Comments on: Drill’s Going Gun Shopping http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/ The War Starts Here Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:53:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Mr. Standfast http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-401058 Mr. Standfast Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:56:13 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-401058 Maggie, Here is a great place to go shopping for a good pistol. Most of the weapons sold are from police departments. Some are new and some are used but have been well maintained. I'm a fan of the 45 acp. Why? Simple. When Dillinger was asked why he carried two 45s he answered I shot a man with a 38 and he shot back. Good hunting :gun: http://www.summitgunbroker.com/index.html Maggie, Here is a great place to go shopping for a good pistol. Most of the weapons sold are from police departments. Some are new and some are used but have been well maintained. I’m a fan of the 45 acp. Why? Simple. When Dillinger was asked why he carried two 45s he answered I shot a man with a 38 and he shot back. Good hunting :gun:
http://www.summitgunbroker.com/index.html

]]> By: Drillanwr (Constitutional Crusader) http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400970 Drillanwr (Constitutional Crusader) Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:09:31 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400970 :arrow: dogbert41 Hair is pretty close, face is similar, but that babe's got MORE boob-job bailout than I was asking for. And my hips are more a size 6 ... That camel's built for a LONG ride through the desert, baby. :shock: :arrow: Guys, THANKS for all the info and advice ... keep it coming. Taking major notes. nuttin' but love for yunz! :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: Maggie :gun: :gun: :gun: :arrow: dogbert41

Hair is pretty close, face is similar, but that babe’s got MORE boob-job bailout than I was asking for. And my hips are more a size 6 … That camel’s built for a LONG ride through the desert, baby. :shock:

:arrow: Guys, THANKS for all the info and advice … keep it coming. Taking major notes.

nuttin’ but love for yunz! :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

Maggie :gun: :gun: :gun:

]]> By: LCpl. Alexander http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400926 LCpl. Alexander Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:45:55 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400926 :arrow: 31Mike LOL, Hey man, just sling it across your back, no holster needed, if your AR jams or malfunctions throw the sucker down and break out the AK. Pistols just dont have the punch or the capacity to sling lead in a firefight like you need them to. Although carrying 210 rounds of AR and 210 rounds of AK ammo may be a touch cumbersome, its worth it, when you need it. :beer: :gun: But you know, pistols ARE for girls, so if you have to drill, you know, I guess a pistol would be ok. :roll: Hehe, j/k j/k. :arrow: 31Mike

LOL, Hey man, just sling it across your back, no holster needed, if your AR jams or malfunctions throw the sucker down and break out the AK. Pistols just dont have the punch or the capacity to sling lead in a firefight like you need them to. Although carrying 210 rounds of AR and 210 rounds of AK ammo may be a touch cumbersome, its worth it, when you need it. :beer: :gun: But you know, pistols ARE for girls, so if you have to drill, you know, I guess a pistol would be ok. :roll: Hehe, j/k j/k.

]]> By: dogbert41 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400914 dogbert41 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:24:21 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400914 Hey Dril, I have one of those Ruger 345s. Listen to me ok? Whatever gun you get, you'll want one that you can play with alot practicing dry firing. The Ruger 345 isn't that gun. I broke mine dry firing once. Plus, it's really LOUD dry firing. It'll eventually damage your ears. SERIOUSLY. You don't want to be sitting around at home in front of the TV dry firing at all those bastards with ear muffs on. OK, that out of the way, here's my suggestion if you want a semi-auto: A Springfield XD-9 or better the XDM-9 which is newer and costs a bit more. The nine is really pleasant to shoot and you can shoot it all day long. It's also got some very good defensive ammo available that make todays 9mm work as good as yesterday's .45. Of course today's .45 can do what Civil War muskets could do... Anyway, the grip is adjustable to fit your hand on the XDM, and it shoots really nice, and you can dry fire it all day long without harm to the gun or your ears. Many prefer them over the Glocks. With the Ruger 345 you have 7 rounds, plus one in the chamber. With the Springfiled XDM you have 19 rounds, plus one? Not bad eh? PS Is that your pic???? :shock: Hey Dril, I have one of those Ruger 345s. Listen to me ok? Whatever gun you get, you’ll want one that you can play with alot practicing dry firing. The Ruger 345 isn’t that gun. I broke mine dry firing once. Plus, it’s really LOUD dry firing. It’ll eventually damage your ears. SERIOUSLY.

You don’t want to be sitting around at home in front of the TV dry firing at all those bastards with ear muffs on.

OK, that out of the way, here’s my suggestion if you want a semi-auto: A Springfield XD-9 or better the XDM-9 which is newer and costs a bit more. The nine is really pleasant to shoot and you can shoot it all day long. It’s also got some very good defensive ammo available that make todays 9mm work as good as yesterday’s .45.

Of course today’s .45 can do what Civil War muskets could do…

Anyway, the grip is adjustable to fit your hand on the XDM, and it shoots really nice, and you can dry fire it all day long without harm to the gun or your ears. Many prefer them over the Glocks. With the Ruger 345 you have 7 rounds, plus one in the chamber. With the Springfiled XDM you have 19 rounds, plus one? Not bad eh?

PS Is that your pic???? :shock:

]]> By: Roland http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400907 Roland Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:16:19 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400907 Drill, I know that you mention a pistol but I think that if you are complete novices a rifle/carbine in any easy on the shoulder and easy on the ammo price cartridge is the best for your introduction to shooting. Many carbines are available in the same rounds as the handguns that you may want next. Shooters often forget that nearly all of us that grow up with guns in our lives start with long guns teaching us the basics. Shooting handguns reasonably well or better is not the easiest thing that you will learn. Get some foundational skills and confidence with a fun and practical little rifle/carbine first. Even as someone who has been a shooter since the age of five, if I were to start over from an empty safe, a carbine as I have described and a handgun for the same round would be the first two purchases. Drill,

I know that you mention a pistol but I think that if you are complete novices a rifle/carbine in any easy on the shoulder and easy on the ammo price cartridge is the best for your introduction to shooting. Many carbines are available in the same rounds as the handguns that you may want next.

Shooters often forget that nearly all of us that grow up with guns in our lives start with long guns teaching us the basics. Shooting handguns reasonably well or better is not the easiest thing that you will learn. Get some foundational skills and confidence with a fun and practical little rifle/carbine first.

Even as someone who has been a shooter since the age of five, if I were to start over from an empty safe, a carbine as I have described and a handgun for the same round would be the first two purchases.

]]> By: Jenny-O http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400872 Jenny-O Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:22:39 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400872 Drill Im kinda with Hardball on this. The thing is you might want to start on a 9mm glock 19 or 17, but after a few hundred rounds you are gonna want something bigger.. So rent the glock and if you buy a 1911 you wont regret it... I chose the XD-45 because its a bit cheaper and feels good to me. But Im going to get a 1911 too as soon as I have the funds. And having an 18" 12 gauge in the house is a must...Im still shopping for mine :oops: Anyways, get to practicing woman! Drill Im kinda with Hardball on this. The thing is you might want to start on a 9mm glock 19 or 17, but after a few hundred rounds you are gonna want something bigger.. So rent the glock and if you buy a 1911 you wont regret it… I chose the XD-45 because its a bit cheaper and feels good to me. But Im going to get a 1911 too as soon as I have the funds. And having an 18″ 12 gauge in the house is a must…Im still shopping for mine :oops: Anyways, get to practicing woman!

]]> By: unkaglen http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400836 unkaglen Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:21:18 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400836 I feel the best auto hand gun on the market is the old tried and true M1911. The .45 caliber has sever stopping power, while the gun really doesn't have that much recoil. I would also recomend a cartridge such as the .45 as it is very common and easier to find than say a .40 caliber. Strap on a set of Crimson Trace laser grips and you be one bad ass bitter/clinger with accurate, brutal stoppig power. :lol: :gun: I feel the best auto hand gun on the market is the old tried and true M1911. The .45 caliber has sever stopping power, while the gun really doesn’t have that much recoil.
I would also recomend a cartridge such as the .45 as it is very common and easier to find than say a .40 caliber.
Strap on a set of Crimson Trace laser grips and you be one bad ass bitter/clinger with accurate, brutal stoppig power.
:lol: :gun:

]]> By: Somefed http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400821 Somefed Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:11:14 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400821 As a Federal Fire arms instructor and a civilian CCW trainer I can tell you that the problem that most people have when you ask for their opinion on Guns is that everyone has one. You can tell who KNOWS what they’re talking about and who THINKS they know what they are talking about. That being said I would tell you first and for most find a trainer to teach how to handle and shoot a firearm. Most gun shops have one that they can recommend. Next remember that Guys and women are different ….Most women can’t rack the slide on an auto very well….or if the person is older it might just as well be as hard for them too. So try both an auto and a revolver…a good trainer should have both for you to try. Also they should be starting you out with a .22 revolver and an auto to work on fundamentals of shooting. If you can’t hit what you’re shooting at then all you have is a heavy club in your hands. Most people aren’t trained in CQB so having a long gun or shot gun for home defense is stupid. And not to mention that you don’t want to be shooting thru walls. If you have kids our live in an apartment or have people close by this is something you have to think about. Remember that every bullet as an Attorney attached to it. That being said I think for home defense you should have a Gun and caliber that you can get Safety ammo for….I always tell people to keep a loaded Revolver in the house with Mag safe .38 +P ammo loaded with a Flash light and one reload right next to the gun. It’s easy to use and any one can use i.e.….wife, older kids, and you. Most of All get Training to learn how to shoot and then find a gun that you can use and use with skill. Next is look at how much ammo is. It’s not cheap any more…..so if you get a .45 maybe getting a .22 to practice with is a good Idea too. The more you practice the more you’ll hit when the shit hits the fan. Also look at Gun Forms and do your research on the gun you want. It’s just like buying a Car. Good luck and I hope this helps As a Federal Fire arms instructor and a civilian CCW trainer I can tell you that the problem that most people have when you ask for their opinion on Guns is that everyone has one. You can tell who KNOWS what they’re talking about and who THINKS they know what they are talking about.
That being said I would tell you first and for most find a trainer to teach how to handle and shoot a firearm. Most gun shops have one that they can recommend. Next remember that Guys and women are different ….Most women can’t rack the slide on an auto very well….or if the person is older it might just as well be as hard for them too. So try both an auto and a revolver…a good trainer should have both for you to try. Also they should be starting you out with a .22 revolver and an auto to work on fundamentals of shooting. If you can’t hit what you’re shooting at then all you have is a heavy club in your hands.
Most people aren’t trained in CQB so having a long gun or shot gun for home defense is stupid. And not to mention that you don’t want to be shooting thru walls. If you have kids our live in an apartment or have people close by this is something you have to think about. Remember that every bullet as an Attorney attached to it. That being said I think for home defense you should have a Gun and caliber that you can get Safety ammo for….I always tell people to keep a loaded Revolver in the house with Mag safe .38 +P ammo loaded with a Flash light and one reload right next to the gun. It’s easy to use and any one can use i.e.….wife, older kids, and you.
Most of All get Training to learn how to shoot and then find a gun that you can use and use with skill. Next is look at how much ammo is. It’s not cheap any more…..so if you get a .45 maybe getting a .22 to practice with is a good Idea too. The more you practice the more you’ll hit when the shit hits the fan. Also look at Gun Forms and do your research on the gun you want. It’s just like buying a Car.
Good luck and I hope this helps

]]> By: 31Mike http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400763 31Mike Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:56:58 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400763 :arrow: LCpl. Alexander Your battle weapon should be the trusty AR-15(as long as you keep it clean) and your sidearm should be the reliabe AK-74. --------------------------------------------------------- HaHaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like to see a holster for that AK. :arrow: LCpl. Alexander

Your battle weapon should be the trusty AR-15(as long as you keep it clean) and your sidearm should be the reliabe AK-74.
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HaHaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like to see a holster for that AK.

]]> By: LCpl. Alexander http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400755 LCpl. Alexander Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:50:59 +0000 http://patdollard.com/2009/03/drills-going-gun-shopping/#comment-400755 Your battle weapon should be the trusty AR-15(as long as you keep it clean) and your sidearm should be the reliabe AK-74. Your battle weapon should be the trusty AR-15(as long as you keep it clean) and your sidearm should be the reliabe AK-74.

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