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We Just Became Less Safe On Planes … Post 9-11



Mar 17, 2009 8 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

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Wa Times:

Guns on a plane
Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

After the September 11 attacks, commercial airline pilots were allowed to carry guns if they completed a federal-safety program. No longer would unarmed pilots be defenseless as remorseless hijackers seized control of aircraft and rammed them into buildings.

Now President Obama is quietly ending the federal firearms program, risking public safety on airlines in the name of an anti-gun ideology.

The Obama administration this past week diverted some $2 million from the pilot training program to hire more supervisory staff, who will engage in field inspections of pilots.

This looks like completely unnecessary harassment of the pilots. The 12,000 Federal Flight Deck Officers, the pilots who have been approved to carry guns, are reported to have the best behavior of any federal law enforcement agency. There are no cases where any of them has improperly brandished or used a gun. There are just a few cases where officers have improperly used their IDs.

Fewer than one percent of the officers have any administrative actions brought against them and, we are told, virtually all of those cases “are trumped up.”

Take a case against one flight officer who had visited the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles within the last few weeks. While there, the pilot noticed that federal law enforcement officers can, with the approval of a superior, obtain a license plate that cannot be traced, a key safety feature for law enforcement personnel. So the pilot asked if, as a member of the federal program, he was eligible. The DMV staffer checked and said “no.” The next day administrative actions were brought against the pilot for “misrepresenting himself.” These are the kinds of cases that President Obama wants to investigate.

Since Mr. Obama’s election, pilots have told us that the approval process for letting pilots carry guns on planes slowed significantly. Last week the problem went from bad to worse. Federal Flight Deck Officers – the pilots who have been approved to carry guns – indicate that the approval process has stalled out.

Pilots cannot openly speak about the changing policies for fear of retaliation from the Transportation Security Administration. Pilots who act in any way that causes a “loss of confidence” in the armed pilot program risk criminal prosecution as well as their removal from the program. Despite these threats, pilots in the Federal Flight Deck Officers program have raised real concerns in multiple interviews.

Arming pilots after Sept. 11 was nothing new. Until the early 1960s, American commercial passenger pilots on any flight carrying U.S. mail were required to carry handguns. Indeed, U.S. pilots were still allowed to carry guns until as recently as 1987. There are no records that any of these pilots (either military or commercial) ever causing any significant problems.

Screening of airplane passengers is hardly perfect. While armed marshals are helpful, the program covers less than 3 percent of the flights out of Washington D.C.’s three airports and even fewer across the country. Sky marshals are costly and quit more often than other law-enforcement officers.

Armed pilots are a cost-effective backup layer of security. Terrorists can only enter the cockpit through one narrow entrance, and armed pilots have some time to prepare themselves as hijackers penetrate the strengthened cockpit doors. With pilots, we have people who are willing to take on the burden of protecting the planes for free. About 70 percent of the pilots at major American carriers have military backgrounds.

Frankly, as a matter of pure politics, we cannot understand what the administration is thinking. Nearly 40 House Democrats are in districts were the NRA is more popular than House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. We can’t find any independent poll in which the public is demanding that pilots disarm. Why does this move make sense?

Only anti-gun extremists and terrorist recruits are worried about armed pilots. So why is the Obama administration catering to this tiny lobby at the expense of public safety?


  • 31Mike

    The last thing i’ll do is give Nobama a pass on any issue that involves firearms, but i don’t see anything in this article that specifically says he is going to disarm commercial pilots.

    A buddy sent me this same article from the Wash.Times, and it appears that it’s the only one floating around on the internet that all the blogs are linking to.

    WTF these field inspections are about, i don’t know, but maybe we should wait a few days to see if more info comes out that confirms the Messiah is really taking their guns away.

    • ArchInfidel

      Mike, he is working in steps, the first step here is to deny anyone new into the program. check. The next is to persecute those who passed the program. check. The next will be to make the punishments so severe no one will dare think about carrying a gun.

      This bastard is very tricky. He will NEVER EVER come out and say what he is doing. He will NEVER issue a EO that bans pilots from carrying firearms, instead the liar in chief will cut their legs out all the while shouting the populist message.

      NEVER FORGET WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH HERE!

  • RustyB

    Well if like what Obama is doing to the Pilots, you are going to love this!

    Feds undercut civilian supply of ammunition

    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=92095

    Posted: March 17, 2009
    9:00 pm Eastern

    By Drew Zahn
    © 2009 WorldNetDaily
    Fired brass shell casings

    A recent government policy change has taken a bite out of the nation’s already stressed ammunition supply, leaving arms dealers scrambling to find ammo for private gun owners.

    “It is an end-run around Congress. They don’t need to try to ban guns – they don’t need to fight a massive battle to attempt gun registration, or limit ‘assault’ weapon sales,” writes firearm instructor and author Gordon Hutchinson on his The Shootist blog. “Nope. All they have to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless.” Read the rest at above link and weep!!

  • David

    They shouldn’t have had guns anyways. Give ‘em a taser and some pepper spray. The last thing I want is John Travolta getting all nervous and shooting me instead of habib. a gun has no business in such a confined place like a crowded place used by some jackoff with 20 hours training.

    • Hardball1911(Revolutionary Constitutionalist)

      David, you obviously have never been through FLETC or any of the other training facilities where the pilots were trained. John Travolta wouldn’t stand a chance comparatively.

      Pilots aren’t the average citizens. Most could stay cool if the house around them were on fire. I say most, because there are a few who would certainly crack, but the percentage per capita of pilots would be much lower than regular Joes out there. Their training keeps them in the cockpit, in defensive mode. As long as you didn’t approach the cockpit, you would be caused to leak.

      Obama wants another attack, and he wants it now. It will distract from his agenda and allow him to push it through faster than he pushed his other bullshit legislation through after being the harbinger of fear.

  • http://patdollard.com Joe Average

    The pilots with guns are well trained, most ex-military, but proably have more training than a lot of the CCW folks.

    I wouldn’t want stupid clown in airplanes with guns……just look at some of the dregs that have been hired lately to be the Federal Air Marshal.

    Having good pilots armed is a way of having at one person on the plane to stop terrorists.

  • http://www.thebandofmothers.com Beverly Perlson

    Hardball, you are so right. THis will enable the final takeover of Obama’s Jihadi brothers. Daivd, if our pilots had guns on 9/11, we may still have those 3,000 precious Americans. I’ll accept the risk of a nervous pilot over the suicidal jihadis any day fo the week. Wake Up or get out of our way.

  • Tom in CO

    Right, who can forget all those plane attacks that happened from 2002-2009?

    Wait…