Pat Dollard

IT WORKS! JUST DO IT. And there is no long term damage. Does anyone think that this is worse than decapitation?

Well no one has a problem with it here, Hell I know I don’t if used in certain situations. I mean sometimes you need info NOW. I mean it wouldn’t be as reliable as say sleep deprivation, etc other long term methods of extracting info, but hell when you need it then, you need it then not tomorrow.

This isn’t torture.

I’m old school, though. Except for electricity.

Geezus, seriously! This is NOT torture. The libtards are using this as a political pawn and the result will be Americans, many Americans will die because of the power grab of a few.

This is a proven technique, carefully administered by trained personnel. It does not lower our values as a country to use this on terrorists. WTF are people thinking? Really, are we that blind to what’s obvious? Stevie Wonder can see this isn’t torture.

It makes you panic, the worst thing is maybe you aspirate some water which doesn’t tickle but it isn’t fatal by any stretch.

I bet that the number of islamo-fascist terrorists waterboarded is way less than the number of American lefties that have been waterboarded to protest waterboarding.

I wonder if we could show some pictures of what was done to our soldiers when they were captured?

Do a little comparative side by side.

One thing I can guarantee, once this video has gone virul, every red-blooded American will have done this with his buddies. I can’t wait to try it out with mine the next time they come over for drinks or to watch a game… Who can last the longest???!!! :beer: :beer: :beer:

The fag concludes that well, if I think I could die, then maybe it is torture. Idiot. No, its an effective method of interogation.

In high school I had a book called A History of Torture. Those Spanish Inquisition guys knew how to torture. This is a ice cream social to them.

If journalists will sign up to try it like it’s a theme park ride, it’s not torture.

BT, exactly.

Calling waterboarding (and other techniques used) torture, only weakens the meaning of true torture; such as pulling out fingernails, cutting off body parts, burning eyes out, etc. The best analogy I’ve heard, same as what happened to the term rape. Liberals broadened the meaning of rape to include any sex that a woman regretted having, including one night stands. Some went as far to call The term was over-used ALL sex by a man rape. Now that same attention is being paid to torture, broadening it’s description for political gain within a narrow mind-set. It softens the focus on true acts of torture taking place world-wide and weakens our ability to fight against such groups using torture.

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Some went as far to call ALL sex by a man rape. The term was over-used.

Again, how do we get this info out there. Too many people have not seen this, have no idea what waterboarding is, think they know ‘torture’ from B-movies seen while drunk.

Maybe we should have a definition of torture so that when some libtard starts mouthing off about ‘torture’ we have things to waterboard him or her with.

maybe if we used decapitation from the beginning, the libertards would not be upset….shit, they wouldn’t be able to be mad because we are practicing everything they support!!! and we would not have anymore insurgent asshats left to support in our jails…

-aTb

maybe the libertards might start including sex as torture as well….lol

-aTb

What’s lacking is a clear definition of Torture.

One could say waterboarding is not torture because it induces no physical pain. However, a mock execution induces no physical pain but is generally accepted as torture.

One definition of torture is: “any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from … information or a confession..”

Key term is ‘severe pain or suffering’. I think waterboarding does not rise to that level … at best it is coercive.

So, if Barry’s daughters were being held by al-Qaeda and we han in custody an al-Qaeda member who had info that would allow a rescue, you mean to tell me Barry would not do whatever is necessary to the detainee in order to get that info????? Come on!! Why doesn’t someone ask Barry that question??? I’ll bet it would be another Dukakis moment.

I was watching a WWII show on the history channel. They had film of some soldiers or Marines doing a variation of this. When my Uncle came home from Viet Nam in ’67 he told how they did this to get people to talk. Whether it’s in the field manual or not it has been used for generation to get needed information fast.

It works and no permanent damage or intense physical pain. That does fit the deinition of torure in my book.

So, in the comments I see these arguments:
–Waterboarding is effective (presumably, effective at producing accurate intelligence)
–WB is quick
–WB is not as bad as decapitation
–WB is not torture
–WB is a proven technique (presumably, proven to produce accurate intelligence)
–WB is unpleasant but not fatal
–WB is nothing compared to what our enemies do to our captured soldiers
–WB is nothing compared to tortures used throughout history
–WB does not cause permanent damage or intense physical pain
–WB has been used by US Forces since at least WWII

Hmmm.

And, hey, if the guy turns out to be innocent of the accusations, they’ll just pat him on the back and pay for the psychotherapy he’ll need afterwards. Naah, that may end up being expensive. Offer him an “I’ve been whaterboarded by US Army Forces and survived” t-shirt. I’m sure he’ll wear it proudly. Plus, it’ll work as a wonderful conversation starter. Hell, he may even improve his chances of getting laid. In the end, it’s a favour the US will be offering him FOR FREE!!! You don’t get many of those.