Has The Military Bitchslapped Obama Into Submission? – In Reversal, Kenyan Muslim Apologist To Restart George Bush’s Gitmo Tribunals

May 15th, 2009 (19) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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Earlier this week, after Obama, with a chastened but angry countenance, declared that he had changed his mind and would not release the so-called CIA torture photos, the question was raised, “Did the military leadership, including Odierno and Petraeus, threaten him with mass resignations if he did so? And now he’s backpedaling on the Gitmo trials, reinstating George Bush’s military tribunal policy.

Have we just witnessed a U.S. military policy coup?

Times Online:

Barack Obama is set to reverse the first formal decision of his presidency today with the expected announcement that his Administration will restart Bush-era military tribunals for Guantánamo Bay detainees.

While still on the campaign trail, Mr Obama denounced the military commission system as “flawed”. He suspended them within hours of his inauguration in January, pending a review of the alternatives, and promised to close the detention camp on Cuba.

His decision to restart the tribunals – albeit with must stronger legal safeguards for defendants – has prompted protests from human rights groups while showing how difficult it is for Mr Obama to break completely with the policies of his predecessor.

Administration officials confirmed yesterday that the new legal framework, to be used for the trials of only the most prominent a-Qaeda suspects now at Guantánamo Bay, would include restrictions on the use of hearsay evidence against detainees.

The revisions would also reportedly ban evidence obtained through coercion, such as waterboarding and other enhanced CIA interrogation techniques.

The move would affect, among others, five detainees charged with having played key roles in the attacks of September 11, 2001, including the plot’s self-proclaimed mastermind, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Republicans have fiercely assailed Mr Obama’s order to close Guantánamo Bay by late January next year, and Democrats have rejected a White House funding request to shutter the prison.

The camp, synonymous around the world with the excesses of Mr Bush’s “war on terror”, still holds 241 inmates from 30 different countries, according to the Pentagon.

For weeks, Republicans have attacked Mr Obama for ordering the facility’s closure and the suspension of military commissions, saying the President did not have a plan for what to do with the prisoners.

Senator John McCain, who spearheaded legislation creating the commissions, said such trials were the only adequate venue for trying suspected terrorists and that he was working with the White House on a way forward.

One Obama Administration official said that the President had consistently backed military commissions as an option to try detainees, but believed the version used by the Bush Administration did not have sufficient safeguards to ensure due process. That system only convicted three detainees in eight years.

Some rights groups have called on the Administration to prosecute al-Qaeda detainees in the regular US court system, but opponents have warned that evidence, possibly obtained under coercion, would not stand up. US Department of Justice memos released in April revealed that Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times in a single month.

“The Obama Administration shouldn’t tinker with a fundamentally flawed system,” said Stacy Sullivan, counter-terrorism adviser for Human Rights Watch (HRW). “Reviving the military commissions would strip much of the meaning from closing Guantánamo.”

Tom Parker of Amnesty International said the President would be making “a disastrous misstep” if he revived the commissions after blasting them as “an enormous failure” on the campaign trail last year.

Some of Mr Obama’s liberal backers have already registered outrage this week after the President decided to try to block the release of more photos of abuse of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan at US facilities, fearing they could expose American troops to reprisals abroad.

That decision, critics have argued, has thrown into question Mr Obama’s promised new era of transparency and respect for the rule of law.

David Axelrod, one of the President’s closest advisers, countered that Mr Obama’s “positions on transparency and public disclosure are strong and well known.

“But they’re not without limit,” he said.

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  • prestonbrooks

    :wink: Hmmm… looks like the Military (Oboy) and CIA (Piglosi) don’t like to be double-crossed.

  • mike3481

    “Have we just witnessed a U.S. military policy coup?”

    I dunno, but it seems there may be some actual adults in the White House who don’t want this country to go down in flames and whose voices are starting to get through to their leadership.

    Just a guess, cos who the hell knows what’s going on inside that Leftist coup occupying the White House?

    I hazard to guess darn near no one. :shock:

    • Jarhead68

      Nice theory but, when Axelrod makes insults Miss CA with a joke about the Obumble’s dog, you know that there are no adults in the administration, except maybe Panetta over at CIA. At least he had the guts to call Pelosi out. I hope that bitch gets thrown out on her ass.

  • checkers

    Maybe he somehow realized he really is the leader of the free world and stopped drinking the kool-aid.
    One could only hope and pray.
    Probably wishful thinking though.

    A thought….if anyone can teach BHO to buck up and save his countrymen, my money is on General David Petraeus..

    • aboutTObegin

      never in a million years…he has an agenda and is only buying time in order to accomlish his long term goals… the time is now to kick his usurper ass out!

      -aTb

  • politicalfish

    Its not enough for me, nothing less than a frog march out under the point of the bayonet for obongo and his band of marxist bushmen, and the whores that grovel at their feet.
    I want my country back, nothing less will do.

  • Medaton

    Some have missed what has actually happened. They did a poll and found that a majority of Americans did not want the pictures released. Obama wanted the pictures released because he needs to keep the uproar against the Bush administration alive. By allowing Australia to release the pictures, Obama can have the best of both worlds. He can say that he didn’t want the photos released but since they have been see how bad the policies of the Bush administration were. Now, he can continue to say how great he is and how different he will be when it comes to the rights of the Muslim terrorists.

    • American Woman

      The pictures will be released but obongo has to make it look like it was not him so afterwards he can say how ‘disappointed’ he is that they surfaced. Its all about his image and others doing the dirty work and taking the fall. Just like the flyby and the laughs at the media ball. The ACLU will press the issue and they will come out and he will say it was out of his hands.

      I have heard it might be a stradegy to let the dems crash and burn on there own account, give them enough rope and they will hang themselves drunk with power. Like children who have taken over the school eating candy for lunch.
      100plus days and look at them. The General will have to step in and give them an as whopin to set them straight because the GOP is to lame to do it themselves because they are afraid the media will tear them apart.
      If this is there stradegy it is starting to work. Get to the top guy by chipping away the people around him. Pelosi is an obvious first then Reid and on to Fwrank. Dodd has already been taken down and looks like he might not be returning next time around.
      The three stooges needs to be handcuffed and paraded down the streets for a good ol fashioned ass kicken.

  • http://patdollard.com Joe Average

    ALL
    YOU’RE RIGHT. I KNOW WHAT I WANT TO SAY, BUT I AM SAYING IT WRONG.

    What I think I am trying to say is that Somebody knows the truth and where the secrets are kept.

    Yes Mike, I understand your comment about FBI and NSA, etc. And I was not saying that I am going to do anything or try to hurt anyone or be a part of anything…I MYSELF HAVE NO VIOLENT INTENT TOWARDS OBAMA OR ANY OTHERS. I just think military should ARREST HIM, there is enough evidence of him not being a citizen for that.

    As for my tea party comments, Somewhere in the back of my mind is a movie scene that had George Wentz (from Cheers) leading a crowd to “find the answers” by opening the books at City Hall or Mayor’s Office to “shed light” on the truth.

    cRAP STIL can’t clear it

    • aboutTObegin

      lol, thanks for the laugh Joe…. :lol: I needed it with all the BS going on in the crapitol.

      -aTb

  • Evie

    It is about time SOMEONE bitch-slapped Obama…
    If anyone EVER needed a cold dose of reality, it is him….

  • Tom in CO

    Sorry to burst your bubble, hussein.

  • Slacks Out

    I bet those in the CIA and other Military positions told B-HO “If you try too F#$% us over we’ll let lose some ‘Place of birth’ info to the public on your ass.” Or something like that.

  • solomonpal

    Cool your jets Joe. :!: Just watch and keep your powder dry. These ass-hats are going down in flames on their own accord. I understand your righteous anger but they after 100 and some days are bleeding to death by cuts from a thousand wounds.Do the tea party thing and work tirelessly to make yours and others opinions known. There are millions of us just as disgusted with the state of current affairs but these clowns are coming apart at the seams and do not require any rash actions at this time.Doing something stupid will just gum up the works now and reflect poorly on the rest of us.There are plenty of other avenues that need to be exhausted first. :wink:

  • mike3481
  • Tim Roesch

    That’s my impression.

    I have always had the impression that this was an ambush.

    I think by not shooting up the place we’ve put ‘them’ off their game plan.

  • solomonpal

    Thanks…But I remember specifically hitting reply to Joe…I have no idea why it ended up on this post.

  • http://patdollard.com Joe Average

    hAVing lots of keyboard problems, with som things like cut & paste staying on all the time….so what is on clipboard is still there, even after rebooting.

    I almost feel like I must have Windows Vista instead of Windows XP.

  • mike3481

    I scan my hard drive for errors once every 10 days or so, and or when any program goes wonky/crashes, then everything is A-O.K.

    Seems to work and I go to places on the net where I sometimes doubt that they’ve ever heard of .com, .gov, .org.

    Anyways, left click “start”, L. click “My Computer”, Right click “hard drive(s)”, L.click “Properties”, L. click “Tools”, L. click “error checking”, click the two available boxes and L. click “start”. Then my rig schedules a disk check the next time I start it up. Then I shut it down and restart it. 90 minutes or so later all is good.

    I’m sure you knew this but I thought I’d pass it along anyways.

    :beer: