Don’t Start Shit, Won’t Be Shit

May 15th, 2009 (9) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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The Washington Examiner:

Here’s why I don’t care that al-Qaeda operatives Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah were waterboarded after Sept. 11, 2001: I remember where I was the day before.

Every American who recalls that day can probably remember where he or she was when those jets hit the World Trade Center. I do too. But I remember where I was on Sept. 10, 2001, at about the same time.

In the lowest level of the World Trade Center, getting off a commuter train from Jersey City, N.J. I had an appointment in midtown-Manhattan and had to take a subway train from the WTC. Had I done that a day later, I’d have arrived at the WTC at just about the time the first or second jet hit.

But what if I had arrived maybe 15 minutes earlier and had some time to kill? What if I’d decided I wanted to go to the top of the WTC and take in the view?

Then I’d have been one of those people who were trapped above the inferno that raged below them, terrified, wondering how or if we could ever escape. I’d have experienced the terror they felt as the WTC Twin Towers collapsed beneath them and sent them to their horrible deaths.

And you sure as heck wouldn’t be reading this column. Yes, I came that close to perhaps being among the WTC casualties of Sept. 11.

So when President Obama declassified Justice Department memos that revealed the waterboarding of Mohammed and Zubaydah, perhaps you can forgive me if the knowledge didn’t exactly leave me prostrate with grief. Nor am I feeling the arguments of those
who claim how torture violates our principles and destroys our values.

Does it, really? We were in a war against terrorists. War is called war for a reason. It’s because nasty things get done in a war, lots of them. The Allies killed hundreds of thousands of German and Japanese civilians in bombing raids during World War II. Should we have NOT bombed Germany and Japan because killing civilians violates our principles and destroys our values?

Or does torture violate our principles and destroy our values while wholesale killing of civilians is acceptable?

Several books have hit the market in the last few years about the plight of German civilians during World War II. Some tell the story of their fate during the bombing raids. At least one claims that some two million German civilians died during the Allied occupation of Germany. And of course, for decades, we’ve had the handwringing and whining about what we did to the Japanese with the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

As for the latter event, it occurs to me that there were exactly 1,337 days from Dec. 8, 1941 up to Aug. 5, 1945 – the day before the bomb was dropped on Hiroshima. The Japanese government could have surrendered – and surrendered unconditionally – on any one of them.

As for the plight of the Germans, which applies to the Japanese as well, I invoke that great black American adage that goes like this:
Don’t start nothing, won’t be nothing.

That saying has been around Afro-Americana for decades. It basically means this: if you don’t want to suffer the consequences of starting some trouble, then don’t start any trouble.

Perhaps Obama, instead of piously intoning that America “does not torture,” should instead tell the world, specifically terrorists, that from now on the nation will invoke the great African-American Prime Directive of “Don’t start nothing, won’t be nothing.” Because once you start something, then anything goes.

So from now on, we won’t have to fret when guys like Mohammed and Zubaydah get waterboarded. After all, they would have been warned in advance. (And won’t someone point out that Mohammed and Zubaydah got off a lot easier than those poor souls trapped in the Twin Towers on Sept. 11, 2001?)

If we don’t want to go with the Great African-American Prime Directive, perhaps we can go with one less known. I can’t recall who said it or where I read it, but it goes something like this:

If it’s worth fighting for, it’s worth fighting dirty for.

Examiner columnist Gregory Kane is an award-winning journalist who lives in Baltimore.

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  • mike3481

    “Because once you start something, then anything goes”. – Gregory Kane.

    Goddamn right :!:

    :gun: :gun: :gun:

    • aboutTObegin

      war is fucking war, and you do what you have to to be the last man standing and that is why all libertards should move to france, cause they will never understand that! They are the reason why America is going down….well, not on our watch…this trend is now going to be turned around!

      -aTb

  • http://Hey serfer62

    I have always found it amusing to play by my opponents rules; ie if they hit below the belt then so do I. A terrorist has no rules so no rules apply.
    .
    This became an issue solely because the Kommiecrats under Speaker Palosi’s leadership condemned all and anything President Bush did or initated; ie restructure the failing Social Security and subprime mortage lending, the Iraqi War etc.
    .
    So now what seems like initation rites have become “torture” has come around and bite these scum in the ass…live with it azzhole, you created it.

    • BT

      Rules get you killed.

    • aboutTObegin

      tell that to the Americans that got their HEADS CUT OFF…. and waterboarding is torture? waste of life libertards! they are all a disgrace to those that have died for Freedom and America!

      -aTb

  • Bob

    Rules for war is an oxymoron.

    • politicalfish

      So is, ‘President Obama’.

  • Cridhe Saorsa

    Obama is what happens when lawyers try to get on the battlefield. Fact is there is an untold story in all wars since the begining of civilization. Some people are just to bad to let live and they just need to be killed whether they are armed or not.

  • aboutTObegin

    oshama (usurper) has declared war on America and its citizens by releasing sensitive information that places many lives at risk….although he cannot supply us with a $10 dollar document that proves he is eligible to be POTUS!

    -aTb