Well in fairness there’s always a few subs in range.

Reality is now. And the Reality is if we get in a war with North Korea our guys on the parallel and their will be mostly dead in the first few hours, and Seoul will make Dresden look like a small case of collateral Damage. Not to mentioned losing allot of our best allies in the world. I’d take ROK Marines over just about any other allie we have on any battlefield on any continent.

I’m not saying under no circumstance, but I think people need to acknowledge what the costs of that war would be, and really ask if at any point and time if it’s worth it. Just remember the moment it starts 100,000′s to a million and more will likely be dead in the first day alone. This is not some fucking camel jockey sand pit. This is hardcore cold war fortress, with a shit ton of ordinance waiting to go off.

The only way it would work really is if China was on our side….and that WILL NOT EVER HAPPEN. China pretends to promote peace, but they still back North Korea, and likely always will.

This is a time bomb that will go off sooner or later, but I still pray and hope for a coup within….the best thing that could happen to North Korea is an internal struggle and coup.

Although the South Koreans have made significant upgrades to their arsenal, a potential conflict lines up like the old NATO-USSR with the North having a huge numerical advantage in armor and troops. Both sides have had decades to prepare elaborate tank traps, tunnels and other engineering projects on and under the DMZ.

The in-country US Forces have been reduced by about a third (28K down from 38K) with only about 100 aircraft remaining. By international agreement the US has denuclearized the Korean peninsula eliminating a major numerical equalizer.

Although the US has the ability to quickly reinforce the South (and practices that capability annually as is ongoing now) such reinforcement might come too late. The North is quite public about it’s intent to drive the 35 miles south to take Seoul and has much of the defenses (including the major headquarters in suburban Seoul and Osan) within missile range. They have a demonstrated special ops capability which they are expected to use to capture key facilities in a blitzkrieg strategy to gain as much as possible before the US can react.

I agree this would be a high casualty conflict fought on a scale unimagined by those who have no military background. The civilian casualties would be horrendous.

Bottom line … if you start something over there be prepared to follow through in a huge way. The North has nothing to loose and thinks it has a lot to gain. Who would ultimately prevail is a geo-political issue as it would come down to what China and Russia are likely to do.

Our position has always been that of a defender against an invasion from the north. If we become seen as the aggressor we loose our credibility in that regard and invite Chinese intervention.

We spent billions over the years supporting, training, equipping the S. Korean Army.
If anybody should be blasting the NORKS then the S. Koreans, who are more threatened than anyone, should be the ones to do it.

They have enough elite commando units, undercover moles and agents infiltrated in N. Korea to sabotage any missle launch or planned attack before the rest of the world would even know what the hell is going down.

Billy

Hell no.

Give me a real commander in chief and then I might consider it.

Until then, fuck no.

I don’t want to see our guys being left high and dry, just so the lefties can say war is bad.

Fuck that shit.

The public has no FUCKING clue what the hell they are talking about. I’m ALL for taking careof North Korea if we have to…but I have no illusions what the casualties would be like. it would belike NOTHING Americans have faced for some time.

That county is like a tin foil survivalists wet dream, it is has taken bunkers to an entirely new level with roads that tank columns can use under ground, they have one of the thorniest missle defense systems against any sort of air attack, and unliek the middle east they have a shit ton of well tuned firearms and very hardened well trained men using them.

Sure we could and would ultimately win out, but that would be one hell of a high body county, and Given Seoul’s proximity it likely would mean a civilian death count un heard of since world war II.

What they should have asked was do you have the back bone to face down a country that may be willing to cause a nuclear attack on American citizens or her allies, even if it means losing 100′s of thosands of our armed forces, and maybe millions of civilians lives?

Yeah I’m for taking North Korea out if we have no other choice, but that is not a tango the spineless wussies that have taken over this country are ready for.