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	<title>Comments on: Breaking: &#8220;Mob Rule&#8221; House Passes Un-Constitutional Tax Bill</title>
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		<title>By: AFITgrad86</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412984</link>
		<dc:creator>AFITgrad86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more update ... the tax could be overturned on this basis:

Welch v. Henery &quot;In the absence of any facts tending to show that the taxing act, in its purpose or effect, is a hostile or oppressive discrimination against the recipients of dividends who have been hitherto fortunate enough to escape all taxation we cannot say the taxing statute denies equal protection&quot;

Therefore by showing hostility or oppressive discrimination against the recipient the tax would be unconstitutional on the basis of failing the rights to equal protection and due process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more update &#8230; the tax could be overturned on this basis:</p>
<p>Welch v. Henery &#8220;In the absence of any facts tending to show that the taxing act, in its purpose or effect, is a hostile or oppressive discrimination against the recipients of dividends who have been hitherto fortunate enough to escape all taxation we cannot say the taxing statute denies equal protection&#8221;</p>
<p>Therefore by showing hostility or oppressive discrimination against the recipient the tax would be unconstitutional on the basis of failing the rights to equal protection and due process.</p>
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		<title>By: AFITgrad86</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412959</link>
		<dc:creator>AFITgrad86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot the punch line ...

&quot;In the 1994 opinion United States v. Carlton, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously held that retroactive tax laws did not violate the constitutional prohibition on ex post facto legislation.&quot;

Now that&#039;s good reason for us to quake in our boots ... imagine a retroactive tax increase for all of us to fund this idiot administration&#039;s social welfare programs.  How about rescinding the Bush tax cuts and making all citizens file amended returns for the past 3 years? That would be just as legal.  Holy Shit!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot the punch line &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;In the 1994 opinion United States v. Carlton, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously held that retroactive tax laws did not violate the constitutional prohibition on ex post facto legislation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s good reason for us to quake in our boots &#8230; imagine a retroactive tax increase for all of us to fund this idiot administration&#8217;s social welfare programs.  How about rescinding the Bush tax cuts and making all citizens file amended returns for the past 3 years? That would be just as legal.  Holy Shit!!</p>
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		<title>By: AFITgrad86</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412956</link>
		<dc:creator>AFITgrad86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the same but &quot;Administrative&quot; law (Taxation) has been exempted.  Wikipedia holds that:
&quot;A large &quot;exception&quot; to the ex post facto prohibition can be found in administrative law, as federal agencies may apply their rules retroactively if Congress has authorized them to do so. Retroactive application is disfavored by the courts for a number of reasons,[4] but Congress may grant agencies this authority through express statutory provision. Furthermore, when an agency engages in adjudication, it may apply its own policy goals and interpretation of statutes retroactively, even if it has not formally promulgated a rule on a subject.&quot;

This is one for the courts and I suspect it will go there....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the same but &#8220;Administrative&#8221; law (Taxation) has been exempted.  Wikipedia holds that:<br />
&#8220;A large &#8220;exception&#8221; to the ex post facto prohibition can be found in administrative law, as federal agencies may apply their rules retroactively if Congress has authorized them to do so. Retroactive application is disfavored by the courts for a number of reasons,[4] but Congress may grant agencies this authority through express statutory provision. Furthermore, when an agency engages in adjudication, it may apply its own policy goals and interpretation of statutes retroactively, even if it has not formally promulgated a rule on a subject.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is one for the courts and I suspect it will go there&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: xcrypto</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412831</link>
		<dc:creator>xcrypto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NMPatriot (AKA RacerRick) ... I&#039;m in</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NMPatriot (AKA RacerRick) &#8230; I&#8217;m in</p>
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		<title>By: xcrypto</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412766</link>
		<dc:creator>xcrypto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to break out your &quot;Turner Diaries&quot;. These despots are out of control. This is why we &quot;cling&quot; to our guns. Who in Washington is going to stand up to the fact that this is outside the Constitution? We do not give them the power to tax so they can use it to punish!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to break out your &#8220;Turner Diaries&#8221;. These despots are out of control. This is why we &#8220;cling&#8221; to our guns. Who in Washington is going to stand up to the fact that this is outside the Constitution? We do not give them the power to tax so they can use it to punish!</p>
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		<title>By: NMPatriot (AKA RacerRick)</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412543</link>
		<dc:creator>NMPatriot (AKA RacerRick)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The perexisting contracts for the bonuses are binding and should be honored. They have indeed set a dangerous precedent. What&#039;s next??? 
Maybe a lot of commotion over this issue to hide the fact that the Fed cut another $1 Trillion check today?


Very few of these politicians realize they work for us, not the inverse. This country is, and rightfully so, on the verge of a violent revolution.

I&#039;m in....

NM Patriot :gun:  :gun:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The perexisting contracts for the bonuses are binding and should be honored. They have indeed set a dangerous precedent. What&#8217;s next???<br />
Maybe a lot of commotion over this issue to hide the fact that the Fed cut another $1 Trillion check today?</p>
<p>Very few of these politicians realize they work for us, not the inverse. This country is, and rightfully so, on the verge of a violent revolution.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in&#8230;.</p>
<p>NM Patriot :gun:  :gun:</p>
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		<title>By: cclezel</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412420</link>
		<dc:creator>cclezel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Congressman, Eric Contor voted on this bill!  Here is my email to him regarding his vote.  :mad:   :mad: 

In regards to the vote to tax AIG bonuses you failed to stay on principal.  All I ask is for my representatives to act on the principals of our Constitution laid out by our founders.  Article 1 Sect 9 of the United States Constitution states:

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

You have set a dangerous precendent outside the boundaries of our Constitution by enacting law that is a violation of this very article.  We now have lost another freedom our founders thought were essential.  I am frustrated by the blatant disregard of the principals laid out by our founders in regards to the limitations placed on our Federal government.

  As angry as I am about the bonuses it pales in comparison to the failures of our government in regards to both our Constitution and our tax dollars.  Chris Dodd lied to the American people when he denied knowing anything about the stimulus containing a section that protected the bonuses and then eventually admits to it.  Will he be held accoutable?  I doubt it.

  You also voted for the TARP fund instead of forcing AIG and other buisnesses to file for bankruptsy.  Now we are dealing with the fiasco CREATED by our government that has resulted in hundreds of millions in bonuses and 58 billion in taxpayers money being filtered through AIG to Euopean banks WITHOUT our consent or knowledge and trillions more in failed buisnesses.  Now our grandchildren will be burden with our mistakes.

  I simply will not support anyone, Rep or Dem if they will not uphold the very articles of the Constitution as you had sworn to do upon taking office.  You sir, have let down the American people and most of all your constituents.

Sincerely,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Congressman, Eric Contor voted on this bill!  Here is my email to him regarding his vote.  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' />    <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>In regards to the vote to tax AIG bonuses you failed to stay on principal.  All I ask is for my representatives to act on the principals of our Constitution laid out by our founders.  Article 1 Sect 9 of the United States Constitution states:</p>
<p>No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.</p>
<p>You have set a dangerous precendent outside the boundaries of our Constitution by enacting law that is a violation of this very article.  We now have lost another freedom our founders thought were essential.  I am frustrated by the blatant disregard of the principals laid out by our founders in regards to the limitations placed on our Federal government.</p>
<p>  As angry as I am about the bonuses it pales in comparison to the failures of our government in regards to both our Constitution and our tax dollars.  Chris Dodd lied to the American people when he denied knowing anything about the stimulus containing a section that protected the bonuses and then eventually admits to it.  Will he be held accoutable?  I doubt it.</p>
<p>  You also voted for the TARP fund instead of forcing AIG and other buisnesses to file for bankruptsy.  Now we are dealing with the fiasco CREATED by our government that has resulted in hundreds of millions in bonuses and 58 billion in taxpayers money being filtered through AIG to Euopean banks WITHOUT our consent or knowledge and trillions more in failed buisnesses.  Now our grandchildren will be burden with our mistakes.</p>
<p>  I simply will not support anyone, Rep or Dem if they will not uphold the very articles of the Constitution as you had sworn to do upon taking office.  You sir, have let down the American people and most of all your constituents.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
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		<title>By: kurt(the infidel)</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412413</link>
		<dc:creator>kurt(the infidel)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep that anger and do not let him back in just because he does the right thing next time. because a politician is a politician. just when you&#039;re comfortable with them again you will get screwed once more. 

im done with both parties. i say we just start a new one. trial and error for a while with a new party would be better than the two already &quot;established&quot; parties consistently screwing up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep that anger and do not let him back in just because he does the right thing next time. because a politician is a politician. just when you&#8217;re comfortable with them again you will get screwed once more. </p>
<p>im done with both parties. i say we just start a new one. trial and error for a while with a new party would be better than the two already &#8220;established&#8221; parties consistently screwing up.</p>
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		<title>By: cclezel</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412400</link>
		<dc:creator>cclezel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own fking Congressman voted for this!  Eric Cantor, I am officially done with you.  I wash my hands of you and your ilk.  You are nothing but a RINO~!  :mad:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own fking Congressman voted for this!  Eric Cantor, I am officially done with you.  I wash my hands of you and your ilk.  You are nothing but a RINO~!  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif' alt=':mad:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/03/breaking-mob-rule-house-passes-un-constitutional-tax-bill/#comment-412339</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a deliberate trial balloon, to set a precedent, for their eventual 90% tax rate on the general public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a deliberate trial balloon, to set a precedent, for their eventual 90% tax rate on the general public.</p>
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