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Sunday Talk-Show Fever: Dems Increase Pressure For War Crimes Trials Against Bush Administration – With Damning Video



Apr 27, 2009 15 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

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WASHINGTON (AP) – A leading Democratic senator said Sunday independent investigators should determine whether Bush administration officials ought to face charges over the harsh interrogation techniques used against suspected terrorists.

Other liberal Democratic lawmakers appearing on the Sunday news shows joined Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., in pressuring the Obama administration to pursue investigations into the interrogations policies. But they stopped short of demanding charges against the Bush-era lawyers and other officials who devised the policies that critics have denounced as torture.

Conservative Republican senators characterized the Democratic effort as counterproductive and politically motivated at the least and, at worst, damaging to national security.

Obama has said he would not seek to punish CIA officers and others who carried out interrogations resulting from high-level legal advice and policy decisions within the Bush administration. Obama said Attorney General Eric Holder would decide whether prosecutions were warranted against those who developed the policies.

Levin said he has recommended that the Justice Department select up to three people outside the department, such as retired federal judges, to recommend any charges or other actions against lawyers and others who developed the policies.

“That decision should not be made by politicians, by partisans, by Democrats or Republicans. It is made traditionally by a Department of Justice who is supposed to make these decisions independently,” Levin said.

Last week, the Senate Armed Services Committee, which Levin heads, issued a report linking the CIA’s interrogation program to the military’s aggressive tactics against prisoners at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and in Afghanistan.

The report led Levin and others to dismiss the Bush administration’s contention that the humiliating treatment of prisoners at Abu Ghraib, blamed for inflaming the Iraq insurgency, had been the act of a few misguided soldiers.

Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo., contended that Obama’s release of the memos would have the same effect of inciting people against Americans as the “rogue criminal acts” of U.S. soldiers at Abu Ghraib.

“I don’t think there’s any question it would endanger all of us, because I think it will enhance recruitment for all kinds of terrorists willing could come after us,” Bond said.

Bond also accused Obama of having “demoralized” the CIA and, by revealing the techniques in such detail, had “absolutely destroyed our ability to get further information from terrorists.”

Obama’s Republican rival in last year’s election condemned the use of torture as a violation of the Geneva Conventions and said they endanger U.S. soldiers when they are held prisoner. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., also said the nation is aware of what took place and is ready to move on to more important matters, including the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

“Are you going to prosecute people for giving bad legal advice? Are you going to keep on down this road in order, frankly, to—maybe there’s an element of settling old political scores here,” McCain said. “We need to put this behind us. We need to move forward.”

Sen. Pat Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said he favored consolidating the various committee investigations into a bipartisan commission similar to the one that investigated the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. It’s important, said Leahy, D-Vt., that the nation understand how the decisions were reached and by whom.

“I know some people say, ‘Let’s turn the page,’” Leahy said. “Frankly, I’d like to read the page before we turn it.”

Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Connecticut independent, said the debate is moot because Obama has banned such tactics. A “truth commission” to investigate the interrogation program “will poison the water here in Washington,” Lieberman said. “It will make it harder for the president to do some of the big things he wants to do for the country—not just get the economy going, but get some Republican support for health care reform, energy independence and education reform.”

If there were a review, the Obama administration favors one under way by the Senate Intelligence Committee, partly because of the senators’ access to classified documents, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said.

Levin and Bond appeared on “Fox News Sunday” while McCain and Leahy were interviewed on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” Lieberman appeared on CNN’s “State of the Union” and Gibbs on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”


  • YERMOM

    Leahy says that he would like to read the page before we turn it?!?!?

    too bad this cocksucker didnt think that with the “stimulus” bill.

  • EDinTampa

    these cowards won’t bring it. there is already a back lash on this administration brewing and they know it. this could be the tipping if they do come with it.

    however, if i were a betting man, their cowardice will reign and they will not bring it.

  • erumuhhh

    purges !

  • MinneSoCold

    This is a full-on race now. The dems have to destroy the republicans over warcrimes in order to protect themselves from the tidal wave that will hit them in 2010. The republicans better wise up here or they’ll all be soon riding the boxcars to the FEMA gas stations. The court the dems want to try this in is the court of public opinion to stop the movement or backlash.

  • Steve in NC

    The solution, while distasteful to many, is simple.

    • aboutTObegin

      the solution = remove the current administration and all the congress idiots from office and let the people take the Country back!!!

  • Ivan the Kafir

    “I know some people say, ‘Let’s turn the page,’” Leahy said. “Frankly, I’d like to read the page before we turn it.”

    That sound bite could easily be applied to all of Body Odor’s spending bills. I’d like to have the time to read them before they’re blasted through Congress at something like Mach 3.

  • Lock and Load

    Hell, while we’re at it, why don’t they go after Clinton for letting Osama get away 3 times, and thus unleashing 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq. He is the one really responsible for the war dead, “tortured” prisoners et al because of his failure to act in the first place :evil: :???:

    • BT

      He did wipe out an aspirin factory.

  • pub

    Hey. Wake the hell up, people. 3,000 Americans dead in one day. Over 4.000 American heroes killed fighting the bastards. More hatred from our allies and the Democrats aimed at George Bush than Bin Laden. The Democrats are planning to release terrorists but charge our president and leaders who protect our country.

    WAKE THE HELL UP ALREADY. Has decades of this disgusting anti-American liberal behavior fried your brains? Do you want to leave your children and grandchildren in a country with this filth?

    • BT

      The government education system has succeeded in producing dumb asses who don’t know dick about our history and what sacrifices have been made to make this the greatest nation in the history of mankind. There should be an IQ test required to vote.

  • http://Hey serfer62

    Think about it
    .
    Go ahead with the drunhead court martial. This will galvanize the country into 3 parts; the Pro Americans, the Kommiecrats and the wishy washy POSs.
    .
    I’m betting the first group is larger, better armed and really P.O.d.

  • dogbert41

    Let’s just choose sides, fix bayonets and be done with it.

  • WarBicycle

    Which to you supposed inflicts more pain, a moonbat supported near-term baby having its legs, arms and head pulled off during an abortion or waterboardiing?

    • pub

      If investigations happen, your comment should be the pat answer to every question posed. :beer: