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Obama Seeks Power To Set Stock Prices



Apr 18, 2009 40 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

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That, my friends, is the only effective “regulation” for bubbles. Let’s see how long he keeps mum about his specific plan before he tips his hand.

And I wonder who the Minister of Defining Bubbles will be, and by what calculus those bubbles shall be so defined?

Politico:

As he battles the economic downturn, President Barack Obama is bracing Americans for a recovery different than any in recent memory – not a go-go return to prosperity like the 1990s but a slow, steady climb to stability.

“We know that an economy built on reckless speculation, inflated home prices and maxed-out credit cards does not create lasting wealth. It creates the illusion of prosperity, and it’s endangered us all,” Obama said recently.

But what Obama rarely says about ending the “cycle of bubble and bust” is this: He’s prepared to intervene to make sure that kind of red-hot growth doesn’t occur.

And he’s willing to do it with added government regulation if needed to prevent any one sector of the economy from getting out of balance – the way the dot-com boom did in the 1990s and the real-estate market did earlier this decade.

According to Austan Goolsbee, a key Obama economic adviser, the president plans to focus on stopping bubbles along with preventing busts. And in an interview with POLITICO, Goolsbee said the administration will be on the lookout for new bubbles, like the tech stocks or housing prices.

If new threats are spotted, he said Obama would use “regulatory oversight to prevent guys who want to make a quick buck from doing real harm to the economy. … That is what it means to get out of the bubble-and-bust cycle.”

It’s a controversial and largely untested idea – one that involves government intervention in the economy to a degree that recent presidents have been unwilling or unable to impose. There would be great political risks for Obama, particularly after the depths of this painful recession, and it would open him up to criticism that he is trying to squelch the free market.

Obama has mainstream support for his position, including from Mark Zandi, an oft-quoted economist at Moody’s Economy.com who advised John McCain during the 2008 campaign. But Zandi said there’s not much an administration can do in practical terms to burst a developing bubble. The best way to cool things down is raising interest rates, which is the purview of the Federal Reserve. Another option would be for regulators to order banks to curtail lending to buyers of certain kinds of assets.

Also, in any bubble, there are plenty of people thrilled to be the beneficiaries – tech stock owners in the 1990s, or homeowners in the 2000s. Those people would form a powerful political opposition to any effort to put the brakes on growth. That would make it extremely difficult for government officials to take action.

“It’s just human nature to let the good times roll,” said former House Financial Services Committee Chairman Mike Oxley, a Republican. “And politicians are human like everybody else. You don’t want to be in a position of throwing a wet blanket on this stuff.”

He said that’s one of the reasons why the Bush administration didn’t intervene in the housing bubble. “Nobody wanted to mess up the party,” said Oxley. “They were hoping against hope that it would naturally slow down. Not too many people are courageous enough to make that call.”

Another skeptic is Charles Blahous, former deputy director of the National Economic Council under President Bush. “If they are talking about the government affirmatively acting to slow growth in good times, that would be very troublesome,” said Blahous, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute. One difficulty in stopping bubbles, Blahous points out, is that they aren’t evenly distributed across the country – the impact of the housing bubble varied widely from city to city, for example.

But the Obama team is optimistic that the politics and the economics would work out. Goolsbee argues the public would react differently today than it may have in years past if government stepped in to stop a bubble. “Given the events that have happened, people are in tune,” Goolsbee said. “They are now painfully aware that it’s not sustainable to build your recoveries on bubbles.”

Added Zandi: “Policymakers always intervene in a downturn. So it is necessary for policy makers to take action against bubbles. You’ve got to be symmetrical in your policy.”

Zandi believes the best way for the administration to block new bubbles is to create a new “systemic regulator” to watch out for threats to the overall economy. “There’s an old saying in banking that if its growing like a weed, it probably is a weed. If something’s growing at 40 to 50 percent a year, you want to stop and see what’s driving that. That would be the systemic regulator’s job,” he said.

Right now, the debate is largely hypothetical. There’s certainly no threat of an asset price bubble in the short term. But the economic history of the past several decades is one of recessions followed by the growth in asset price bubbles: the recession of the early 1990s was followed by the tech bubble, and the recession of the early 2000s was followed by an overheated housing market. And while economic growth of any kind would be a cause for celebration now, another bubble could follow this recession, too.

That’s why the Obama administration is taking steps it argues will ensure that the economic recovery is based on an increase in real value, not on a new bubble. They are emphasizing clean energy, health care, education and worker training – all areas they call part of the “real economy.”

Much of Obama’s public rhetoric has been aimed at reminding Americans not to create another unsustainable run-up in prices. On April 14, he told an audience at Georgetown University that the recovery should be built “upon a rock,” rather than on a foundation of sand.

But stopping bubbles isn’t as easy as it might seem.

For one thing, it’s nearly impossible to tell whether a market increase is a bubble or not from the inside. During both the tech stock and housing bubbles, there were influential national figures arguing that the price run-up was based on real value, not imaginary gains. Simply deciding when to call a market increase a bubble would be fraught with controversy.

Free-market-oriented economists argue that the government has no business picking winners and losers in the economy. After all, stopping a bubble at any point unavoidably hurts certain investors.

“One man’s expansion is another man’s bubble,” said Dan Mitchell, a senior fellow at the libertarian CATO Institute. “I have a lot of doubts about the administration’s ability and willingness to solve booms and busts,” he said. “And I’m worried that it reflects an ideological hubris that the economy can be planned.”


  • http://holgerawakens.blogspot.com Holger Awakens

    Excuse me? But isn’t this the guy that has his own personal finances so fucked up that the only way he could buy a house in Chicago was to have a racketeer buy it for him? And he’s a Wall Street guru now? What the hell is the reaction going to be of the American people when it’s revealed that he is purposely SLOWING down the recovery from the crisis that HIS PARTY caused?

  • Scoot

    “What the hell is the reaction going to be of the American people when it’s revealed that he is purposely SLOWING down the recovery from the crisis that HIS PARTY caused?”

    He’ll come up with a cute, marketable catch phrase, then show the people the new doggy they got to shit on the White House lawn.

  • Scoot

    We are witnessing the death of what we call our United States.

    Obama is making everyone in this country slaves to his machine.

    We just have to throw a few pieces of metal into the gears of this machine to seize it up.

  • Chuck O

    Who ever it is won’t be the Minister of defining bubbles but possibly another Czar. The whole plan of his and the other leftists is to get people upset and have them choose socialism over capitalism. They won’t stop until the govt controls every aspect of our lives. What city you can live in. Whether or not you can have a car or must take public transportation. And if you do get a car, it will be one of those new Segways. They’ll be dictating if you can even have surgery done when they get their universal healthcare passed.Those that are too old will be considered useless to them so they will be left to die. We already know life means nothing to them, look at how they view partial birth abortions.

  • SunDevilDog

    Right on.

  • Phil Byler

    Is there anybody who questions that Obama is a socialist? If Obama is going to seek the kind of authority described in the Politico article, then Obama is not just a European socialist, but a true brother of commie Chavez.

    Am I wrong?

  • American Woman

    yeah and not to mention him becoming a MILLIONAIRE under free market CAPITALISM along with millions of other people. more people became millionaires under Bush than ever. That says a lot when a piece of shit like obongo can rake in that kind of dough and not work for it.

  • exiled

    Everday this Commie/Socialist punk is seizing another piece of our freedom. The banks, privately owned companies etc. This must stop!

  • RC

    “.. regulatory oversight to prevent guys who want to make a quick buck from doing real harm to the economy.”

    I guess that rules out Soros, Dodd, Raines, Johnson, ACORN et al?

    He’s on a roll traveling the world being patted on the back by commies and tyrants, reciprocating with a bow or a handshake and a smile. It’s a lovefest like no other where common anti-west hatred bring together the main antagonists.

    If O isn’t overwhelmingly removed in the next election, say bye bye to all enterprise, international prestige and American exceptionalism – forever.

  • American Woman

    I have no doubt he is a socialist, that is so last year. I am becoming concerned about this being a full communist takeover.
    He might have started out a socialist but as we know power corupts, he will push to get as much as he can get away with. We know he hates this country and we know he plays dirty. :evil:

    Its the libutards who create these bubbles. they live in such a fantacy world

  • American Woman

    2010 can really slow him down. Thats what happened to Clinton and he knows it. They are working overtime to pass as much stuff now and to work to fix the elections.
    fucker!!!!! has to be stopped.

  • GRIZZ

    Your vote will not count in the next election or any other to come.WE must get this pos out of office.Feet first

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  • prestonbrooks

    :lol: Hahahahaha! What makes you guys think there will be anymore elections? Democracy has left the building. Once Hitler was appointed chancellor, he decreed the Enabing Act, which eliminated all opposition (using the arson of the Reichstag as a reason). Obama will pull the same act. Why? He read Hitler’s book. Forget 2012. We will all be lucky if we are still living in 12 months…

  • prestonbrooks

    :twisted: And, since he will have locked up all our vets since they are “terrorists,” the only army you will see will be Venezuelan, Cuban, and a half-million muslims. Think they will have any problem with mass murder? Stalin so over-purged his army he barely fended off the Werhmacht. Hussein won’t have that problem.

  • fred

    I’m not too worked up about this, because we are not going to see a raging bull market in any asset class during Obonga’s four-year-and-out term. The tax increases, massive deficit spending, and upcoming cap and trade beat down of energy all are millstones around the economy’s neck.

    These people are delusional if they think we are going to see any asset bubbles occurring during the next four years. This is only red meat being tossed to the most ignorant of sheeple. It is another attempt to deflect blame for the market meltdown and extension of the recession. It is just another plea for the sheeple in the Middle Muddle to be impressed with how allegedly smart Obonga and his czars are.

    They flatter themselves. And so do the people who voted for them flatter themselves with their supposedly superior judgment.

  • Sully

    “ideologic hubris”?
    From a Dhimmicrat?
    Nah… say it ain’t so.

    While Barry would very much like America to believe we need a “systemic regulator” to protect us, we don’t.
    It’s another of his now daily attempts to unring the Liberty Bell.

  • http://cclevel.vox.com cclezel

    Bubbles created by the Government now going to be prevented by the government. This ought to be real interesting.

  • http://www.Dissent-From-Day-One.com DissentFromDayOneDOTcom

    Can we say, “get your fuckin’ money out of the stock market?”

    YES WE CAN!

  • Scoot

    I’m thinking he’s going for the Dictator title.

  • Scoot

    Get it out before obozo does it for you!

  • solomonpal

    Be that the case then I’m gonna have some fun…

  • solomonpal

    That’s more like it.

  • Medaton

    Two links that you should check…

    The first is Pat’s show with Jeff Epstein and the second is a Steel on Steel that tells us exactly where we are headed and why.

    Pat’s show plays on the site. The Steel on Steel show must be downloaded. This is a very important show that we all need to hear.

    Pat’s show…
    http://britanniaradio.blogspot.com/2009/04/give-this-listen.html#links

    Steel on Steel…
    To download… (right click to listen and save target as) on Click To Listen

    http://britanniaradio.blogspot.com/2009/04/systems-theory-systems-theory-is.html#links

  • grumpy mechanic

    I’d like to throw a few pieces of metal between the ears of the machinist. :twisted:

  • j.b.
  • Mike Mose

    Obama, Reid and Pelosi are NOT socialist, they are hard core communist Marxists. This takeover of the USA is not a socialist plan.

    We went past socialism with Bush.

  • Mike Mose

    Obama’s plan is to give investors confidence to reenter the market with all their money by the 2010 election and then right before or after, the market crashes and Marshall law is imposed. The rest of the 401k’s and pensions are lost.

  • bill-tb

    Anything but cut taxes. A charismatic teleprompter reading dunce. Spent a little too much seat time in the get whitey rev Wright’s church.

  • beddgelert

    Good analysis Fred. It is so true, this president has been in OJT for the past twenty years, never keeping a job longer than three. It is obvious that time is Obama’s greatest enemy because he spends very little time understanding anything, he shoots from the hip while dancing from country to country, city to city and from town to town. His administration has spent an enormous amount of money with absolutely zero return. Eventually these events which the media white washes daily will become fodder. Without the center (independents) no Democrat can win office. I expect that the 2010 election will change everything as average people will by that time realise just how bad Obama is as an executive.

    Experience of all kinds make a man or woman, the less you have the worst you’ll do. I will never forget the interview with Tavis Smalley (sp?) on morning joe, he said quote “its up to us (media) to make Obama a great president, he can’t do it by himself”. This is true, and even the most liberal know it. Its a game to them and the reality of sheparding a nation takes a back seat to personal agendas.

  • Jay Turner

    Word History : It is fitting that the name of an authoritarian political movement like Fascism, founded in 1919 by Benito Mussolini, should come from the name of a symbol of authority. The Italian name of the movement, fascismo, is derived from fascio, “bundle, (political) group,” but also refers to the movement’s emblem, the fasces, a bundle of rods bound around a projecting axe-head that was carried before an ancient Roman magistrate by an attendant as a symbol of authority and power. The name of Mussolini’s group of revolutionaries was soon used for similar nationalistic movements in other countries that sought to gain power through violence and ruthlessness, such as National Socialism”

    Source Dictionary.com

  • http://patdollard.com Joe Average

    Saw about Obama’s big ‘bullet train’ idea. Here is a flip side to that wonderful progress.

    There are several communities in the country trying to stop all road spending and make new commuter rail lines. BART (SF Bay area), DART (Dallas), MARTA (Atlanta), Metro (DC area) are just a few of the city metropolitan rail & subway type systems in the country that may be exanding soon.

    Think about this…..
    The more expansive the rail systems become (even a new bullet-train), the less and less car and plane travel will be allowed. Your freedom to travel, visit, and get to other places in the country CAN BE RESTRICTED by Obama.

    Then travel, without ‘travel papers’, can be stopped by the Government…just like Soviet Union.

  • Wigpeeler

    While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher, whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our President.

    The old rancher said, ‘Well, ya know, Obama is a ‘post turtle’.’

    Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a ‘post turtle’ was. The old rancher said, ‘When you’re driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that’s a ‘post turtle’.’

    The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor’s face, so he continued to explain. ‘You know he didn’t get up there by himself, he doesn’t belong up there, he doesn’t know what to do while he is up there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there to begin with.’

  • JJIrons

    This guy is a dictator-madman. Is he even an American? WHO voted for this steaming shit pile?

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b4_1235260822

  • http://n/a rightside

    Wigpeeler, That was so great I have to pass it along. :lol: :beer:

  • Matt in GA

    One word: FASCIST

    I was talking to my great uncle today, who happened Hitler Youth in the 30′s, and fought in WW2 for the Germans. When he described life in Germany in the mid 30′s, he described exactly what is happening now in America. Exactly. I will not repeat what he suggested the American people do.

    For years the German people had a love affair with Hitler. The gigantic social programs and control of media, schools, industry, and markets was exactly the same as this regime.

    This has all happened before folks. We are in deep shit.

  • Matt in GA

    “Saw about Obama’s big ‘bullet train’ idea. Here is a flip side to that wonderful progress. ”

    You mean Obama’s Autobahn? Or should I say Obamabahn?

  • http://patdollard.com Joe Average

    I saw a posting about six weeks ago about where one of the ‘legit’ research groups concluded that Obama got about 10 Million to 15 Million FRAUD votes across the Country from ACORN and LaRaza ballot stuffing.

    I remember that Ohio took almost a half-million fraud registrations and votes to Supreme Court a mont before election.

    So, if they kicked out the false ACORN voters doing 10-20 votes (someone on national TV said he voted 72 times), then Obama really lost the Election about 65%-35%.

  • Marc

    I want to believe we aren’t in deep shit yet, because of the level of dissent of ordinary Americans, but I will give up my “safety” if need be to keep that oath I swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States against all ENEMIES, Foreign and DOMESTIC.

  • kim

    I agree with Marc. I’ve never had to swear an oath to protect the Constitution, but it is in my DNA to do so and I’ve no doubt that I will.

    A lib neighbor of a family member told a Vietnam Vet his actions in that war were “inconsequential”. That his life’s work as a man meant nothing. As you read this, I’m sure the bile is rising in your throat. But let me be so bold to say, that is exactly what we tell every patriot -historic and present- if we do not rise to the call put before us this hour.

    How can we count our own lives more precious than theirs? We can’t and we won’t. Unlike Euros, patriots raised on the food of freedom have acquired the expensive taste for liberty. It is in our blood. And our blood we do not count too precious for freedom’s sake.