House Passes $3.4 Trillion Budget Enabling Obama To Establish National Health Care

April 29th, 2009 (39) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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Fox News:

WASHINGTON — Acting with unusual speed, the House on Wednesday adopted a $3.4 trillion budget outline that endorses much of President Barack Obama’s ambitious agenda while permitting the national debt to continue to spiral higher.

While a welcome victory for Democrats, the 233-193 House vote approving the House-Senate compromise budget is only a first, relatively easy step toward Obama’s goal of providing health care coverage for all Americans. Next would come arduous negotiations among lawmakers, the Obama administration and a vast array of interest groups.

Not a single Republican voted for the measure; 17 Democrats, mostly from GOP-leaning districts, voted against it.

The Senate will vote on the measure Wednesday afternoon.

With the economy in recession and the bailout of the financial sector costing hundreds of billions of dollars, deficits would rocket to $1.7 trillion for the ongoing budget year, dipping to a still-astonishing $1.2 trillion in 2010. The national debt would rise from today’s $11.2 trillion level to $17 trillion at the end of 2014.

“The same Democrats who were outraged over a $455 billion deficit last year came to us this year with a budget that would lead to trillion dollar deficits,” said Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

The budget measure is a nonbinding outline for follow-up tax and spending legislation. It is Congress’ response to Obama’s $3.6 trillion budget plan released in late February.

Perhaps most significantly, the budget plan would give Democrats a stronger hand in advancing Obama’s health care initiative this fall by allowing it to go forward without threat of GOP stalling tactics in the Senate. Democrats pledge to first try passing health care legislation with GOP support.

“The budget also allows us … an up-or-down vote on reforming health care — not as an option of first resort, but as a fallback if partisanship blocks progress,” said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md.

But the budget plan skirts difficult decisions on how to pay for Obama’s health care plan, which is expected to cost more than $1 trillion over the next decade. It allows the new president’s signature $400 tax credit for most workers to expire in 20 months — but devotes $512 billion over five years to extend tax cuts passed during President George W. Bush’s first term for middle-class workers, investors and families with children.

And votes in the Senate made it clear that Obama’s initiative to combat global warming by making it more expensive to emit greenhouse gases faces great obstacles.

Democrats say they and Obama inherited a record budget mess and deserve credit for cutting the deficit by two-thirds over the next five years. Most of those deficit savings, however, are expected to come automatically as the economy recovers, tax revenues rebound and the Iraq war winds down.

Republicans say Democrats rely on the usual bag of budget tricks: savings that won’t appear, spending caps that won’t hold, and tax cuts that aren’t “paid for” as promised.

The Democratic plan assumes Congress will devote only $50 billion a year for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan for 2011 and beyond and pass an annual fix for the alternative minimum tax without adding to the deficit over 2013-14.

The Democratic plan embraces several of Obama’s key goals besides a health care overhaul, including funds for domestic programs and clean energy, and a tax increase for individuals making more than $200,000 a year or couples making more than $250,000.

Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said that Wednesday’s news that the economy had shrunk by 6.1 percent in the first quarter highlighted the likelihood that the deficit numbers are even worse than predicted in the budget.

“Put reality into the budget and the deficits and debt go much higher,” Ryan said.

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  • dogbert41

    3 trillion here, 3 trillion there, pretty soon we’re going to be talking about real money.

    Or else we’re going to be talking about walking around with wheelbarrows full of cash to buy bread with.

  • DesignR

    There it is. America R.I.P..
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    We are Canada, we are England, we are South Africa, we are Mexico. Hillary Clinton’s idea and every Communist sympathizer’s deepest wish, writ large on the Leftist canvas, chiseled in marble in Washington D.C., in position and upright.

  • Ripcord

    Again, its obvious that the “gold rush” is in full swing. Liberals and Dems are rushing to pass legislation and cutting deals as quickly as they can because the clock is ticking. Americans are waking up and realizing that our politicians are raiding the coffers with one eye on the upcoming congressional re-elections next year. It’s important that we become pro-ACTIVE in our efforts to make our votes count and remove those politicians who are ruining this country. Steal Obama’s tele-prompter (effectively silencing him) and vote the Pelosi’s and Frank’s and Specter’s out of Washington and let us get this country back on track! Believe me, they know their report card is due next year and we will begin to see some serious political shuffling going on to appease the voting public and try to slide past another ousting.

    The typical biased media is giving more attention to news like the Swine Flu (It’s a FLU! get over it!!) and no attention on articles like this.

    As for me, my GO pack not only includes beans and bullets but my voter’s registration card too!!!

    • DesignR

      Amen brother.

    • aboutTObegin

      roger that…but good luck verifying the votes are accurate and truly reflect what the populace is voting! all the msm is going to do is report false numbers and guess who will be re-elected???

      -aTb

  • DesignR

    Obama has greased skids all the way to his desk with this one. No matter how loud the howls from us, this is going all the way. It’s over. Grab your ankles.

  • WarBicycle
    • American Woman

      Done!
      F at 38%
      A at 32%
      interesting coming from MSNBC/

  • Steady

    The stupidity of the American voters is about to bit them in the butt HARD!!! Why anyone with even and ounce of common sense would ever vote for a Democrat is beyond me. Putting the looming financial disaster aside, it is the Democrats who openly root for the defeat of the American military. Come on people, WAKE the F*CK up!!!!!

    • tlk

      They are delusional. They think that ‘someone else’ is paying for it all and truly believe that they DESERVE things for free. I’ve met them face to face..they have no shame whatsoever when it comes to taking from others…they honestly see themselves as being so wonderful that everyone should want to give to them.

    • aboutTObegin

      don’t tell us to wake up, go out there and voice it to those that are not supportive of America! the time to do it is NOW. I am with you…recruiting all over here, as many as I can for ACCDF (ACTIVE)!!!!!!

      -aTb

  • pub

    I’m in favor of some kind of nationalized healthcare, the same way I’m in favor of police and firefighters. Millions dying from lack of preventative healthcare in the superpower is reprehensible and has been ignored for years.

    • tlk

      It is going to cause everyone’s health care to be sub standard and at the same time it will bankrupt our country and have a negative impact on the quality of future physicians. Is all that worth it to you???

      This WILL NOT increase the standard of living in this country.

    • pub

      Is it worth it to you that some people die from lack of preventative healthcare and no one cares, but you live because you have health care?

    • tlk

      You’re on the wrong website. Conservatives believe in self reliance and generally don’t get along with those that mooch off of society. GET A LIFE!

    • Dan (San Diego)

      pub

      No it does not bother me………
      What bothers me is people doing nothing and expecting everything in return.

      I busted my ass and gave up alot to get my job and healthcare….

      I’ve seen gov’t controlled health care……it does not work…..

      Maybe the people without health care should get a fucking job.

    • tlk

      What’s this waist of good oxygen doing on here.

    • BT

      Millions dieing? I would love to know where you are getting you facts. Probably from the same source that says 45 million Americans are uninsured. Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. I have yet to know of anyone being refused health care when walking into any emergency room.

    • pub

      tlk: Well, thanks for kicking me off. Pretty totaltarian, but you get your wish.

    • tlk

      I mean waste not waist :mrgreen:

    • tlk

      Get lost!!!

    • tlk

      I don’t interact with the enemy. Those days are long gone.

    • BT

      I’m alive by the grace of God, and nationalized health care means only the politicians get decant health care because they are exempt from the same system that you and I would be forced to participate in.

    • American Woman

      I love this logic….
      unicorns and rainbows :roll:
      the worlds super power the people should have it all….
      well if all our money goes to wiping the asses of the people how can we fund keeping the country the world superpower? but liberals insist there is enough money to go around. If thats the case then why is maedicare and social security bankrupt? politicians cookie jar. Obongo said that 400 million of the spending bill will be lost to fraud!! insted of living up to promises to end fraud he worked it into the budget!!

      With nationalized healthcare it becomes RATIONALIZED healthcare. Europe goes through peoples fridge to see what their eating
      Japan measures peoples waiste and if you are too big you are not covered.
      Do you really think you will be treated if you smoke? what if you eat too much sugar and get diabetes, self inflicted diseases not covered.

      Wake up and get a fucking clue moron!!
      A person should be in charge of themselves not a federal asshole who gives too shits about me and sees me as a liability and not a person,mother,daughter,sister,friend. someone who gives back to my community.
      fuck this!!

    • dacoelec

      Particle of Unidentified Barf, (pub)

      Go to straight to hell you piece of excrement. And take your liberal ideas with you.

    • Hardball1911

      Provide one basic reference to where all of these “millions” are that are dying from a lack of preventative health care. That is an arbitrary number (more of an arbitrary NONSPECIFIC number) used by Hillary Clinton in an effort to shove her agenda.

      Just like Pelosi stating that 500 million people lose their job every week…

      I call bullshit until you can place ONE definitive study in my reach.

    • Hardball1911

      One more quickie for ya Pub. If you are kicked off of here, it isn’t because someone else did it for you.

      See, we truly believe in sharing of opinions here. We don’t shout down others. We provide the respect due by allowing the opinions to be expressed.

      The thing is, your freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence. When you voice an opinion that is counter to others’ opinions, it is likely to be met with responses that are designed to show exactly that.

      Nationalized health care would doom our country’s system of health. I challenge you further to produce me ONE program that the federal government has ever undertaken that was successful. Don’t say Social Security, don’t say Medicaid… you get the point.

    • mshatto

      Question – What’s going to prevent someone from not getting preventative medicine?

      Answer – government bureaucrats. The same government bureaucrats who will eventually decide that older people can not get certain procedures done.

      Mindless sheep like you are the greatest danger to our freedoms. Remember the road to hell is paved with good intentions and unfortunately, people like you are too insipid to understand a statement like that.

    • American Woman

      There are independant insurance companies that provide insurance to people whose company does not or is too expensive. Its affordable BUT the problem is people dont want to have to pay for it, BUT they will spend tons of money on $4lattes, designer clothes, car payment for a new car and eat lunch out everyday.
      People now cant tell the difference between a “want” and a “need” Drive a older car, brown bag, buy clothes on sale or clearence off season, make your own fucking coffee and pour it in a thermos BUT dont change our countrys heathcare system thats the best in the world because your too selfish and lazy to take matters in your own hands!!

      If people are not getting preventative care it is because they are not putting their health as a priority. A the few that are too poor are such a minority it is insanity to change the whole working system for the small percent. If there are no jobs in your small town. FUCKING MOVE!

  • http://twitter.com/RTHTGakaRoland Roland

    Obama critically ill! Hospitalized! Terminal! POTUS has “Pork Flu”: http://is.gd/vpYZ :twisted:

    Well maybe the troika will lose its apex. :lol:

    • Dan (San Diego)

      quit teasing……

    • marsha

      WE CAN ONLY WISH FOR THAT but we all know mussie’s don’t or can’t eat pork.

  • Moultrie

    Wow tlk & dacoelec, good work on the little troll, PUB. I agree, the time for talking with the statist looters is long past.

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  • jasjfarrell

    Someone has to pay for doctors, medical procedures and medicines.

    It’s going to be paid for by an insurance company that you pay premiums to or by government that collects the money in the form of taxes.

    Government involvement leads to nothing but waste, corruption and incompetence. Change you can believe in.

  • Ripcord

    I work, I prosper, I provide..I don’t need, nor do I want government intervention in my health care. If my current health care is insufficient, I will change jobs, or work harder or find another health care provider. (capitalism at it’s best, not socialism). If you are sick, life sustaining health care will not be refused to you. After that, get a job, buy some insurance and please, PLEASE quit mooching off my paycheck. I doubt very seriously that PUB has ever experienced a national health care system or third world medicine. PUB’s comments seem to stem from ideology ignorance and not experience, and while this forum is both diverse and eclectic, PUB just got run over by the “I’m Mad As Hell And I’m Not Going To Take It Anymore” train. Don’t worry brother….I hear Canada has “free” bandages….

    • DesignR

      :arrow: Ripcord
      “I hear Canada has “free” bandages….”
      Go Ripcord!

      Pub, get a job asshat and buy your own shit. Also, don’t walk into a Cop’s bar with a gun and try and rob the place, or into a Hell’s Angel’s bar and yell “Vago’s Rule!”. You are bound to be ejected in a way you don’t like, injured or dead. Just sayin’.

  • Bobachek

    There’s a reason why people with money come here from foreign countries with nationalized healthcare….
    They want top notch health care and they know that theirs sucks…
    It’s really not hard to figure out why Canucks hop the border to get MRI’s in the states…

    • DesignR

      We are surrounded by Canadian snow birds in our area, dropping in for health-care they can’t get back home and to retire. Some come to protect their assets from taxes. They might want to rethink the last reason.