohio’s child support and public assist. programs should NOT be in the BULLSHIT mess they are in …

The results of the searches were not publicly released and remain confidential, she wrote. Wurzelbacher has said he is not involved in a child-support case and has not purchased any business.

Jones-Kelley wrote that the checks were “well-meaning,” but misinterpreted amid the heated final weeks of a presidential election.

Me: BULLSHIT! There ya go, deflecting responsibility onto the public and media.

Wurzelbacher became a household name when Republican presidential hopeful John McCain frequently referred to “Joe the Plumber” during his Oct. 15 debate with Democrat nominee Barack Obama. The checks began the next day.

Wurzelbacher, who has endorsed and campaigned for McCain, had been caught on videotape challenging Obama about his tax proposals during a campaign visit to “Joe’s” neighborhood in the Toledo suburb of Holland.

Republicans have painted the checks on Wurzelbacher as a politically motivated bid by Democrats to dig up dirt and discredit the McCain ally. The Obama campaign has said it has no ties to the checks and supports investigations.

The administration of Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland has said the information was not improperly shared and that there were no political motives behind the checks.

The Dispatch has uncovered four uses of state computer systems to access personal information on Wurzelbacher, including the child-support check authorized by Jones-Kelley.

She said on Monday that her department frequently runs checks for any unpaid child support obligations “when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight.”

Republican legislators have challenged Jones-Kelley’s reason for checking on Wurzelbacher as “frightening” and flimsy.

Jones-Kelly also has denied any connections between the computer checks on Wurzelbacher and her support for Obama. She donated the maximum $2,500 this year to the Obama campaign.

Ohio Inspector General Thomas P. Charles is investigating whether the child-support check on Wurzelbacher was legal.

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2 Responses to ““Joe The Plumber” Hacker Delivers Bullshit Explanation To Ohio Senate”

  1. ALICE

    I THINK IT IS NOT RIGHT FOR CHILD SUPPORT AGENCY TO PRY INTO PEOPLES BACKGROUND OR THIER LIVES. THEY SHOULD DO THEIR JOBS AND FINE OUT ABOUT THE WOMEN THEY GIVE SUPPORT TO. IF A WOMAN GOES TO THE WELFARE OFFICE FOR HELP BECAUSE SH GOT HER SELF KNOCKED UP AND SHE HAS NO MEANS FOR SUPPORT FINE BUT IF SHE WAS KNOCKED UP AND SHE MARRIES A MAN JUST FOR HIS LAST NAME FOR THAT KID WY SHOULD THAT MAN PAY CHILD SUPPORT TWICE IN HIS LIFE TIME HE TOLD THE COURT, WELFARE AND ANTONE THAT WOULD LISTEN TO HIM THAT THE KID THIS WOMAN IS CARRING IS NOT MINE AND THE BLOOD TEST ALMOST STATES THAT FACT THE BLOOD TEST SAID THAT THIS MAN CAN NOT BE EXCLUDED BUT IT DOES NOT COME RIGHT OUT AND SAY THAT HE IS THE FATHER OF THAT KID SO WHY SHOULD HE PAY FOR THE MISTAKE OF THE WOMAN AND WHEN THE WOMAN SIGNS A PAPER STATING THAT IF SHE GET A CHILD SUPPORT ORDER THAT THE STATE OF OHIO CAN HAVE THE CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENT FOR HER GETTING ADC NOT THIHS IS NOT RIGHT THE WOMAN SHOULD PAY THAT MONEY BACK TO THE STATE NOT THE MAN THAT THIS WOMAN SAYS IS THE FATHER OF HER KID IF THE SO CALLED FATHER CAN NOT HAVE VISITATION WITH THE KID BECAUSE THE WOMAN SAID NO
    BUT SHE WANTS THE FOR SUPPORT BUT THE SO CALLED FATHER HAS NO RIGHTS WHAT SO EVER THE CHILD SUPPORT SYSTEM IS NOT FAIR TO THE MEN OF OHIO THE STATE SHOULD CLOSE DOWN ALL THE CHILD SUPORT AGENCY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO RUN THE OFFICES.

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