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Hastening The Fall Of Capitalism… Cloward/Piven Redux



May 29, 2009 27 Comments ›› Erik Wong

http://www.breitbart.com/

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The Cloward/Piven Strategy of Economic Recovery

Using borrowed money for a band-aid bailout of the economy should seem backwards to most people. However, it likely is a planned strategy to promote radical change. Those naively believing that President Obama is simply rewarding his far-left base, and will then move to the political center, must wise up.

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  • Johnny Doe

    Barack Obama is a communist revolutionary. If you don’t know him by now, then you will never, ever, ever know him.

    The problem with Beck and the rest is that they don’t express any real, genuine, palpable anger over what’s happening to this country and our freedom. An exception is Mark Levin. But that’s part of his schtick. He freaks out if he can’t find a donut shop that’s open at 23:00 for crying out loud.

    These guys are part of the problem. People watch and listen to this stuff and they think it’ll somehow magically get taken care of. Not gonna happen.

    • DesignR

      Yes.

      Savage calls it like it is and earlier nearly called for action. He has now backed away from that stance and laughs at those that would rise up. He has been burned and does not like the stove.

      Rush Limbaugh has been at the front line for 20 years. I forgive him this sin because he is our educator, our steadfast voice of reason and true conservatism.

      He is stepping out pretty hard these days and is directly in their cross-hairs every night in the news. He called Soto a racist. That’s up to speed for me.

      Any farther to the right, he’ll be in prison or dead. His only protection at this time is his popularity with the people. His death would cause too much support against Obama. He is in my prayers.

      Johnny, you are right. Nothing will happen unless WE do it. That’s why we are in ACCDF. That’s why the readers of this blog need to join ACCDF as well.

      http://accdf.com

    • SgtJenz

      Traveling around various places, talking to people, handing out ACTIVE flyer’s, I get a sense of fear mixed with a certain odd complacency. I see anger when there should be outrage, I see confusion when there should be focus.
      Most disturbing is that I see a loss of hope and resolve. People find it easier to give up or give in, play along to get along.
      There is little or no urgency to do what needs to be done.

      The left mocks us laughing that they have the power now and their visions of utopia are within grasp but all I see are dead cities, soon to be smoldering ruins of a 3rd world country. The left blames us, Bush, Rush, whoever fits into their sick narcissistic world. Anything as long it makes them out to be the saviors of man…the cheese dick heroes in their fantasies… I see them as worthless human garbage.

      We are the few, the remnant, some of us perhaps unwilling warriors filled with a bitter resolve, determined to do what needs to be done even if it means our deaths. Some of us can smell what lies ahead, having been there once before, most of us can certainly see it, and all of us realize nothing is going to change unless we…WE do something to stop the rapid surge of Marxism taking place before our very eyes.

      If you haven’t joined ACTIVE I can only ask what’s stopping you.

  • Xavier

    If all the rich people leave (and they will, in droves) what wealth will the pres. share with “the poor”?

    There will be no wealth to share and then you will have a country in anarchy full of people fighting for hand outs instead of earning their living.

  • Bob USMC

    And just wait until Obama’s inflation hits, if this is even remotely true, this country is phukked.

    http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aIeLg1djbBps&refer=home

  • Tim Roesch

    I have always wondered how this guy from nowhere got to be President, now I know, I think.

    What should be apparent from this is that Barrack Obama is a puppet. Attacking him will do nothing to stop the puppetmaster and, in fact, attacking the puppet might exactly what the puppetmaster wants.

    A question to be asking (I wish I had Beck’s or Limbaugh’s audience or at least their ear) is ‘Why is there still poverty and inequality and racism after all the money and time put into erradicating it?’

    I wonder if this would be the wake up call question, to get people to really think about this. It might wipe away the dust and haze of ‘conspiracy theory’ and ‘it can’t happen here’ mania.

    So, how do you tip the balance without losing the country? That is the question I ask everytime I read one of Griz’s posts or listen to Limbaugh.

    I am thinking that the puppetmasters want there to be rioting and looting and killing because, as that line goes (from the movie I forgot or maybe it was a comedy routine), I like fights because of all the loose change.

    What if the puppetmasters want there to be a ‘war’ so they can pick up the pieces?

    Again, I know, I know, I am pussy for thinking about it. I should be gung ho and into the breech boys…

    But without an exit strategy, a post game plan, we are sitting ducks. It won’t matter if we’re dead or the enemy is dead, if we are too weak after the battle we are simply change to be collected.

    How do we throw out the bathwater without tossing the baby too?

    • YERMOM

      asking the question doesnt make you a pussy

    • Fred

      We have a pretty good idea of who most of the puppetmasters are. Put sniper teams on the task of removing them. Problem solved. Use a very powerful rifle that will do to a human skull what it does to watermellons. For effect.

      If they are visiting violence upon us, our nation, and its foundational documents, then we need to visit extreme violence on them at some point. No mercy whatsoever to be shown to this enemy.

    • DesignR

      We “think” we know who the puppet-masters are.

      They better KNOW ALL of the names! They can’t afford to let even one of the cockroaches get away.

    • SgtJenz

      We must have clarity Tim. Being “gung ho and into the breech” has it’s moments but it would be foolish to do at this point. We would play right into their hands and be easily defeated.

      You make worthy points to ponder. Passion with clarity, realizing our urgency must come with intelligent thinking and realistic planning.
      There are too few of us to overwhelm them. We must outsmart them at their own game.
      Individuals or small groups going off to lay waste to a perceived enemy only reduces our ranks and depletes valuable talent, doing little damage to the enemy.

      Me must have the determination to defeat them along with the means and the organization to do that.

      What motivates men to defeat an enemy in battle is anger. We have that anger. And we must also have the means to do it effectively.

      ~Sun Tzu~ There are 5 factors from which victory will be known:
      1.) One who knows when to fight and when he cannot will be victorious.
      2.) One who recognizes how to employ large and small numbers will be victorious.
      3.) One whose upper and lower ranks have the same desires will be victorious.
      4.) One who, fully prepared, awaits the unprepared will be victorious.
      5.) One whose general is capable and not interfered with by the “ruler” will be victorious.
      These are the 5 Tao of victory.

  • Phil Byler

    The problem is that people do not yet believe that Obama is the radical socialist he is. Once people do understand, then it will be a completely different political ballgame.

  • Tim Roesch

    They aren’t stupid so why do they appear to be acting stupid?
    The file type mismatch is the military and the armed citizenry. How is the puppetmaster to deal with these pieces of the puzzle?
    Okay, the Obama piece is in play. Nothing seems to be worrying the Obama plan. So, they must have a timetable that is humming along and all the tea parties and 10th amendment thingees and Limbaugh can bust an artery for all they seem to care (MSM excepted)and nothing seems to be causing too much distress in the White House so there is hope (on their part) that the other shoe will drop soon.
    What shoe?
    Obama’s Puppetmaster asks:
    How do you destroy the US economy and rebuild it in the a socialist model with the 101st airborne packing ‘chutes or SEALs sitting behind Barrets?
    How about this domino effect?
    1) Simultaneous riots in CONUS and attacks on military overseas. Where is the military? Deep in enemy territory. Move some more brigades to the ‘stan. Get the bulk of the US uniformed force in country (out of CONUS).
    2) Who to do your bidding? Maybe the next puppet to come on stage is an Islamic puppet (of course, this puppet might turn on its master but that is up in the air right now). What better crisis then a simultaneous right wing nut case insurgency, blunted by a ‘lawful’ uprising of National Guard, police and ‘civilian units’, declaration of National Emergency (remember that trump card?) followed by a HARD hit of the military (What percentage of American military is overseas? Exactly how much of the Navy and or Air Force would you have to ‘put down’ to strand the Infantry overseas?) with an Islamic nuclear chaser?
    3) Game over.

    We need to assault the puppet masters. Obama is not the puppetmaster. The question is, does Obama know he is not the puppetmaster and is he willing to be sacrificed if he does know?

    Question? What would it take for a full mobilization of the US Military to the ‘Arabic’ world? A nuke strike on Kandahar? Once over seas, what would keep them there? EMP strike that grounds X% of the heavy lift USAF capacity? Where are our troop transports (USN)?

    I think Obama’s puppetmaster thinks he(she) has all the cards they need in the Middle East and it’s only a matter of which to play or allowed to be played first (Iran/Israel? Iran/Iraq? N. Korea/Iran? Pakistan/Taliban? Afghanistan/Taliban? Sunni/Shia?) and troops are sent overseas, leaving America exposed (escept for thos clingers to guns and bibles).

    Thoughts? Anyone want to ‘firm up’ my assessment?

    • Johnny Doe

      You are wise to consider contingencies.

      Barack Obama does not have one puppetmaster. He is serving the agenda of international socialism. There are a great many very powerful people involved in the collectivizing drive.

      My opinion is that it is impossible to know just what form the gathering storm will take. The only things that I would personally be willing to state definitively is that the storm is coming; it will shake America to the core, and prepared American citizens will play a decisive role in the outcome. I don’t mean to be vague. I believe war gaming the scenarios to be largely futile.

      Much of your insight is quite cogent.

      I suggest becoming ACTIVE, if you are not already.

    • DesignR

      Sounds like a very real scenario.

      There are many puppet-masters, like Johnny says.

      Bilderberg? Others? If we could find out who is sending texts to that blackberry we would have a clue to the closest ties, the Mr. Big.

      I’m sure Soro’s is in the mix, but who else? If Soros falls out of a window, or gets a bad shrimp, one evening I’m sure there are many lieutenants’ or an even bigger Mr. Big ready to pick up the baton.

      Is it an old Russian KGB plan working it’s way to the surface after a quarter century? Is it American Academics sitting in Universities all over America/Europe?
      Plain old American Gangsters smart enough to have stayed under the radar until now?
      Where are our secret Alphabet Soup warriors in all of this? Are they behind it?

      What ever group is responsible for Obama being in the White House, they have been around for a very long time and have many tendrils ready to take over if one is chopped off.

  • Bob

    Hey Tim,

    I have had the same thoughts concerning our troops overseas. If they are there then they can’t be here if we need them. As for the puppetmaster, we only need look in the mirror. What I mean by that is that none of the shit we have been experiencing in this country, as well as other countries, over the past 100 years or so would have been possible without our collective cooperation. We bitch about trial lawyers but they could not survive without clients.We turned away when liberals were destroying the black families with welfare and condescending talk about government help, now they are perceived as our enemies because that’s what the liberal media has been directed to do.Why did we let this work so effectively? Now this same destruction is working on white families and we are all of a sudden aware of the problem? We complain of the widespread corruption in our society while we boast of the many times we have gotten over on someone. We deplore the perversion of Hollywood while watching porn on the internet. We complain of a God-less society while gossiping about our neighbors after church. This is happening to our country because we have let it happen with our actions, or inaction. I don’t mean to be preachy but if I am honest with myself I know I have also played a role in the destruction of the greatness of our country, and that I have not been alone. We can fix this, but it must start with our own behavior and actions towards our fellow man. For those who are truly without any redeemable value though, we must face them with a clear conscience first then and only then can we act without doubt. It is this doubt that keeps us from fighting back now is it not?

    • Johnny Doe

      Very well said.

      “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

    • DesignR

      Amen.

    • Tim Roesch

      Bob, if you are right then it is possible there is no puppetmaster, that Obama is just the right(wrong) guy at the right(wrong) time. He is the cherry atop the perfect political storm.

      If that is the case, erasing him will be far easier than if this was a well thought out plan/conspiracy.

      I think the intellectual exercise is important because it provides avenues to predicting (and ambushing) enemy movements.

      What Afghanistan and Iraq has done is create tens of thousands of combat ready troops who are going to become civilians. You can’t be hoping to take over the country without considering them in your plan unless you’re plain stupid or have something for their combat ready asses.

      I would like to know what that is.

  • http://www.jihadwatch.org LCpl. Alexander

    Regroup in Texas and Alaska, make sure we control the oil when we leave.

  • Medaton

    Reading the comments following this American Thinker article was almost as illuminating as the article itself.

  • prestonbrooks

    :neutral: Everyone had beter start thinking about rebuilding their states. The US, as you knew it, is gone. It will not be coming back. There will have to be grouping of people in certain areas or states which will be armed to the teeth and exist within their own spheres of influence– like the old Confederacy. Independent soverign territories. What Oboy has started cannot be reversed. Russia has never returned to its czarist roots. Something new was created by the bolsheviks, now they are gone. The same will happen here. Keep yer powder dry and hidden, men.

    • DesignR

      prestonbrooks, you are the man:

      “Russia has never returned to its czarist roots.”

      Brilliant, excellent prognostication with past as prologue.

      OK.
      So we might end up as 50 independent states, or whatever, with no army, no air force, and no navy.

      That said we would be easy picking’s for whatever any International body wants. Expect foreign rulers with armed tanks, jets, and war ships to take territory that is poorly defended.

      We will stand around with knives, pitch forks, shotguns, rifles, a couple of 50 Cal.’s, Off-Road trucks, Bass boats and some Cessna 172’s. Can you Texans steal a couple of those US nukes in your area? We might need a bunch of those.

      I make light, only because I feel so overwhelmed. Guerrilla warfare with the crudest of weapons has proven to be tough on the best Armies in the World. So, there is hope. But, for my families sake, how is this all going to end? (rhetorical question)

  • Bob

    Tim,

    Don’t misunderstand me there are people who plan and conspire to control others, history is full of them. My point was that these “Puppetmasters” as you call them cannot accomplish a thing without the cooperation of the people. It is ultimately the people’s behavior that dictates the behavior of their leaders. We all know that today’s politician would not have stood a chance with the American populace of 200 years ago, why is that? What has changed? Our constitution was influenced greatly by the Bible, and particularly the Old Testament. The people who lived at the time of our founding were very religious, and for the most part practiced what they preached. Of course there is no way to turn this country around overnight, but we can turn our own lives around and try to live a righteous life in the mean time. As for president Yomama, there are plenty of people who disagree strongly with this usurper, and they are in close proximity to him every day. It would not take much to put him out of service, but these people, for reasons of their own, do not realize that the opportunity to alter history is in their hands. As for our armed forces and what they might do in the times ahead should we have another civil war, well I would not count on a majority of them to be sympathetic to our way of thinking. If you need proof of this then read about what happened to the WWI veterans when they protested in Washington after the war was over. You will be very surprised by the names of those who were in charge of dispersing those veterans with force. Today they are considered hero’s by almost everyone. For a more recent example read about what happened in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina struck, and the gun confiscations. In the mean time, I will continue to stock-up on ammo and make what preparations I can, and try to organize with like minded people for the purposes of surviving. I will also pray that God has not decided that we have screwed up so badly that we need to be taught a lesson.

    • Johnny Doe

      Survival is not enough. If you wish to be free, to secure the blessings of liberty for yourself and for posterity, get in the game. Get ACTIVE and get some. It seems you have adopted a similar attitude to the one you are decrying. We still have a chance to turn the Titanic around. We need all hands on deck. Get on board.

  • Bob

    I am in the game and have been for 30 years. I am also ACTIVE and understand that there are many ways to “Get some”. Yes we can turn things around, but it will not happen overnight, as it took many decades to get into this mess.

    • Johnny Doe

      My intention was not to berate you. Of course this won’t be over in the blink of an eye. I took your comment to mean that you intend to sit it out and wait for the storm to break. I’m glad to hear you’re ACTIVE. Welcome aboard.

  • prestonbrooks

    :neutral: Well, if you look at Hitler, Mussolini, etc., they had big money backers– same cartel families as today– but they failed. The Cartel is by no means omnipotent, but I am afraid the damage is done. It does not mean the End Game will work out to their favor. All Americans have a chance, but we will probably be reduced in power as a nation; Balkanized might be a better word. However, the coming Confederacies need not fail. They can succeed. :wink: