Conservative Grass-Roots Resistance Movement’s Supply Lines Have Been Cut

May 18th, 2009 (109) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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Scared Conservative Billionaires Back Out Of Even Victory In Iraq Day

I’ve been saying for a long time now that the suit and tie leadership of the Conservative movement are cowards, unwilling to fight the political war we are in. They have now abandoned themselves to nothing more than hoping against hope, and wishful thinking in the face of brutal reality. The war will not go away by ignoring it, and victory will not be achieved by merely hoping and praying for it. No man can rationally counsel himself nothing more than the fanciful promise of some kindly intervention of fate. And it is despicable for these fat, rich, cowards of the Conservative political, talking head, and monied classes to cower in their mansions, while we in the grass-roots fight, are imprisoned, have our character assassinated, and perhaps die, on their behalf.

I am not being irresponsible by mixing politics with the troops. It’s time to drop the bull and the pretense, everybody. And if I’m talking to you, you know I’m talking to you. The troops continue to suffer at the hands of their domestic politically-motivated enemy. It is only through this political war that the troops can be protected, from the memories of those who have fought, died, and won, to those who serve today and to those who will serve tomorrow. Don’t even think about chastising me for mixing politics with the troops. The time for that bull is over. The military is at stake, their lives are at stake, and your life is at stake. The games are over, the pretense not only unsustainable, but suicidal. The war has found us, just like it did it on September 11, 2001. And to all of you who choose to bury your head in the sand, I hope I have the chance to kill you before the enemy does. I will probably be more humane in my execution.

Never forget. These so-called leaders have done nothing more than create a new enemy for themselves. You and me. May God have mercy on their wretched souls.

Save America. Get ACTIVE.

Gathering of Eagles:

By Chris Hill 05/15/2009

It is with a heavy heart and more than a little anger that I must tell you all that the VI Rally scheduled for 13 June in D.C. has been cancelled. Our sponsors pulled out a couple weeks ago and though we tried mightily to get others we have come up dry. It appears that the money guys on our side of the argument are running scared from the current political climate. The Park Service is going to pull our permits for lack of resources; simply put, no portalets or EMT services means no rally. I apologize for any inconvenience this causes, but there’s is simply nothing we can do.

We had commitments from Capt. Phillips of the Somali pirates event, Marcus Luttrell USN SEAL (Lone Survivor), former Congressman Duncan Hunter, Pat Dollard, various Blue and Gold Star family members, threeseparate musical acts, a potential video up link to Iraq, the 9/11 chopper, dragsters painted to represent the different services and an after party at the Hard Rock Cafe. Unfortunately, the hard work expended to put this together, by a number of people will now be for naught. Please don’t let this discourage your efforts. It is all the more important that we redouble our efforts concerning our heroes in the desert. I hope you all understand how difficult it is for me to send this message. Thank you for all your efforts. Manchu.


Chris Hill
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  • http://snooperreport.com Mark Harvey (aka Snooper)

    U.N.A.C.C.E.P.T.A.B.L.E.

    Who are these cowards? We need to expose their cowardice and roll right over their lamed asses.

    • SgtJenz

      They can fear obambi’s gestapo but the wrath of the citizen will bury them.

      7.62…”weapons release”

    • Mike Mose

      Mark, I don’t believe they would back out unless there was a very good reason. It’s hard telling what the hard core communist did. This is not a small decision and it will impact millions of people.

      They have been shown something that scared the crap out of them.

    • maggiew

      Obama has jokingly used the threat of the IRS.
      Intimidation is a fearful weapon if the targeted
      allow it to cower them.
      I do agree there is a lot of cowardice abounding.
      These fat cats should remember a basic fact of life,
      they cannot take it with them. It’s just stuff.
      I guess we need to start from the ground up on
      building a conservative movement that has resolution
      and spine.

    • http://www.newsandprayer.com Wanda Fay

      Mike Moose you said “Mark, I don’t believe they would back out unless there was a very good reason.” No communication to Chris Hill, no answer, no reason, no communication! That’s what kills marriages and friendships. Silence in this situation is NOT a good reason! Our troops, our soldiers who died out on the front lines didn’t give lame ass excuses, they didn’t pull out, they didn’t let us down! These ass holes are PURE COWARDS Their silence proves they are cowards. They have no excuse and certainly using the current political climate as an excuse hits the charts. Choosing to be intimidated by the obama Nazi’s over honoring and giving thanks to our troops for it’s GREAT VICTORY in Iraq is as cowardice as it comes.

  • http://www.yankeemom.com yankeemom

    “It appears that the money guys on our side of the argument are running scared from the current political climate”

    The “current political climate” is exactly the time to step up and shout “Victory!!”

    Imagine – a celebration of our troops’ VICTORY causes (supposedly) right-leaning folk to back out because there’s a “democrat” in the Whitehouse?? Am I reading this right?
    If I am, then shame on them!! They deserve to be publicly scorned.
    What a bunch of milquetoasts this country is now infested with. Soros is probably laughing his head off.
    I am so disgusted.

  • Phil Byler

    Mark Harvey (aka Snooper) has it right: name names, so that they can be publicly shamed.

  • Mrs. Scoot

    That is disgusting to say the least. I don’t understand what those pussies are so afraid of. Obama? PFFFFTTTT!

    • alex

      or perhaps they are all just on the same team.

    • Lone Wolf

      That’s what I think – just look at how Jon Kyl is now reluctant to go after Pelosi after she has changed her story for the umpteenth time. Obviously he somehow thinks it is to his (and the other Republicans) advantage not to use this opening to attack. The ‘political class’ has apparently decided that they have more in common with each other than they do with the citizens of this country, and they have come to share the same agenda on both sides of the aisle.

  • tlk

    The first thing I thought of when I read this was…who are these people??? They need to hear from us.

  • http://patdollard.com Pat Dollard

    They are from the State of Texas.

    • tlk

      This is very weird. :shock:

    • Scoot

      Line them up at the Alamo.

    • YERMOM

      I personally would like you to be more specific Mr. Dollard.

      This way those of us that care can take the fight to them. Boycott their business perhaps?

      They surely owe some sort of explanation.

    • http://patdollard.com Pat Dollard

      Give me a minute on that. I have to respect one source while I communicate with others.

    • YERMOM

      noted and standing by.

    • LG

      Pat,
      We are ALL looking for names.

      A Texan.

  • http://alcove-one.blogspot.com/ Rob

    Like Vietnam, we will have to wait a couple of decades before we can celebrate our vets after the left is done attacking them through the media. Like Obama’s speech in Berlin, peace and prosperity in Baghdad will magically arrive because people around the world “stood together”. What BS.

  • Specter

    Ya know, when I first heard of this event I had a feeling something was going to get in it’s way.

    The fact that the left uses the ends justifies the means mantra does spread fear among the weak minded rich man who’s afraid of losing his cozy little life.

    If you or I were faced with that prospect would you or I react differently. The only people who can answer are the ones who’ve had alot then lost it all.

    This really sucks folks, it really sucks.

  • DC

    Eat the Rich! :mad: :gun: :gun: :gun:

  • Scoot

    These guys that pulled the plug not only shit on the people of the United States, but our troops as well.

    The troops deserve to be recognized for what they fought for, and also to honor the ones who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our country.

    The bastards in Washington need to held accountable for this travesty too.

    • Scoot

      *should have said – These guys that pulled the plug not only shit on the troops, but the people of the United States as well.

  • Professor Bill

    We definitely need to out these people. Pat, if you are willing to castigate them the way you did in the first two paragraphs then out them. We have no room nor tolerance for cowards and wimps in this fight. They need to feel our wrath as consumers and citizen patriots.

    If you are unwilling to out them, then your words are meaningless simply because I for one have no idea who you are talking about. Faceless and nameless means safety for them, it’s harder to cower without anonimity.

    • http://patdollard.com Pat Dollard

      There’s no need to attempt to manipulate me, and I appreciate your attempts to school me on right from wrong in this situation, but again, there’s no need. My history of stepping into the breach on behalf of right in such situations speaks for itself. Look at my response above to understand where I am with this.

  • American Woman

    Im so disgusted!! Im so angry I have no words. :twisted:
    Words have little meaning these days, actions speak louder than words.

    • sassysuz

      You have said it all right there American Women, action responsible from our point of view action!

    • American Woman

      To respond to this shit day after day is like spinning your tires, it doesnt get us anywhere.
      The way I look at it is this is war and either you are on my/our side or obongos side. Good vs. evil
      with me/us or against me/us
      for liberty or against it
      for America or against her
      for capitalism or against it

      There is no “common ground”,negotiations, comprimise or meeting halfway this is freedom vs. slavery

      We all know the agenda on the table and I regect it whole heartedly, with every cell in my body.
      The line has been drawn. get involved in your local communitys and state politicians and hold there feet to the fire. remind them who they work for and make them uncomfortable. say it like it is, dont be “polite” Im tired of hearing in small circles about what is going on. Tell it like it is. “This is a marxist takeover and what are you going to do to protect this state from federal intrusion and our rights as citizens?” Some of these leaders want to step up but need a base to give them support. Political correctness is for pussies! Be bold go to campaign gatherings and step up!
      God bless America
      America bless God!

  • http://www.myspace.com/methushelah Demogorgon

    History is replete with lessons on the folly of capitulation for the sake of self-preservation. These as yet un-named individuals have only hastened the day ‘their’ fortunes will be confiscated in the name of “the people” by the crocodile that is our new Fascist-Left (a.k.a. Communist) government.

    The fools :!:

  • IRONMIKE

    Even grass roots depend on sunshine, rain and soil. Luke 12:48 says “to whom much is given, much is expected”

    Perhaps this is a well thought out way to stop our efforts while the grass is still young.

    We have more to gain, they have more to loose.

    Still, we press on.

  • GRIZZ

    Fuck em.Its not the rich shits that will get results in this country.It will be the armed citizen.

  • Bob

    whoever they are I think they will change their minds as time goes on.

  • Storm 0311

    First they came for the Jews, but I’m not a Jew. Then they came for the …………….

  • prestonbrooks

    :twisted: So, Oboy is already winning; Germans were afraid to confront the SA. These phonies are afraid of Hussein. We continue to slide into fascism. Soon, this site will be shut down as will all the other sites which do not tout subservience to Hussein and his regime. This sucks. Hell, after he goes to Egypt for his big Islamic speech, we might all have to convert. I’m not sure how close to the truth that might really be. :cry:

    • SgtJenz

      I’ll die on my feet, refusing to the end to live as a slave on my knees.

    • prestonbrooks

      Well, so will I, when it comes down to that. There has to be a better way out. Secession, massive peaceful resistance, but they are getting ready to cut the ‘net. Net2 is being readied right now, which will be controlled by the various governments. All you will get is the Oboy/NWO channel, 24/7. Fact is, unless you are an Obama Zombie, the Govt has declared war on you. Check up on the pig flu lately? It’s still spreading. Why has it disappeared from the MSM so quickly?? Link: http://flutracker.rhizalabs.com/

    • prestonbrooks

      :neutral: Notice all the areas with the “flu” are areas controlled by the Cartel/NWO? :idea:

  • GregGS

    Conservatives need their own “Tides” foundation like the Marxist, so the well off
    can launder money into conservative groups without being directly in contact.
    The “Tides Foundation” for the left dumps millions into hard left groups that break
    law’s in order to get what they want. We of course don’t need to go that far but it would infuse allot of money into groups that care about the constitution etc.

  • B. Verner

    Is it possible that the sponsors pulled out for reasons other than the “political climate”?

    Many corporations (assuming they were corporate sponsors) have gone bankrupt and folded in the last eight months; many individuals have lost their fortunes. Before we tar and feather these guys, is it possible they just didn’t have the money they thought they would to support this?

    Just something to consider.

    • Gaige Mosher

      Yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case. We need some more information before we pass judgment. Who were these sponsors, specifically? I recall only a small-time publisher as one.

    • http://patdollard.com Pat Dollard

      No small-time publisher was involved. Where did you hear that?

    • Gaige Mosher

      I’ve been misinformed, it appears.

      But that historical book-printers, prints up leather-bound classics and sells some others as well. I think they were selling Once A Marine. It was mentioned that a quarter of their profits were going to ACTIVE, I thought.

      I think I’m just talking about of my ass at this point. Care to correct me Pat?

    • http://patdollard.com Pat Dollard

      Just a small point of confusion on your part Gaige. The publisher is a sponsor of ACTIVE, but not the Victory in Iraq Day event.

    • Gaige Mosher

      Ah, I thought they were one in the same. My mistake. Thanks Pat.

      That is a damned shame though. I was really looking forward to the rally. Was going to road-trip across half the US with some friends for it.

      Here’s hoping we can secure some more stable sponsors and reschedule it for a later date. Hey, why not just fold them into the July 4th Tea Parties around the US? Make that one of the official planks of the movement, thereby pulling the veterans and current service personnel into the fold?

  • B. Verner

    I say this because I have a few friends whose jobs involve fundraising from “conservative” sources – it has been an extremely difficult year for them primarily because of the economy (according to them). When you’re laying off 60% of your workforce, it more difficult to fund events like this.

    I have no idea as to the sponsor of this event, I am only speculating.

  • Mr. Standfast

    Down size to some place cheaper, but get it done.

  • Lone Wolf

    So how much money are we talking about here? Maybe it really *is* time to have a bake sale for the Pentagon – because we know what the alternative will be if the Left gets it’s way.

    • tlk

      How much money does this require?

    • Blade Runner

      Remember Dan’s bake sale? Dude raised a helluva lot of money.

      :arrow: “The initial idea for Dan’s Bake Sale was conceived on the The Rush Limbaugh Show in 1993. One caller, “Dan” from Fort Collins, Colorado, told Rush Limbaugh that he was photocopying a coworker’s subscription to the Limbaugh Letter, Rush’s monthly magazine that covers current events. The reason was that Dan’s wife was not a fan of the show, and would not allocate the funds needed from the family budget to subscribe to the Letter. Limbaugh light-heartedly informed Dan that he disapproves his photocopying printed material, and offhandedly suggested that Dan organize a bake sale to raise funds for a subscription, spoofing then-recent bake sales to raise funds to reduce the national debt.

      After Dan’s call ended, the next caller to the show noted that he felt Rush was a bit harsh, and that he intended to attend Dan’s Bake Sale. Rush again dismissed the topic. The next caller noted that he would like to attend Dan’s Bake Sale. Rush repeatedly announced they would take no more “bake sale” calls but the gig was on and everyone calling in for the next week or so put in a plug for Dan’s Bake Sale.

      Limbaugh never seriously proposed a Bake Sale and neither did “Dan.” But the landslide of support for Dan and his bake sale was on. Eventually, some 65,000 people from all over the United States and as far away as Australia showed up in Fort Collins for Dan’s Bake Sale.[11] Jay Leno even made jokes about it on The Tonight Show.

      Limbaugh did attend, and had a brief presentation, giving Dan his first issue of his subscription.

      Dan considered making it an annual event, but agreed with Limbaugh’s assessment that the original just could never again be replicated.”

  • http://ftfreedom.blogspot.com/ littlefox (Honeymoons for Heroes)

    maybe they know more than we do and somethings goin down in DC in June???

    maybe our enemies are much bigger than Obama and team??? Read Javier Solana….
    http://the-obama-nation.blogspot.com/2009/01/whats-in-name.html

    maybe God IS in control and we need to let it be…
    Focus on recruiting, organizing and stocking-up.
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    • Mike Mose

      Littlefox, Make no mistake, God’s big hand is in complete control

  • http://ftfreedom.blogspot.com/ littlefox (Honeymoons for Heroes)

    and if somehow we come out of this economic tailspin …we will BE THERE IN FORCE Sept 12, 2009 :gun:

    You can look at it as a blessing too…I can go now :mrgreen:

  • Mike Mose

    There is a very real possibility that the money people from Texas will make their stand at the Texas state line. They know that many states are lost to Obama’s Marxist communists in DC. They also know that the federal government is in a run away or renegade state.

    Until every state has claim sovereignty from the federal government, 35 are now in the process, I would suspect that money men will be very careful getting over extended because it could be called traitorous by the feds. With penalties. Choose your words carefully my friends.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h645:

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645

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  • CPLViper

    Hotel room cancelled. Pat, another time for a hand shake?

    • http://patdollard.com Pat Dollard

      Probably sooner than you’d like. This is shaping up as a hellacious (in a good way) ACTIVE week.

    • Wigpeeler

      it’s gonna be a rocky path we tread. We should expect many setbacks, many which will be worse than this.

  • Ranger

    Fuck. I was really really looking forward to VI Day.

    • http://patdollard.com Pat Dollard

      There was a thing or two I felt really needed to be said on the part of the troops. As political as this post was, I wasn’t going there in my speech.

      As of today, those days are over.

    • maggiew

      Pat,
      Now you know why there is what is commonly known
      as ‘The Remnant’.
      I think many in this forum are a part of that group.

    • Scoot

      I know many or all of us are part of the proud group, Maggie.

  • sassysuz

    No Fear this event will happen come hell or high water and be done right!

  • Armando Garcia

    Dude I said it last night, revolutions and civil wars, shit even politics are funded by foreign country’s. French Indian War, the British. Our war for Independence, the French. And so on through out history. We have no foreign backer, hell wouldn’t even want them if they came about. But decent from with in, that’s utterly disgusting. Our fight will be just like taxes and our gov., we always fit the bill.
    Lets take the fight to them, if every one keep your tax money for now on they, could not fund any thing, and could never prosecute all of us, we would have the money and the people would be back in charge, would work if it was every one, hell so many of us are out of work anyways, and all these new taxes will bleed us dry. The last straw, to began our war of Independence was taxes, how will it be any different now. All at once.

    • sassysuz

      The Fifth Column my Friend

    • Armando Garcia

      How sad I had to go to wikipedia, as I have never heard of the fifth column. Guess I have been so use to, being on the wining side. We will win our battle to save our Republican, unlike the unfortunate Spanish. Hears to the Three Percenters

  • Wigpeeler

    Oh yeah, I finally added a new gravitar. The SC secession flag! :beer: :beer: :gun:

  • DoubleTap

    Talk Talk Talk. That is all we have now. The political process in this country is done. The rule of law is done. The constitution is nothing but so much paper for our new socialist regime to wipe their asses on. We will never again be given a real public forum to voice any comments of descent. The tea parties have already been effectively turned into a joke by the left. There is nothing left but the left. The right is looking for a hole to jump into and a rock to pull over the top.

    This is all about money – and the left owns all of our money now. They have stolen it from under our very noses.

    Hope you are ready for the “I Love Obama” branding iron to be set in place on your forehead. The mark of the devil is upon us all.

    • Gaige Mosher

      Wow.

      Melodrama is not helpful in the slightest, man.

    • DoubleTap

      I was not being even slightly melodramatic. The only thing that has not been proven as a fact is the branding… that will come soon enough in one form or another.

      The question is what are you willing to *DO* about it other than talk?

    • maggiew

      Double Tap,
      The fat lady ain’t sang yet.

    • sassysuz

      My impatient friend in due course we will take the field, but sucide is crazy. Even the great American Armies took care of logistics first. We do not have extra troops to offer up as sacrifice at this moment.

    • Gaige Mosher

      Well first, I’m willing to get you some Thorazine before you hurt someone.

      Then I’ll kill anyone who directly and actively tries to violate my civil liberties. Acquiring the means to do it now.

    • DoubleTap

      Funny guy – I guess you can’t handle the truth and think everyone who identifies the obvious needs to be medicated. I’m not waxing poetic or just being a drama queen. Just stating it the way I see it.

      We (the whole conservative right) talk, they (liberal Facist, Socialists) act. We talk some more, they pass legislation to limit our rights. I honestly just don’t see much action from anyone on the right – just talk and fear.

      And No, I am not an optimist at this point. The last year has proven to me that the majority of people in this country WANT to be enslaved by the left. Most of them are just lazy good-for-nothing bastards that want to be taken care of so they can sit on the sofa, eat Cheetos and watch their big screen TV while the world falls down around them. They feel it is not their problem as long as someone is there to take care of them. When that “someone” disappears it will be far too late for the couch-taters to react.

      The taters don’t want to know about anything, they won’t listen and they are happily willing to let the left lead them down the path to ruin. People in this country have no spine any more – they are just soft little taters with no brain, no mind, and no thirst for liberty. I am ashamed, my father would be astonished that people he fought with to keep the country safe have now given it away on a silver platter.

  • MD_Vet

    Here’s a different perspective….

    If you were to think of the rally as a “Normandy Invasion” like event, you would want to have maximum impact and the greatest likelihood of success. It may be too soon to launch the big offensive…oshithead has yet to piss off and disillusion enough of the dimwits that voted for and support him

    The 912 folks (Glen Beck) already have a big rally planned for Sept. 12. By combining forces we will have more folks showing up. Also, I think the Tea Party folks have a big rally planned on July 4th and they will be itching for another chance to protest again in the Fall.

    Let’s give oasshole enough time to really step on his dick and then make the kind of statement that needs to be made in Sept. Going too soon with a paltry turnout would be worse than not going at all.

    • Gaige Mosher

      My point exactly. We need to combine forces, not split them, in the face of the enemy.

      This is, I think, much the rationale behind the Patriots. Pat knows what I’m talking about. One of the elements of the Patriots was that it was a means for ALL conservative movements to stay in contact with each other and coordinate. It was an umbrella organization more than anything, in addition to it’s sort of side goal of personal and group preparedness.

    • maggiew

      How about http://www.redstate.com.
      He’s just taken on the RNC in Florida.
      They are begging him to back off because his
      challenge to them has been effective.
      He’s put up a Facebook page: Not One Red Cent
      because the RNC in Florida has already financially
      backed Charlie Crist without a vote having been
      cast yet.
      Erickson is a real fighter.

    • aboutTObegin

      well said MD_Vet!

      Enough time to rally everyone together and double the impact that the Tea Parties make! It is about patience….through patience much can be achieved, Double Tap, I understand your frustration, anger, and willingness to act in order to preserve our Constitution and our Great Nation…I feel the same way you do, but much more can be achieved while patiently waiting and watching and blending in rather than running straight into a firefight blindly. What will that accomplish? We need good people such as yourself in this fight that is now being waged within our Country. We all know the Left is being funded by the radical muslims, how do you think that the usurper came up with all that cash during his campaign? I am currently deployed overseas and have been watching and waiting and learning in frustration….but I have learned that there are many great and true Americans on this board and in Active!!!! and we ALL bring something to the table…so for now….relax and get to know your enemy intimately, that is the only way we will be able to defeat them.

      Secondly, we need an alternate means of communication between everyone and not be dependant on the internet, even though it can remain as our primary means of communication. What do you propose Pat, anyone?

      -aTb
      :mad:

  • Mike Mose

    Join together with alike people makes sense. It’s to bad the troops weren’t on their way home now. We could join with them. It would seem that the USA has been turned into some 3rd world country with a sorry ass African Colonel in charge.

  • shootemdead

    how much money do they need? where can we donate? can we attempt to raise the money?

    • http://patdollard.com Pat Dollard

      I’ve been working on something with Beverly and I’m about to call Chris.

    • Bob USMC

      Pat, I’m wondering if perhaps our brand new 501c3, ConcertsForTroops.Org, can be of some help in this matter. Specifically, if there’s any legal way that fundraising for the musical entertainment part of the VI Day event could be routed through our 501c3 non-profit, we’re wide-open to helping out if we can. A 501c3 non-profit can not, however be partisan or political.

      We have the legal ability to give receipts for tax deduction purposes whereas Gathering Of Eagles, as a 501c4 non-profit, does not. That could have been a great hindrance to their fund-raising efforts. With the economy the way it is, folks may want to get a tax write off if possible as opposed to not being able to write off the donations. Every little bit helps these days!

      Try to contact me when you get a second or two and I’ll also bring this up to Chris Hill. Let’s see what we can do to make something kool happen for our troops.

      (Fingers crossed)

    • 31Mike

      shootemdead…..It was $500,000, but it never materialized…so like Pat said….something else is in the works.

      I know how you all feel…it sucks, but….

      Everybody should just forget about any “payback” to deep pockets that backed out of this. Capt. Bailey has too much class to go that route. He’s a stand-up guy. Just have to regroup and put another plan together.

    • Specter

      I can’t help but agree completely with you 31Mike.

  • TerryTate

    Matthew 19:24 (New International Version)

    24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

    ============================================================

    Some of you may be saying, yeah WTF does that verse have to do with this. Well, lets just say, when men have wealth they are a lot less likely to do what is necessary to do what is right, as it might diminish said wealth. That in itself is why so many of our founding fathers were great men. Many were great and wealthy men who ended up paupers for doing the right thing. So, here today we have men of measurable wealth, abandoning principles, to protect themselves.

    I am willing to fight, but then I have already lost everything (monetarily at least). Is that what it truly takes for people to get it, or be willing to risk their lives to do what is right?

    My gut says yes, so watch your back when dealing with the rich. It is easier to sell you out than for them to sell off their stuff.

    • maggiew

      Amen!
      /Been there and done that.

  • maggiew
  • http://ftfreedom.blogspot.com/ littlefox (Honeymoons for Heroes)

    I have learned so much here…THANK YOU

    in case new folks missed this:
    http://patdollard.com/2009/02/a-brief-history-of-political-correctness/
    and
    http://patdollard.com/2009/02/psychopaths/
    and
    where is the Deep Thoughts “China Laughing Now…hahaha” That one should be required study in EVERY High school in America!
    I wish I could find it…I’ll keep lookin…

    My husband wants to know HOW another “march” with card board signs is going to stop what is happening? Now that I’ve read the stuff above. I can not answer his question…
    and that doesn’t happen often.
    :arrow: Anybody got a good answer? Please… :sad:

    oh…and check this out…
    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13629
    “The only thing new in the world is the history you don’t know.” -Harry S. Truman

    • Lone Wolf

      The fact is that almost any other nation on Earth would have wielded that power to conquer people, territory, and resources. All we asked for was enough land to bury our dead soldiers, then helped rebuild the European and Japanese economies to compete with our own industries – oh, the horror of the evil ‘empire’ of the U.S.! No good deed goes unpunished.

      Chomski should have tried being a dissident in the USSR or China if he wanted to know what a real tyrannical government looks like.

    • aboutTObegin

      its not card board signs anymore….its megaphones so you become a needle in the enemies side….
      torture them via non stop audible loud tones….or maybe just questions will do like ” Wheres your Birth Certificate Usurper?” ….etc etc etc

      -aTb

    • http://ftfreedom.blogspot.com/ littlefox (Honeymoons for Heroes)

      Lone Wolf, aTb, Thanks for helping me understand!
      Really… I mean it…I learn so much here! :smile:

  • maggiew

    Now this is pathetic.
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/118528/GOP-Losses-Span-Nearly-Demographic-Groups.aspx?CSTS=alert

    RNC still doesn’t get it.
    Building will have to be from the ground up,
    and lots of culling to keep the RINOs out.

  • GRIZZ

    I reiterate my first statement.

  • Bob

    Hey Double Tap I certainly understand your frustration, have often had very tempting scenarios’ playing in my head for 30 years, I think you know what I mean, I think many know what I mean. We must,however,take a realistic approach right now. Consider the fact that, although Active may one day offer the solution, today we are new and few in number, we are spread thin and logistics are wanting.I am from Ohio and have had sporadic at best communication from other Ohio members of Active, and this has only happened on the site, hell we don’t even have a group to join yet,but I continue to recruit and spread the word. We must keep our minds’ on the big picture. It took over 50 years to get in this mess and it might take just as long to get out of it, though I doubt it. In the mean time you might enjoy a book by John Ross entitled ‘Unintended Consequences’ Trust me,you will enjoy this read. Now everybody say “Hi” to those monitoring this site.

    • aboutTObegin

      HI :shock:

    • commontater

      Unintended Consequences is one of the best books I’ve read..in my whole 50+ life. It’s a brilliant, historical novel of great import; sort of like a training manual, wouldn’t you say? ;> If I can only take 5 books with me to the gulag, UC, The Patriot, the Bible, The Prophet, and How I Became Free in an Unfree World (Libertarian) would be my choices.

      Anyone ask John Ross if it’s “time” yet? heh heh

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=88997048760 jake

    Rich does not equal bad. Rich and pulling out of a great event equals bad. Enough of the rich people are bad crap.

    • Gaige Mosher

      No shit, aren’t our enemies supposed to be the freaks who believe in class warfare?

  • Saxon

    Secession is the only way I can think of that will work with the best results. We have to have a viable place to gather,stage and shelter ourselves. We need a populace that supports us as well. You may be from Alaska,Ohio or South Carolina it does`nt matter. If just one state with ALL of us capable of picking up a rifle,shovel,or farming for Gods sake will be needed. SOmeone here once posted they`ed drive oall the way across the country to be free. I agree,and other states will follow and those Katrina type shitheads will flee that state as fast as they can load a u-haul. There is hope and here in North Florida alone the secessionist movement builds each day. We have to also recruit more young people and get them off the kool aid.

  • http://thedametruth.net thedametruth

    I’d like to reply individually to each and every one of you who posted a comment here, and thank you for your passion and patriotism, for THAT is what makes us Americans, and what makes us WIN. Chris did a beautiful job on my show tonight and I’d encourage everyone who was unable to be there to listen to the archive. He deserves our full attention and will continue to get mine for the duration. I am honored to be among such a fine group. As the 2/8 is landing in A’stan right about now, I am reminded more strongly than ever [as if any of us needed reminding] that we face war both on foreign soil and on our home front. We, The Remnant, must fight here at home as our brave soldiers fight overseas, so that they have something to come home to besides broken dreams and tattered Constitution. We are all together in this and we WILL get to the bottom of it, and the go the distance to take our country back.

    Godspeed all troops both here and abroad.

    The Dame

    • Sandy

      I will be sure to listen to the archive. Thank you Dame!

    • aboutTObegin

      Thank you Dame!!! There are many of us over here that are in disbelief at what is occuring now in our Country!!!

      -aTb

  • http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profile/TwanaBlevins Infidel – Twana

    “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”
    –John Stewart Mill–

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”
    Samuel Adams

    • Sandy

      Ament Twana! Thank you for the updates you left for me. I will get caught up soon.

      I am grateful to be among people who care and are not just going by day to day as if nothing is happening.

      They cannot take these things away from our troops and their families!

      Fear will not conquer us! :evil:

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=53063748740 TXbroncbuster

    I wanted to let everyone of you, my fellow Patriots and preservers of freedom, know that we down here in Texas are working steadily to put together a July 4th event that is expected to be the epicenter of the conservative movement! We are NOT counting on support from ANY corporations, so there is very little likelyhood that this event will be cancelled. There are many groups in our area who are coming together for this event, including several 9.12 groups, several Tea Party groups, and several independent grassroots groups. Please, spread the word to your respective groups.

    On a separate note, you who are calling this fight lost already are getting on my nerves! The enemy may appear to have the upper hand just because their leader, Hussein, is sitting in the oval office, but we are smarter, meaner, and much more well-armed than they are. You might say “But, but ,but they have the miltary!”, and you just need to think about one thing: Who is on the other side of those rifles that you fear? It’s your sons, your daughters, your brothers and sisters, and most of them feel the same way WE do! The United States of America may seem like the United States of Bizarro right now, but we are the people and this is our country! We are growing in number by the day as more and more people are awakened from the MSM-induced slumber. We have enough of our enemies counting us out in the MSM….we don’t need our own doing the same! If you don’t have something helpful and/or patriotic to say, then shut your mouth (or don’t type a damned thing!)!! :beer: :gun:

    • aboutTObegin

      gooo Texas!!!! Gods Country :smile:

      sooo, let me bring it up again, we all need an alternate form of communication that is not the ineternet (which will remain our primary until compromised by the usurper or some gestapo agency)….any suggestions anyone…once we decide we need to act immediately and set it up!

      -aTb

    • Bill

      pre-paid phones changed often?

  • http://www.dirtydozensbunker.com Sanders

    Some folks just have to decide what Freedom is worth to them, and what they will sacrifice for it.

    For those who need to be reminded:
    http://www.bethlehempaonline.com/signers.html

    • toldyouso

      Thanks for posting that again Sanders. I need to read that about once a month for perspective.

  • DesignR

    I take a 4 day weekend without Internet or media of any kind to paint the house, and all hell breaks out.

    Ditto’s.

    It’s time to know who’s with you and who’s against.

  • http://www.yankeemom.com yankeemom

    In adversity comes strength.
    There are so many here on this thread who have the blood of Patriots running through their veins. There are many of us who have the blood of Patriots who died fighting the fight. Many who’s forefathers lived in distant countries.
    We live in a young country ~ There are always times of strife in growing up. That doesn’t mean you just lie down and fade away. Nope, you just stay up and exert more effort to keep the good coming. (Just ask any parent of a teenager.)
    The men and women who helped birth this country had many, many setbacks – some lethal. Yet, here we are.
    I cannot even think of backing off because by doing so, I would be basically spitting on their memories and their actions.