Comments on: Government Withholds Evidence – Soldier Given 25 Years For Killing Al Qaeda – Haditha Part Two http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/ The War Starts Here Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:49:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: BB http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-468912 BB Wed, 10 Jun 2009 04:31:31 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-468912 The information Iraqi Vet submitted is accurate according to the transcripts, except for the thermite grenade, which was placed under Ali Mansur's head by another Soldier. Iraqi Vet is also correct when he states that the 1LT did not have the authority to interrogate the prisoner, and for more information on who can and cannot conduct interrogations, check out The U.S. Army Intelligence and Interrogation Handbook, which spells it all out. It also merits mentioning that according to court transcripts Mansur was killed with a Glock pistol, not Behenna's issued weapon, which further calls into question Behenna's motives and intentions. The information Iraqi Vet submitted is accurate according to the transcripts, except for the thermite grenade, which was placed under Ali Mansur’s head by another Soldier. Iraqi Vet is also correct when he states that the 1LT did not have the authority to interrogate the prisoner, and for more information on who can and cannot conduct interrogations, check out The U.S. Army Intelligence and Interrogation Handbook, which spells it all out. It also merits mentioning that according to court transcripts Mansur was killed with a Glock pistol, not Behenna’s issued weapon, which further calls into question Behenna’s motives and intentions.

]]> By: on LT Behenna's behalf http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-423897 on LT Behenna's behalf Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:01:16 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-423897 Again, get your facts straight. You accused the LT of beating Ali Mansur, placing a grenade under his head, and lying about it. None of which is accurate. You have reposted information that has been reported in the media. The media accounts are not accurate and were not taken from actual sworn testimony given during the court-martial. As for the LT's duties, unless you are the LT or his commanding officer, you cannot comment on them. I am not going to correct your account of the events of May 16th because I don't have to, the evidence (all of it, even the evidence the prosecution concealed), and testimony speaks for itself. If you don't want to support the LT, then that is your choice. But please do not regurgitate 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. hand information to support your stance. At least give the LT the respect of using actual sworn testimony when posting on a website that is in support of this LT. As for the whole story, unless you were present on May 16th, in the courtroom, or have access to transcripts, then you have no idea what the whole story is! Again, get your facts straight. You accused the LT of beating Ali Mansur, placing a grenade under his head, and lying about it. None of which is accurate.

You have reposted information that has been reported in the media. The media accounts are not accurate and were not taken from actual sworn testimony given during the court-martial. As for the LT’s duties, unless you are the LT or his commanding officer, you cannot comment on them.

I am not going to correct your account of the events of May 16th because I don’t have to, the evidence (all of it, even the evidence the prosecution concealed), and testimony speaks for itself.

If you don’t want to support the LT, then that is your choice. But please do not regurgitate 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. hand information to support your stance. At least give the LT the respect of using actual sworn testimony when posting on a website that is in support of this LT.

As for the whole story, unless you were present on May 16th, in the courtroom, or have access to transcripts, then you have no idea what the whole story is!

]]> By: Iraq Vet http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-423522 Iraq Vet Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:31:56 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-423522 OK...Fact #1) A 1LT DOES NOT have the authority to interrogate an individual on his own after the Army's trained interrogators have deemed there was not sufficient evidence to hold Mansur. Fact #2) Mansur was found shot and burned with a thermite grenade residue present. Fact #3) As this website states, 1LT Behenna did not properly report the incident to his chain of command. Last time I was asked whether I had accomplished my mission or not it was either Yes Sir I did as I was instructed or No Sir I did not follow my orders as directed, or finally a person could lie and say they accomplished their mission until they got caught or someone talked. The final fact is, had 1LT Behenna dropped Mansur off where and when he was supposed to, none of tis would have happened. If I go in to rob a bank and the bank teller reaches for my gun and I shoot them and then claim self defense...sounds a little weak on my part. There have been hundreds of thousands of Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen who have fought in Iraq, followed there orders and did not decide to interrogate an individual after they had been ordered to be released. As sad as the situation is and as traumatized 1LT Behenna is from losing two of his Soldiers (remember, I have lost some of my friends and Soldiers over there) it is inncorrect to omit all of the facts that occured that day on a website, get people fired up and conveniently leave out the fact that 1LT Behenna and SSG Warner were both operating out of the confines of their authority. So am I spreading lies..NO. Are you failing to tell the whole story...YES. As I stated before, I feel sorry for his family and friends. No parent should have to experience something like this. However, 1LT Behenna was an adult that made a decision that has had consequences. Either way it is a sad situation. OK…Fact #1) A 1LT DOES NOT have the authority to interrogate an individual on his own after the Army’s trained interrogators have deemed there was not sufficient evidence to hold Mansur. Fact #2) Mansur was found shot and burned with a thermite grenade residue present. Fact #3) As this website states, 1LT Behenna did not properly report the incident to his chain of command. Last time I was asked whether I had accomplished my mission or not it was either Yes Sir I did as I was instructed or No Sir I did not follow my orders as directed, or finally a person could lie and say they accomplished their mission until they got caught or someone talked. The final fact is, had 1LT Behenna dropped Mansur off where and when he was supposed to, none of tis would have happened. If I go in to rob a bank and the bank teller reaches for my gun and I shoot them and then claim self defense…sounds a little weak on my part. There have been hundreds of thousands of Soldiers, Marines, Sailors, and Airmen who have fought in Iraq, followed there orders and did not decide to interrogate an individual after they had been ordered to be released. As sad as the situation is and as traumatized 1LT Behenna is from losing two of his Soldiers (remember, I have lost some of my friends and Soldiers over there) it is inncorrect to omit all of the facts that occured that day on a website, get people fired up and conveniently leave out the fact that 1LT Behenna and SSG Warner were both operating out of the confines of their authority. So am I spreading lies..NO. Are you failing to tell the whole story…YES. As I stated before, I feel sorry for his family and friends. No parent should have to experience something like this. However, 1LT Behenna was an adult that made a decision that has had consequences. Either way it is a sad situation.

]]> By: on LT Behenna's behalf http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-423134 on LT Behenna's behalf Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:53:29 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-423134 Get your facts straight and stop repeating false statements before you start posting lies on the internet. Unless you have written testimony supporting these accusations, then please refrain from posting incorrect information. Get your facts straight and stop repeating false statements before you start posting lies on the internet. Unless you have written testimony supporting these accusations, then please refrain from posting incorrect information.

]]> By: Iraq Vet http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-422935 Iraq Vet Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:47:39 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-422935 Although it may seem like a complete travesty, lest us not forget that a 1LT in the Army does not have the authority to "Interogate" individuals as they see fit. Furthermore, the entire situation was created by 1LT Behenna. Strip a man naked, shoot him, and then have a thermite grenade placed under the body in order to cover it up. Additionally, telling his chain of command that he had released Mansur where he was supposed to. While the prosecution was wrong in a Brady violation, this situation would have never occured had 1LT Behenna followed the legal orders he was required to follow and release Mansur. I have been to Iraq, I have lost friends. His actions places other Soldiers in more danger and gives the anti-war protesters even more ammunition. Lets not forget that 1LT Behenna also beat Mansur sensless when they first captured him. Another violation of the ROE. I feel soory for his family, but lets put all of the facts out there and quit conviently leaving out the fact that 1LT Behenna created the situation and is now paying for it. Although it may seem like a complete travesty, lest us not forget that a 1LT in the Army does not have the authority to “Interogate” individuals as they see fit. Furthermore, the entire situation was created by 1LT Behenna. Strip a man naked, shoot him, and then have a thermite grenade placed under the body in order to cover it up. Additionally, telling his chain of command that he had released Mansur where he was supposed to. While the prosecution was wrong in a Brady violation, this situation would have never occured had 1LT Behenna followed the legal orders he was required to follow and release Mansur. I have been to Iraq, I have lost friends. His actions places other Soldiers in more danger and gives the anti-war protesters even more ammunition. Lets not forget that 1LT Behenna also beat Mansur sensless when they first captured him. Another violation of the ROE. I feel soory for his family, but lets put all of the facts out there and quit conviently leaving out the fact that 1LT Behenna created the situation and is now paying for it.

]]> By: on LT Behenna's behalf http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-420873 on LT Behenna's behalf Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:00:52 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-420873 On behalf of LT Behenna and his family, thank you to everyone for your prayers and good will. Michael and his family will continue to fight for truth and justice. Please keep checking the website, defendmichael.com, for updates. Michael's new and hopefully temporary address is posted. He does not have access to the internet so snail mail will be the only way he will see how much everyone supports him. On behalf of LT Behenna and his family, thank you to everyone for your prayers and good will. Michael and his family will continue to fight for truth and justice. Please keep checking the website, defendmichael.com, for updates. Michael’s new and hopefully temporary address is posted. He does not have access to the internet so snail mail will be the only way he will see how much everyone supports him.

]]> By: on LT Behenna's behalf http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-420641 on LT Behenna's behalf Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:39:13 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-420641 On behalf of LT Behenna and his family, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT! He has been taken away from a large and supportive family so any contact with the outside world that lets him know he has the love and support from the people he signed up to protect would be greatly appreciated. On behalf of LT Behenna and his family, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT! He has been taken away from a large and supportive family so any contact with the outside world that lets him know he has the love and support from the people he signed up to protect would be greatly appreciated.

]]> By: on LT Behenna's behalf http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-420640 on LT Behenna's behalf Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:35:39 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-420640 On behalf of LT Behenna and his family, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT! By the way, he was based at Ft. Campbell, KY with the 101st and that is where the court martial was held. On behalf of LT Behenna and his family, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT! By the way, he was based at Ft. Campbell, KY with the 101st and that is where the court martial was held.

]]> By: on LT Behenna's behalf http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-420633 on LT Behenna's behalf Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:31:00 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-420633 On behalf on LT Behenna and his family, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT! On behalf on LT Behenna and his family, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT!

]]> By: on LT Behenna's behalf http://patdollard.com/2009/03/government-withholds-evidence-soldier-given-25-years-for-killing-al-qaeda-haditha-part-two/#comment-420631 on LT Behenna's behalf Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:28:45 +0000 http://patdollard.com/?p=65768#comment-420631 On behalf of LT Behenna and his family, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT! On behalf of LT Behenna and his family, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT!

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