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Democrats Warn Against National Health Care



May 16, 2009 10 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

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Politco:

Two powerful groups of moderate Democratic lawmakers have met with their House leaders to warn against pushing health care reform proposals too far to the left.

The New Democrat Coalition and the Blue Dogs met separately Thursday with Democratic leaders to push for legislation they could embrace.

“We made it pretty clear that there are 51 of us, and if they want our vote on health care reform, we’re going to be pretty involved in writing the bill,” said Rep. Mike Ross (D-Ark.), chairman of the Blue Dogs’ health care task force.

The first-of-their-kind meetings signaled that it could be more difficult than many expected for the House to pass a more progressive bill as a counterweight to a more moderate version expected to come from the Senate.

Both the New Dems and Blue Dogs have been working to disabuse their leaders of that notion. In a recent letter, the Blue Dogs expressed concern about being left out of the legislation’s development. Together, the two blocs represent 122 of the 218 votes need to pass legislation.

The moderates are wary of being forced to “walk the plank” and vote for a more liberal bill that is out of step with their district constituents, only to see a more moderate version forged later between House and Senate negotiators — as many expect will happen.

Moderates want a “vote everyone’s interested in selling, not a vote that we have to walk away from,” said a senior staffer for a New Democrat familiar with the discussion.

The leaders of both groups met with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland and other leaders, including Reps. George Miller of California, Charles Rangel of New York and Frank Pallone of New Jersey — the chairmen of key committees, say those familiar with the meetings.

n the meetings, the Blue Dogs were concerned with process and how the reforms would be paid for, while the New Dems were focused on policy.

Still, both groups raised concerns over the controversial proposal to create a public insurance plan that competes with the private insurance market.

During the meeting with the New Dems, the committee chairmen made it clear that including the public plan was central to bringing costs down, according to a source familiar with the meetings.

The groups agree that the public plan can’t be based on Medicare rules, that it must pay for itself and operate under the same rules that private plans do. The principles are similar to a public plan option rolled out by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.).

“There’s a good chance if we can work out the details — because I don’t think they can pass it without us — having a public plan option that can compete may be the compromise,” Ross said.

But a senior leadership aide involved in the process said that Blue Dogs are going to have to make a choice.

“Do they want to pay for [health reform], or do they want to kill the public plan?” the aide said. “I don’t think they’re going to have the political will to do both.”

The leadership suggested that the New Dems take the lead on holding six major health care organizations accountable for their promise this week to cut $2 trillion in the rate of health care growth over 10 years — an agreement that already has one of the groups backpedaling.

On Thursday, American Hospital Association President Richard Umbdenstock told his members on a conference call that the agreement had been misrepresented.

But after reports of the call became public, the hospital association and its five partners released a statement Friday that said they remain committed to cutting costs and “look forward to offering cost-savings recommendations in the weeks ahead.”


  • mike3481

    Article – “The leadership suggested that the New Dems take the lead on holding six major health care organizations accountable for their promise this week to cut $2 trillion in the rate of health care growth over 10 years…”
    ________________________________________

    From what I heard this Friday morning is that there was in fact NO PROMISE OR AGREEMENT by the private sector crew to cut costs.

    Only that Obama came out of the meeting and said to the assembled White House Press Corps that there was a promise by the private sector Reps to cut costs.

    In other words, the President of the United States lied through his teeth to the American people AND the White House Press Corps, so far, has let him get away with it along with every other lie that’s emerged from his mouth.

    :gun: :evil:

  • Armando Garcia

    Democrats that aren’t liberals, then what the hell kind of freaks are you. Socialist but not straight, straight but not socialist? Gun lover, just don’t support the troops. Oh i got it you actuality married that hippie chick from collage and she throw away your balls. You punks have gotten what you wanted and now your mad because you don’t have a front row seat at Americas destruction, Sher HOPE your happy with the CHANGE. Why don’t you pansy grow some nuts, and instead of coming out of the closet, come out of the garage Conservative. Ya live the new alliterative life style, be a Conservative.

    • Armando Garcia

      I had to replace the word g@y with the word, straight in order for it to post, makes a little more scene that way. So whats up with freedom of speech anyway, it must not apply to conservatives when their the minority, or just not on Conservative pro-American sites????

  • Sully

    The so called ‘New Dems’ and the newer of the Blue Dogs are the Dems that Rahm Emanuel got elected (when he was in charge of the HRCC) by hoodwinking their districts that they were ‘conservative’.
    They do vote and will continue to vote the way Dear Leader Barry the Red and Kommisar Pelosibitch tell them to vote.

  • Scoot

    Here’s another example of a bill that HAS to get passed by a certain date. When are the American people going to realize that these bills that need to get passed so quickly are the bills that will enslave us even further than we already are?

    There’s no reason that a health care reform, or a new energy reform has to be implemented so quickly. This has nothing to do with the economy recovering, it has everything to do with controlling us.

  • Mike Mose

    Soros and Obama will do what they want. The Democratic Party of my father no longer exist. Pure communism is today’s rats. The last decent democrat was Zell Miller.

  • Tom in CO

    Maybe now people will pay attention since democrats are saying it…

  • Burlington

    With single payer (euphemism for socialized medicine) comes monopolistic control. Beware of ObamaCare.

    The demonstrators in the recent senate hearing that used Alinsky’s tactics were as I suspected from PNHP. This group was started by Dr Quentin Young, ( b. 1923) who is a friend of Obama and was in Bill Ayers’ home when Obama was selected to run for office. It also has been said that the strategic planning for the disruption of the 1968 Democrat convention in Chicago took place in his office. He is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. Now,if you can find any difference in the agendas of the DSA and CPUSA please point it out to me. I know that’s where Obama wants to go but will need infrastructure, at least initially.

    http://www.dsausa.org/NewsFromDSA/2009/index.html

    http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/13/

    Physicians for a National Health Program
    29 E Madison Suite 602, Chicago, IL 60602

  • http://www.acaiberryreview.org Burlington

    With single payer (euphemism for socialized medicine) comes monopolistic control. Beware of ObamaCare.

    The demonstrators in the recent senate hearing that used Alinsky’s tactics were as I suspected from PNHP. This group was started by Dr Quentin Young, ( b. 1923) who is a friend of Obama and was in Bill Ayers’ home when Obama was selected to run for office. It also has been said that the strategic planning for the disruption of the 1968 Democrat convention in Chicago took place in his office. He is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. Now,if you can find any difference in the agendas of the DSA and CPUSA please point it out to me. I know that’s where Obama wants to go but will need infrastructure, at least initially.

    http://www.dsausa.org/NewsFromDSA/2009/index.html

    http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/13/

    Physicians for a National Health Program
    29 E Madison Suite 602, Chicago, IL 60602
    Sorry… forgot to say great post – can’t wait to read your next one!

  • Bob

    When you or a loved one dies because of our 3rd world health system be sure to praise your insurance company. THEY CARE! You BETCHA!