“Scientists Unveil Missing Link In Evolution” – WITH PHOTOS AND VIDEOS- “Finally Confirms Darwin’s Theory Of Evolution”

May 19th, 2009 (87) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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“Sir David Attenborough said “Now it is no longer missing” and Darwin “would have been thrilled” to have seen the fossil – and says it tells us who we are and where we came from.”

Sky News:

Scientists have unveiled a 47-million-year-old fossilised skeleton of a monkey hailed as the missing link in human evolution.

The search for a direct connection between humans and the rest of the animal kingdom has taken 200 years – but it was presented to the world today at a special news conference in New York.

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The discovery of the 95%-complete ‘lemur monkey’ – dubbed Ida – is described by experts as the “eighth wonder of the world”.

They say its impact on the world of palaeontology will be “somewhat like an asteroid falling down to Earth”.
Researchers say proof of this transitional species finally confirms Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution, and the then radical, outlandish ideas he came up with during his time aboard the Beagle.

Sir David Attenborough said Darwin “would have been thrilled” to have seen the fossil – and says it tells us who we are and where we came from.

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Wall Street Journal:

In what could prove to be a landmark discovery, a leading paleontologist said scientists have dug up the 47 million-year-old fossil of an ancient primate whose features suggest it could be the common ancestor of all later monkeys, apes and humans.

Anthropologists have long believed that humans evolved from ancient ape-like ancestors. Some 50 million years ago, two ape-like groups walked the Earth. One is known as the tarsidae, a precursor of the tarsier, a tiny, large-eyed creature that lives in Asia. Another group is known as the adapidae, a precursor of today’s lemurs in Madagascar.

Based on previously limited fossil evidence, one big debate had been whether the tarsidae or adapidae group gave rise to monkeys, apes and humans. The latest discovery bolsters the less common position that our ancient ape-like ancestor was an adapid, the believed precursor of lemurs.

Philip Gingerich, president-elect of the Paleontological Society in the U.S., has co-written a paper that will detail next week the latest fossil discovery in Public Library of Science, a peer-reviewed, online journal.

“This discovery brings a forgotten group into focus as a possible ancestor of higher primates,” Mr. Gingerich, a professor of paleontology at the University of Michigan, said in an interview.

The discovery has little bearing on a separate paleontological debate centering on the identity of a common ancestor of chimps and humans, which could have lived about six million years ago and still hasn’t been found. That gap in the evolution story is colloquially referred to as the “missing link” controversy. In reality, though, all gaps in the fossil record are technically “missing links” until filled in, and many scientists say the term is meaningless.

Nonetheless, the latest fossil find is likely to ignite further the debate between evolutionists who draw conclusions based on a limited fossil record, and creationists who don’t believe that humans, monkeys and apes evolved from a common ancestor.

Scientists won’t necessarily agree about the details either. “Lemur advocates will be delighted, but tarsier advocates will be underwhelmed” by the new evidence, says Tim White, a paleontologist at the University of California, Berkeley. “The debate will persist.”

The skeleton will be unveiled at New York City’s American Museum of Natural History next Tuesday by Mayor Michael Bloomberg and an international team involved in the discovery.

According to Prof. Gingerich, the fossilized remains are of a young female adapid. The skeleton was unearthed by collectors about two years ago and has been kept tightly under wraps since then, in an unusual feat of scientific secrecy.

Prof. Gingerich said he had twice examined the adapid skeleton, which was “a complete, spectacular fossil.” The completeness of the preserved skeleton is crucial, because most previously found fossils of ancient primates were small finds, such as teeth and jawbones.

It was found in the Messel Shale Pit, a disused quarry near Frankfurt, Germany. The pit has long been a World Heritage Site and is the source of a number of well-preserved fossils from the middle Eocene epoch, some 50 million years ago.

Prof. Gingerich said several scientists, including Jorn Hurum of Norway’s National History Museum, had inspected the fossil with computer tomography scanning, a sophisticated X-ray technique that can provide detailed, cross-sectional views. Dr. Hurum declined to comment.

Although the creature looks like a lemur, there are some distinctive physical differences. Lemurs have a tooth comb (a tooth modified to help groom fur); a grooming claw; and a wet nose. Dr. Gingerich said that the adapid skeleton has neither a grooming claw nor a tooth comb. “We can’t say whether it had a wet nose or not,” he noted.

Since the fossilized creature found in Germany didn’t have features like a tooth comb or grooming claw, it could be argued that it gave rise to monkeys, apes and humans, which don’t have these features either.

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  • MinneSoCold

    Video footage of missing link….
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OpuuAa7gdE

  • YERMOM

    Mrs. Obama really hates that dead dinosaur….

  • prestonbrooks

    :cool: It might be the Down-Low in Chief’s ancestor, but not mine. :smile:

    • SgtJenz

      This would explain precisely what the differences between leftists and conservatives are.
      Leftists are related to apes, of that I have NO doubts.

    • sassysuz

      all this while I thought leftists were just mentally ill

    • SgtJenz

      Mentally ill yes and caused by a decidedly corrupted gene pool that is missing a few…er…links in the DNA thread.

  • Jerb

    “Anthropologists have long believed that humans evolved from ancient ape-like ancestors.”

    I thought evolution was science? How can they believe humans evolved from monkeys? I thought science was based on facts and evidence, not beliefs…

    And how come there is only 1 “missing link”? Shouldn’t there be a lot more? And where are the evolutionary failures that happened before we came around? I mean, other than the French. Oh snap!

    • raton

      you forgot that WE are the true missing link LMAO
      and that YOU are the degenerate offsprings of our scum that our kings expelled :mrgreen:

    • IRONMIKE

      Better to be degenerate scum than french.

    • raton

      uh ? you may disappear while we are the remnent link :roll:

    • IRONMIKE

      Uh, doubt it.

    • SgtJenz

      raton…descended from a damaged gene pool in the rat family of rodents.

      You are the missing link alright…missing being the key word here.

    • That one dude

      they believe because it’s information that has formed a theory. we did not create science, so we have to believe that these things happen before we can actually see it happen or we make it happen through the science we can create. It’s not a fact, yet.

  • SgtJenz
    • Specter

      Kind of ironic isn’t it, the first major scientific announcement in the usurpers admin deal with evolution vs creation debate.

      I’m not surprised.

  • JayMS

    Oh so NOW scientists have found the missing link? What happened to all the other missing links? :roll: I recall at least two previous ones that were announced with much fanfare then quietly went away.

  • GRIZZ

    I just dug up what appears to be a cat turd in my garden.I believe this could be attenasshats mother

    • SgtJenz

      LMAO! :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

  • Phil Byler

    This is not so much science as a lot of guesswork and hopeful believing by people who are anxious to find support for macro-evolutionary theory.

  • Specter

    This is the shit that happens when you convince people that there can be a consenses in science.

    Utter bullshit

  • DesignR

    Darwin’s book was called “The origin of species”, not “The origin of man”.

    Origin, the BEGINNING of species.

    One monkey’s ankle bone is not going to explain how life began from a rock. Somehow a collection of chemicals, from the periodic chart, with a spark from lightning, created a something that evolved into DNA!

    Yes, evolution takes place, within species. This explains all of the variations of dogs from a single animal, the Wolf, through selective breeding.

    But they can not explain different species, in general. That is why they think they have such a find here. An ankle bone only humans have is found in an ancient monkey, and that explains EVERYTHING.

    I don’t think so.

    It’s all smoke and mirrors from these guys because they can’t explain life and how it actually began.

    Evolution is a religion. Like ours, it takes faith to believe what they believe in.

    There is something called “Irreducible complexity”.
    The term “irreducible complexity” was introduced by biochemist Michael Behe in his 1996 book Darwin’s Black Box.

    “a single system which is composed of several well-matched interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning”.

    There is a designer of life and its systems.
    In my religion it is the Christian God.

    I am thankful to my God for every day that I have on this earth, no matter how he made me.

    • Phil Byler

      DesignR, I concur entirely.

      Everyone should become acquainted with Michael Behe’s “Darwin’s Black Box.”

  • Calbeachlady

    There is more proof there is God than a monkey’s foot there is not. So, people will deny that the universes are, from an intelligent design, YET agree that we all are related to Lemurs??????? DENIAL :!: :lol:

    • Rick Honcho

      Proof there is God? Really??? :???: …where?

    • Ernest T. Bass

      ask that again 100 years from now…I dare you..

  • AZ Patriot (Μολὼν λαβέ)

    And for like the umteenth time they proclaim they have found the missing link. I think the only real missing link is the one between their ears! :mrgreen:

  • steve m

    Ummm, Yeeeahh right…

    :arrow: SgtJenz :beer:

    Just like global warming, always saying the case is closed, no more debate needed………and yet the debate persists because the evidence is not definitive, nor will it ever be.

    “Two of the “Universal Laws” that we see demonstrated in everything we examine in the world around us.

    A. There is no new mass/energy coming into existence anywhere in the universe, and every bit of that original mass/energy is still here.

    B. Every time something happens (an event takes place), some of the energy becomes unavailable.

    The First Law tells us that matter (mass/energy) can be changed, but can neither be created nor destroyed. The Second Law tells us that all phenomena (mass/energy) continually proceed to lower levels of usefulness.

    simply put, every cause must be at least as great as the effect that it produces—and will, in reality, produce an effect that is less than the cause. That is, any effect must have a greater cause.

    When this universal law is traced backwards, one is faced again with the possibility that there is an ongoing chain of ever-decreasing effects, resulting from an infinite chain of nonprimary ever-increasing causes. However, what appears more probable is the existence of an uncaused Source, an omnipotent, omniscient, eternal, and Primary, First Cause.”

  • Ty520

    This is proving to be a dangerous article for this blog (and, presumably, many other conservative blogs)

    The responses are exposing a very dangerous and disheartening urge by many conservatives to consciously express and institutionalize an extreme disassociation to anything that might also be upheld by leftists – in this case, science. Many of the responses I have read are portraying conservatives as a bunch of knuckle-dragging, anti-science, bible-thumping backwoods hicks.

    Even worse, the responses by supposed Christians are some of most arrogant and spiteful dialogues I have seen in some time.

    This should not even be a political issue

    If conservatives continue to refuse to acknowledge objective reasoning out of pure spite of the left, we will have written our own demise – continue on this path, and it will not be long before a particular religion is institutionalized, followed by specific sects within a specific faith, and, finally, the institutionalized destruction of anything that might contradict said theocracy (akin to the Islamic fundamentalists we are fighting).

    • DesignR

      The only danger is in NOT discussing it.

      And that is what the left wants.

      They want to shut down debate. It is getting to be a real problem for them. Soon, science will be painted with a broad brush as anti-religion, political, hacks and nothing more. And that will be a crying shame!

      As a Christian, I do not think my beliefs need to be etched in stone as the only one in the public education system.

      But, I do stand firmly upon my rights to my religion, and the public education system is trying to disregard and even lie about intelligent design and other thought provoking political things.

      Millions believe in the Judeo-Christian Biblical record (Including our Jihadi cousins). In the mean time Science is creating their own bible. Much of science is solid fact. I revere science in its role as protector, teacher and enlightening agent.

      But, the study of evolution and Darwin’s theories are FAR, FAR, FAR from certain and are truly closer to a religion than actual science.

      I love science. I am a science junky! We need to discuss, to fight and disagree on a whole spectrum of ideas. That is what makes us human.

      But, when debate is shut down, as in this case, with the monkey fossil, I call ‘Bullshit’!

    • Phil Byler

      No one is denying objective reasoning and science by rejecting Darwinian macro-evolutionary theory. To the contrary, what proponents of intelligent design are saying is that intelligent design better explains the data than Darwinian macro-evolution.

      I suggest spending some time reading what may be considered politically incorrect works such as Behe’s “Darwin’s Black Box.” What you may learn is that Darwin’s 19th century “science” does not work given what we have learned about, for example, the incredible complexity of the cell. True science would seek to go beyond Darwin; the trouble is that Darwinism has become a form of religion irrationally lashing out at critics.

      There is a reason for that: contrary to what Darwin may well have agreed with, Darwinism bacame part and parcel of a materialist worldview that denies God.

    • Tyler

      It IS a fact that evolution occurs (defined as: a process that results in heritable changes in a population spread over a period of generations) – the remaining theory is, how. It is counter-productive to proclaim that an archaic book written 2000 years ago more aptly expalains our existence than an ever-evolving contemporary scientific theory (mind the pun) [ps gravity remains a scientific theory, as well - are you going to argue against it?] – simply passing off all unexplained phenomena to an omniscient, omnipotent deity is a cop-out. Amino acids and RNA can be produced in labs with the most basic natural building blocks. Cosmic microwave background radiation further verifies the notion of the “big bang” theory. People who shall remain un-named keep throwing out Intelligent Design (AKA Creationism)talking points based on pseudo-science, absent of any objective reasoning, and a retardation of true science, e.g. the inproper use of the laws of thermodynamics. Also, using the “violation of my rights” argument is silly, and akin to the crap leftists use. Passing off the countless examples of evolution in order to deny its scientific value is also, simply put, bullshit.

    • Tyler

      Second note – continuing to argue the “godlessness” of evolution will not grant you a legal or political leg to stand on.

      Also, utilizing the, “they’re just trying to shut down debate” argument is also bullshit, commonly used by 9/11 Troofers and other hacks who dont have an objective, rational argument.

      The use of the term, “Darwinism” is rather preposterous, as well, and is an attempt to deny contemporary scientific research by limiting it evolution to its earliest schematic observances

  • Professor Bill

    The history of evolutionary biology and anthropology is filled with moments like this. Just a few years ago a fossil was discovered in China that was heralded to be the link between reptiles and birds. It made the front page of the propaganda magazine called National Geographic. However a few short months later it was discovered to be a fraud. Regarding ape like creatures, all of the supposed missing links have either been disproven or disappeared yet it is proclaimed as fact in school. Even phony science like vestigal gill slits in embryo development is still proclaimed as fact even though it to was shown to be false.

    Evolution is a myth and a religion as is the comic book science called the big bang theory. It defies all the laws of thermodynamics, physics and chemistry. Unfortunately the average person is unaware of just how devoid of facts and good science neo-Darwinian evolution and big bang cosmology is.

  • usmctanks

    Another attempt to brainwash the general ZOMBIE like public. “AHHHHH IT MUST BE TRUE….THE SCIENTIST SAY SO…AHHH..(drooling and farting noises)….”

    A few days ago I was worried that if things progressed to far we would be unable to recover. That far to many changes will have been made to reverse.
    But a friend reminded me that 80 million folks in this country are gun owners(at last count). And if only 10% think like we do and if we could somehow organize 5% of those we would have a group of 4 MILLION ARMED AMERICANS…..this gives me HOPE for CHANGE. Hang in there! There is a movement a foot!

  • Armando Garcia

    Global warning is dead
    evolution is dead
    atheism is dead
    free our children from public schools
    childless liberal grad school teachers have been destroying every child in America for decades

  • usmctanks

    Evolution……within species yes….we’ve all seen this. I ask you this…Can a single cell organism turn in to a man (not even considering how the organism came to be)? That is the question. Evolutionist’s say yes it can and it has. So does this mean that if I throw 2500 pounds of iron ore into my garage and close the door, that a few million years later when my ancestors open said door that a BMW might be sitting there? What are the possibilities…
    Now consider how much more complex the human body is than even the most advanced vehicle. And all this happened by chance ?????
    Keep dreaming…. I for one know the LORD and hence where I came from!

  • BTjoe112

    Didn’t Darwin change his mind later into his life? I remember reading something about that.
    Also if we came from apes, Why are there now both humans and apes but no in between’s?.(sorry Patrick Ewing you don’t count)

    • USNA1985

      My question exactly, furthermore, why are there still monkeys/apes at all? They never seem to answer that one either. But then again, I’m still waiting for the answer on the melting of the ice caps on Mars.

    • CPLViper

      :arrow: USNA1985

      It must have been those rovers we sent to Mars that expelled a bunch of C02 from their combustion engines. Yeah, the pictures were of solar powered, robotic rovers … but … we really sent up big V8 Range Rovers.

    • http://krigtheviking.blogspot.com Krig

      There’s an urban legend that Darwin recanted on his deathbed, but it’s not true. He believed his crazy theory right up to the end.

    • mfeen

      I remember first time I saw Patrick Ewing swinging on a rim. I thought this guy is going to cause a major evolutionary debate one day in the future if a scientist happens to dig up his scull. Not quite homo sapien, not neanderthal….

  • bill-tb

    Yep, why didn’t all the monkeys switch. Look how much better off they would be …

  • Xcrypto

    Man made global warming, the Piltdown Man, Big Foot, Elvis sightings and now this. Humans are such a gullible breed. Did you know the earth was the center of the universe, and all the planets revolve around it? Use to be flat too!

    • Indy

      Haven’t you heard? A socialist was executed, and his zombie corpse fled its tomb. Now, some sects of the zombie’s followers engage in symbolic cannibalism, and if you don’t, you’ll be tortured for eternity.

    • amy

      :arrow: Indy, Please explain.

    • Sixchuter

      “Use to be flat too!” :roll: This crap again?

      Isaiah 40:22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth…

      “To know the mighty works of God; to comprehend His wisdom and majesty and power; to appreciate, in degree, the wonderful working of His laws, surely all this must be a pleasing and acceptable mode of worship to the Most High to whom ignorance can not be more grateful than knowledge.”
      -Nicolaus Copernicus

      Educate yourself.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

  • prestonbrooks

    :lol: What a joke. Looks like a squirrel’s skeleton. This needs to be in a freakshow at the county fair. Somebody must be in need of grant money.

  • solomonpal

    I built a retaining wall from rocks that were gathered from everywhere. I matched all the sides so that all the surfaces matched and formed a contiguous pattern….Did that wall evolve? Or did I fit it together and build it?There were times that it was hard to find a match and sometimes it was not an exact fit but it worked. Was that a missing link?

    • DesignR

      :beer:

  • Specter

    So we have the science to claim this is the missing link but we don’t have the science to determine if this thing had a wet nose?

    Once again a your going to see science stuffed down the laymens throats using the term consenses.

  • IRONMIKE

    The real missing link is common sense.

    • Specter

      :beer: :beer: :beer:

  • Specter

    I think their trying to turn our attention from cap and trade as it gets fast tracked thru congress.

  • http://osmoothie.com sam, LA

    I don’t understand why God and evolution can’t be one and the same

    This find may not be as big as they make it out to be, but I am all for the study of the mystery that is life

    You can be moral and have a respect for the beauty of existence — call it God or whatever you like; but dwelling on the idea that that the earth was created in 7 days and all that other fiction that can be found in the bible is just a distraction from the true beauty that exists around us

    Life appears to have arisen from an intricate result of systems and reactions – this does not mean that it wasn’t God, in fact I call it God. I can appreciate the efforts of scientists to try and learn more about this amazingly complex and fascinating world.

    I have no qualms against people who wish to practice a peaceful religion and use it as a moral backbone, but i recognize that religion is not necessary to being moral and can be a distraction or even a danger when the religion is violent

    Do not get too caught up in miracles and lore; true conservatism is not a religion or an idea – it is a truth and should always remain that way

    Scientists can be as wrong or misleading as anyone else, but do not close your mind to science and evidence because of religion

    • DesignR

      :arrow: sam, LA

      In fact, we are glorifying TRUE SCIENCE.

      Evolutionary Science left the actual ‘Science’ part behind in the 1800′s with Darwin’s ideas. I think you have some preconceptions of Christians and ‘intelligent design theorist’s’ that are from the same era.

      We have all moved way beyond this.

      True Science allows for open discussion from ALL rigorous scientific angles. It should not be afraid of ideas from anywhere. Intelligent Design has some rock solid arguments that the evolutionists will not even discuss. As a lover of science, I would think you would enjoy a good scientific read:

      Biochemist Michael Behe’s 1996 book “Darwin’s Black Box”.

      Also, many astrophysicists’ are also asking questions about intelligent design from their own perspective as life-long, dyed-in-the-wool, “Scientists”.

    • steve m

      But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 2 Peter 3:8

      For a thousand years in your sight
      are like a day that has just gone by,
      or like a watch in the night.

      Psalm 90:4

      “Vocatus atque non vocatus, deus aderit.” Carl Jung

    • IRONMIKE

      Steve, the way I have heard that verse explained is in context with the whole of scripture which actually describes God as being completely unbound by time, however, Genesis clearly describes the creation week as a specific chronological day, ie..”and the morning and the evening were the first day” ect…

    • JayMS

      Why? Because evolution and the bible are diametrically opposed to one another. The Word is the underpinning of our faith. It is either entirely true or entirely bullshit. Would you worship a God who could not preserve his own word? Neither would I.

      Evolution and God are not compatable. God and science compliment one another perfectly. Evolution is not objective science.

  • http://bb.bbboy.net/themainepatriotboard Poe

    I am with you Sam. I read all of the “intelligent design stuff” It’s a joke.

    Science is by no means foolproof, however the scientific method when applied to something like evolution, as it has been for hundreds of years now when coupled with our new ability to map and trace DNA evolution through species as they evolved even to the common ancestors gives credibility to the theory.

    The thing I don’t understand is that I am a man of faith, raising my children to be that way as well, but I will be dammed if I can find a single reason why my faith or belief in science should be mutually exclusive.

    People say they should not close the door on intelligent design, that it should be open for debate leave me baffled or I am forced to assume that they have not read or interpreted what is being presented.

    I suspect evolution will be up for scientific debate for some time, it is the nature of science, however “Intelligent Design” is some kind of religious propaganda as best I can tell, it doesn’t even make sense, it contradicts itself when it needs to…

    Just got nothing.

    • DesignR

      So we are not allowed to have opinions?

      That’s what is being argued here.
      That is why this news release is so huge.

      It put’s Christians and belivers in a box they are not allowed to get out of. End of discussion. They are saying to me and my family, “You are wrong (science be damned) so shut up”!

    • Sixchuter

      “I am with you Sam. I read all of the “intelligent design stuff” It’s a joke.”

      I’m always up for a good laugh. What did you read?

      “I will be dammed if I can find a single reason why my faith or belief in science should be mutually exclusive.”

      The debate isn’t between religion and science – that’s a false dichotomy. The debate is between good science and bad science.

      “With regard to the origin of life, science… positively affirms creative power.”
      -Lord Kelvin

  • SweetTea

    Think what you will, but I am compelled to believe that Almighty God formed me and created me. Specifically. Beautifully. Uniquely. And like in the Chronicles of Narnia, as Aslan breathed life into the stones statues of the White Witch, God breathed life into the stony hearts of man. It is a beautiful allegory of the Love of God for his creation. Us.

    Psalm 139:1-24
    O Lord, you have searched me and known me! You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from afar. You search out my path and my lying down and are acquainted with all my ways. Even before a word is on my tongue, behold, O Lord, you know it altogether. You hem me in, behind and before, and lay your hand upon me. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high; I cannot attain it. Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol [hell], you are there! If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me.
    If I say, “Surely the darkness shall cover me, and the light about me be night,” even the darkness is not dark to you; the night is bright as the day,
    for darkness is as light with you.

    For you formed my inward parts; you knitted me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; my soul knows it very well. My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret,
    intricately woven in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.

    How precious to me are your thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them! If I would count them, they are more than the sand. I awake, and I am still with you.
    Oh that you would slay the wicked, O God! O men of blood, depart from me! They speak against you with malicious intent; your enemies take your name in vain! Do I not hate those who hate you, O Lord? And do I not loathe those who rise up against you? I hate them with complete hatred; I count them my enemies.

    Search me, O God, and know my heart! Try me and know my thoughts! And see if there be any grievous way in me,and lead me in the way everlasting!

    • GRIZZ

      Beautiful

  • Johnny Doe

    Say, where’s that picture from? Looks familiar… :wink:

    • DesignR

      The photo is from the movie 2001 a space odyssey.

      The ape is about to hit a bone sending it up into the air. The spinning bone rises into the sky and the scene changes in to outer space, a spinning wheel space station and a Pan Am Space Ship.

    • DesignR

      Johhny, I love sarcasm. :cool:

    • Johnny Doe

      :wink:

  • DesignR

    :wink:

  • GRIZZ

    “This just in,we would like to report that we have found the ONLY picture of barak obonzo as a child”

  • CJW

    Apes devolved from man.

  • ji

    They have to prove it or it is and always will be a “theory”
    I guess the thing about a DNA match doesnt count.

  • http://krigtheviking.blogspot.com Krig

    From the article: “Although the creature looks like a lemur, there are some distinctive physical differences…

    Since the fossilized creature found in Germany didn’t have features like a tooth comb or grooming claw, it could be argued that it gave rise to monkeys, apes and humans, which don’t have these features either.”

    So basically they found a type of lemur identical to all other lemurs except lacking a tooth comb and grooming claw, and jumped to the conclusion that it must be a missing link between lemurs and monkeys! Right. Typical evolutionist “logic” — come to your conclusion first, then spin the evidence to fit the conclusion.

    The Theory of Evolution: where baseless speculation substitutes for actual evidence!

  • Bob

    Actually the belief that God created the heavens and the earth in seven days may, ironically, be proven by science using Einstein’s theory of relativity. Unfortunately I can’t remember the title or author of a book I read a few years ago about using science to either prove, or disprove the idea of taking the Book of Genesis literally. The author was a noted scientist and an atheist, at least until the end of his research. The author stated that experiments were conducted that proved that time was relative to both speed and distance from the place of the experiment, in this case a supersonic plane using a laser bounced off an object in space and measuring the time it took to return. To sum it up the author wrote that a literal day on earth from God’s perspective could have taken millions of earth years. BTW, when evolution occurs doesn’t the primary animal disappear after the evolutionary process is complete, leaving the newly evolved animal alone?

  • Gary in Midwest

    Ok…it’s like the left branch of the tree evolved into liberals and the right branch remained monkeys. Everyone else was created as is and the libs and monkeys are still flinging crap.

  • That one dude

    Well first of all why couldn’t God have created evolution? It is how we start from little babies, to grown people. That is evolution. That’s one stage to the other, just like in evolution. It’s based on the concept that we adapt to our surroudings. Life will always exsist as long as the conditions are right.

    Like for example when I work at my job, my hands build callises to toughen my skin because I am constantly working with them. That is evolution. You’r body, plain and simple, has the ability to adapt. But, it’s how they change that makes evolution.
    And when we have babies however we have changed throughout our short lives, it will affect your offspring.

    Say you did a lot of cocaine or heroin when you were younger, then you cleaned up and have a kid, odds are pretty good that the kid isn’t going to be firing on all cylinders.

    Or you have a natural ability for one special thing or a job skill you have. Odds are pretty good that your parents or past generations have done those things very well. You could use pro athlets as a prime example, look at Howie Longs kid, he is in the NFL as a Defensive end. Just like his Dad.

    God would have had to have created the very meaning and thought of evolution for us to come up with it. He creates everything, correct? So, who is to say that evolution doesn’t exist? When someone comes up with a good idea, there is a very good chance that someone else has come up with that very same idea. So, where does it come from, if not from God?

    Everything in this world has a product or a process. When the weather is right, it rains.

    Something doesn’t happen suddenly, something has to happen for it to happen. So, with this logic, God had to have had come up with the very thought and meaning of evolution for us to think this. It works with everything not just evolution. So, with that being said, if there is a God we must be correct about evolution.

    Why would he play games with us?

  • mark

    Interviewed anthropologist in NY recently for documentary by Atlantic Productions. Had to sign a non-disclosure agreement so can’t talk too much about subject. He bought the fossil. It came from a world class German fossil area so seemingly legitimate. To doubt the idea that we evolved from more primitive species seems to go against the weight of scientific evidence. The Earth had no polar caps when this animal existed and life was flourishing during this global warming period. Gee I wonder if they made more fuel efficient cars then if it would make a difference?

    • Sixchuter

      “The Earth had no polar caps when this animal existed and life was flourishing during this global warming period.”
      Yes. There is ample evidence that the earth has undergone huge climatic changes in short periods of time. In fact there are some who claim that, after the last ice age, the polar ice caps took fewer than 20 years to receed.

      The evidence for climate change blows classical Darwinism out of the fucking water. Thus the need for the Punctuated Equilibrium theory. Anyone who still believes in classical Darwinism is a complete ignoramus.

  • mark

    I can’t speak for g.d but do know the Vatican has observatories around the world and they are not looking for some white guy in a robe. They are looking at the heavens and searching for knowledge not proof that it took 7 days to create the universe

  • windigo

    Folks…whether you like it or not…EVOLUTION IS A FACT! pURE and Simple…Many on this thread are ignorant of the process…Most of your thoughts and idea’s are ill-informed…and in fact, wrong. It is a complicated process and takes more than a cursory study to really understand how and why it occurs…but alas, get with the program…EVOLUTION is the foundation of modern biology!

    • solomonpal

      Does this mean you won’t pass me ammo when I need some? :sad:

    • That one dude

      oh i will.

    • Sixchuter

      So, which theory of evolution is fact, classical Darwinism or the Punctuated Equilibrium theory? Do you know the difference between the two?

      Also, your claim that “evolution is the foundation of modern biology” is untrue.

      The great biologist and father of bacteriology, Louis Pasteur, had this to say: “The more I know, the more does my faith approach that of the Breton peasant. Could I but know all, I would have the faith of a Breton peasant woman.”

  • TerryTate

    I think it’s time to start making more and more of these fake missing link skeletons. Set it all up and watch the evolutionists go ape shit every time they realize they’ve been had.

    If you evolutionists have a problem with that, just think of it as your own Da Vinci Code. You know a Dan Brown kinda thing. All make believe and just having fun with what you believe. You know, just think of it as being punked.

    No biggie, I’m sure you’ll get over it eventually.

  • PkahnPie

    SIXCHUTER; You’re not to bright are you?

    • Sixchuter

      I have an I.Q. that’s more than high enough to get me into MENSA.

  • PKahnPie

    SIXCHUTER; I believe the entry stating that the earth was once flat, was sarcastic. But you took the bait.

    • Sixchuter

      I know the flat-earth comment was sarcastic – it was meant to insinuate that medieval Christians thought the earth was flat.

      If you hadn’t been to lazy to click on the link I provided, you would have learned that the flat-earth view is a myth started in the 1830′s.

      Talk about not being too bright. You’re out of your league, little boy.