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		<title>By: PatriotofPast(Thomas)</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/04/ex-cia-chief-blasts-obama-for-trying-to-get-us-all-killed/#comment-437670</link>
		<dc:creator>PatriotofPast(Thomas)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vince, the one thing I have noticed since comming to Pats site is this... The people who come here understand it is the Constitution that makes this Country Great, and these same people KNOW that without it, America is Dead. I&#039;m here because I care, about my children, the Constitution and all the people who believe in it. Dont lose Faith, God is on OUR Side.  :beer:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vince, the one thing I have noticed since comming to Pats site is this&#8230; The people who come here understand it is the Constitution that makes this Country Great, and these same people KNOW that without it, America is Dead. I&#8217;m here because I care, about my children, the Constitution and all the people who believe in it. Dont lose Faith, God is on OUR Side.  :beer:</p>
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		<title>By: nomee1</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/04/ex-cia-chief-blasts-obama-for-trying-to-get-us-all-killed/#comment-437632</link>
		<dc:creator>nomee1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there is just one problem, that you speak, its all about the self haters, and there are no self haters here.  WE do not have much in common with those folks and they seem to be librials.  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is just one problem, that you speak, its all about the self haters, and there are no self haters here.  WE do not have much in common with those folks and they seem to be librials.  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: vincenzo4</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/04/ex-cia-chief-blasts-obama-for-trying-to-get-us-all-killed/#comment-437582</link>
		<dc:creator>vincenzo4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KtD:  This all has become buizzarre entertainment with a slant of dignified speaking truth to power, a demented and sick false concern about oversight of government operations in a free society.  What we are now is basically on auto-pilot for the ememy.  We out ourselves, have an imposed sense of self-guilt and psychologically believe what the media has programmed within us.  We do not care about what has happened to our countrymen, or what the future treachery poses for a very inept and military advwerse administration.

There is not will to fight, and it it titilating, amost a high school clique thing a badge of courage to protest government action and scrutinize every step the government takes and the military employs to protect this country.

Suicide amongst soldiers is huge.  Does anyone know this?  Does the media give a shit?  Don&#039;t dare make a connection between the successful psychological games the left has played, how Bush and Rumsfeld have been demeaned or how the refusal to fight this war rages here at home.  Then they threaten medical care, disclose deeply egregiously damaging classified information in the interest of transparency.

We have become the enemy.  We are doing the enemy&#039;s work for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KtD:  This all has become buizzarre entertainment with a slant of dignified speaking truth to power, a demented and sick false concern about oversight of government operations in a free society.  What we are now is basically on auto-pilot for the ememy.  We out ourselves, have an imposed sense of self-guilt and psychologically believe what the media has programmed within us.  We do not care about what has happened to our countrymen, or what the future treachery poses for a very inept and military advwerse administration.</p>
<p>There is not will to fight, and it it titilating, amost a high school clique thing a badge of courage to protest government action and scrutinize every step the government takes and the military employs to protect this country.</p>
<p>Suicide amongst soldiers is huge.  Does anyone know this?  Does the media give a shit?  Don&#8217;t dare make a connection between the successful psychological games the left has played, how Bush and Rumsfeld have been demeaned or how the refusal to fight this war rages here at home.  Then they threaten medical care, disclose deeply egregiously damaging classified information in the interest of transparency.</p>
<p>We have become the enemy.  We are doing the enemy&#8217;s work for them.</p>
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		<title>By: American Woman</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/04/ex-cia-chief-blasts-obama-for-trying-to-get-us-all-killed/#comment-437441</link>
		<dc:creator>American Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindsey Gramnesty is such a pussy, just like the rest of the libutards. This country needs an extra strength vinager and bleach douche.

if waterboarding is torture what the fuck is beheadings :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsey Gramnesty is such a pussy, just like the rest of the libutards. This country needs an extra strength vinager and bleach douche.</p>
<p>if waterboarding is torture what the fuck is beheadings <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Demogorgon</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/04/ex-cia-chief-blasts-obama-for-trying-to-get-us-all-killed/#comment-437353</link>
		<dc:creator>Demogorgon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:arrow: Kt D

I didn&#039;t bother to even look at this video... and now I will tell you why.

This is not a &quot;multi-faceted issue&quot; - WE ARE AT WAR, a nation at war must have secrets that it keeps from everyone! Congress has not voted to rescind either of the AUMF resolutions so we are, in fact, still at war. The prior &#039;leaks&#039; to the press about this and other secret &#039;things&#039; by government officials - undoubtedly with security clearances - were criminal acts of high-treason!

Screw this [censored] &quot;transparency&quot; shit... it doesn&#039;t apply here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif' alt=':arrow:' class='wp-smiley' />  Kt D</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t bother to even look at this video&#8230; and now I will tell you why.</p>
<p>This is not a &#8220;multi-faceted issue&#8221; &#8211; WE ARE AT WAR, a nation at war must have secrets that it keeps from everyone! Congress has not voted to rescind either of the AUMF resolutions so we are, in fact, still at war. The prior &#8216;leaks&#8217; to the press about this and other secret &#8216;things&#8217; by government officials &#8211; undoubtedly with security clearances &#8211; were criminal acts of high-treason!</p>
<p>Screw this [censored] &#8220;transparency&#8221; shit&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t apply here!</p>
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		<title>By: usmctanks</title>
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		<dc:creator>usmctanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhhhhhhh...traitors swingin from the gallows...the Flag blowin in the breeze and eatin c-rats on the whitehouse lawn....makes an old jarhead kinda misty...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhhhhhhh&#8230;traitors swingin from the gallows&#8230;the Flag blowin in the breeze and eatin c-rats on the whitehouse lawn&#8230;.makes an old jarhead kinda misty&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don't bitch about the heat</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/04/ex-cia-chief-blasts-obama-for-trying-to-get-us-all-killed/#comment-437327</link>
		<dc:creator>Don't bitch about the heat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the same thing that was done to Bush by the MSM for 8 years, now the insiders can do the dirty deed. With so many traitors of this country to hang when the party starts, I hope I&#039;ll be there to piss on them. I want to be in the 1st column that rights this ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same thing that was done to Bush by the MSM for 8 years, now the insiders can do the dirty deed. With so many traitors of this country to hang when the party starts, I hope I&#8217;ll be there to piss on them. I want to be in the 1st column that rights this ship.</p>
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		<title>By: Kt D</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/04/ex-cia-chief-blasts-obama-for-trying-to-get-us-all-killed/#comment-437309</link>
		<dc:creator>Kt D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is more than a valid concern--ultimately, the danger that could stem from releasing these memos.  Americans are right to be concerned over the country&#039;s security and welfare, but I also wonder if there should not be some amount of transparency between the government and the people as well.  This is a multi-faceted issue with numerous questions, details and exceptions.  I watched an interesting video on all of this earlier today at newsy.com.  It asks questions about torture/terrorism policies in this country, citing a few different opinions.  Take a look:

http://www.newsy.com/videos/making_sense_of_the_memos/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is more than a valid concern&#8211;ultimately, the danger that could stem from releasing these memos.  Americans are right to be concerned over the country&#8217;s security and welfare, but I also wonder if there should not be some amount of transparency between the government and the people as well.  This is a multi-faceted issue with numerous questions, details and exceptions.  I watched an interesting video on all of this earlier today at newsy.com.  It asks questions about torture/terrorism policies in this country, citing a few different opinions.  Take a look:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsy.com/videos/making_sense_of_the_memos/" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsy.com/videos/making_sense_of_the_memos/</a></p>
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		<title>By: vincenzo4</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/04/ex-cia-chief-blasts-obama-for-trying-to-get-us-all-killed/#comment-437235</link>
		<dc:creator>vincenzo4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the Hayden interview once on television and twice on You Tube.  What General Hayden said is absolutely correct.  Over lunch I watched that Ding Dong Press Secretary try to justify this release, which further makes the release highly suspect in its intent.

These people knew exactly what they were doing and the damage that would result in its release, therefore am confident the element of criminal intent is indeed present, with a FOIA request being used as cover inasmuch as the limp &quot;transparency&quot; excuse.

My opinion when this happened was that the release of this information is indeed espionage if you read 18 USC 793, and it has caused exceptionally grave damage to national security.

Very plainly, and legal sufficient is an article Laws and Leaks of Classified Intelligence The Consequences of Permissive Neglect James B. Bruce a CIA publication located at url  https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/docs/v47i1a04p.htm  Here is a quick quote from there: &quot;...Classified intelligence disclosed in the press is the effective equivalent of intelligence gathered through foreign espionage.  Importantly, more than just Russian intelligence officers understand this.  Key adversaries of the United States, such as China and al-Qaida, derive a significant amount of their information on the United States and US intelligence from the media, including the Internet.  What we need to understand are the legal implications of this key principle...&quot;

The very disclosure and then corroboration of the existence of the Waterboarding program is constructive espionage which has also caused exceptionally grave damage to national security.

Lastly, I often wonder what Wild Bill Donovan would do today especially after this war we fought was danced with all during Clinton. I am confident these memos would never have been released and waterboarding would have been conducted to this day.  Here is a quote from General Donovan and it makes me wonder why these people are in my government in the first place:  &quot;Espionage is not a nice thing, nor are the methods employed exemplary. Neither are demolition bombs nor poison gas.... We face an enemy who believes one of his chief weapons is that none but he will employ terror. But we will turn terror against him....&quot;

Dios Y Patria
Vince</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the Hayden interview once on television and twice on You Tube.  What General Hayden said is absolutely correct.  Over lunch I watched that Ding Dong Press Secretary try to justify this release, which further makes the release highly suspect in its intent.</p>
<p>These people knew exactly what they were doing and the damage that would result in its release, therefore am confident the element of criminal intent is indeed present, with a FOIA request being used as cover inasmuch as the limp &#8220;transparency&#8221; excuse.</p>
<p>My opinion when this happened was that the release of this information is indeed espionage if you read 18 USC 793, and it has caused exceptionally grave damage to national security.</p>
<p>Very plainly, and legal sufficient is an article Laws and Leaks of Classified Intelligence The Consequences of Permissive Neglect James B. Bruce a CIA publication located at url  <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/docs/v47i1a04p.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/docs/v47i1a04p.htm</a>  Here is a quick quote from there: &#8220;&#8230;Classified intelligence disclosed in the press is the effective equivalent of intelligence gathered through foreign espionage.  Importantly, more than just Russian intelligence officers understand this.  Key adversaries of the United States, such as China and al-Qaida, derive a significant amount of their information on the United States and US intelligence from the media, including the Internet.  What we need to understand are the legal implications of this key principle&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The very disclosure and then corroboration of the existence of the Waterboarding program is constructive espionage which has also caused exceptionally grave damage to national security.</p>
<p>Lastly, I often wonder what Wild Bill Donovan would do today especially after this war we fought was danced with all during Clinton. I am confident these memos would never have been released and waterboarding would have been conducted to this day.  Here is a quote from General Donovan and it makes me wonder why these people are in my government in the first place:  &#8220;Espionage is not a nice thing, nor are the methods employed exemplary. Neither are demolition bombs nor poison gas&#8230;. We face an enemy who believes one of his chief weapons is that none but he will employ terror. But we will turn terror against him&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dios Y Patria<br />
Vince</p>
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		<title>By: Lock and Load</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lock and Load</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Obama prohibited the use of so-called â€œenhanced interrogation techniquesâ€ such as waterboarding shortly after taking office in January.
Such techniques â€œundermine our moral authority and do not make us safer,â€ he said Thursday, when the White House released the memos.&quot;

Hey Barry, you ass-wipe, since when does al Qaeda give a crap about your moral authority :?:  :evil:  Your moral authority is not going to give you actionable intel or save your sorry ass from the next big terrorist event that comes along. God help America, and all the rest of us too :!:  :???:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama prohibited the use of so-called â€œenhanced interrogation techniquesâ€ such as waterboarding shortly after taking office in January.<br />
Such techniques â€œundermine our moral authority and do not make us safer,â€ he said Thursday, when the White House released the memos.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey Barry, you ass-wipe, since when does al Qaeda give a crap about your moral authority <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_question.gif' alt=':?:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif' alt=':evil:' class='wp-smiley' />   Your moral authority is not going to give you actionable intel or save your sorry ass from the next big terrorist event that comes along. God help America, and all the rest of us too <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif' alt=':!:' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':???:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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