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“A Latina Woman Would More Often Than Not Reach A Better Conclusion Than A White Male” And “Judges’ Legal Findings Are Based On Their Own Life Experience As Well As (The Law)”



May 26, 2009 31 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

Obama Supreme Court

“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male” – Judge Sotomayer

Why are we to believe that being Puerto Rican and female automatically makes one better at understanding the Constitution than being white and male?

NY Times:

WASHINGTON — In 2001, Sonia Sotomayor, an appeals court judge, gave a speech declaring that the ethnicity and sex of a judge “may and will make a difference in our judging.”

In her speech, Judge Sotomayor questioned the famous notion — often invoked by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her retired Supreme Court colleague, Sandra Day O’Connor — that a wise old man and a wise old woman would reach the same conclusion when deciding cases.

“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor.

Her remarks, at the annual Judge Mario G. Olmos Law and Cultural Diversity Lecture at the University of California, Berkeley, were not the only instance in which she has publicly described her view of judging in terms that could provoke sharp questioning in a confirmation hearing.

This month, for example, a video surfaced of Judge Sotomayor asserting in 2005 that a “court of appeals is where policy is made.” She then immediately adds: “And I know — I know this is on tape, and I should never say that because we don’t make law. I know. O.K. I know. I’m not promoting it. I’m not advocating it. I’m — you know.”

The video was of a panel discussion for law students interested in becoming clerks, and she was explaining the different experiences gained when working at district courts and appeals courts. Her remarks caught the eye of conservative bloggers who accused her of being a “judicial activist,” although Jonathan H. Adler, a professor at Case Western Reserve University law school, argued that critics were reading far too much into those remarks.

Republicans have signaled that they intend to put the eventual nominee under a microscope, and they say they were put on guard by Mr. Obama’s statement that judges should have “empathy,” a word they suggest could be code for injecting liberal ideology into the law.

Judge Sotomayor has given several speeches about the importance of diversity. But her 2001 remarks at Berkeley, which were published by the Berkeley La Raza Law Journal, went further, asserting that judges’ identities will affect legal outcomes.

“Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences,” she said, for jurists who are women and nonwhite, “our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging.”

Her remarks came in the context of reflecting her own life experiences as a Hispanic female judge and on how the increasing diversity on the federal bench “will have an effect on the development of the law and on judging.”

Excerpted from WAPO:

If confirmed, Sotomayor, 54, would be the first Supreme Court justice of Hispanic descent and only the third woman ever to sit on the panel. She grew up in a Bronx housing project, went on to Princeton University and Yale Law School, and has stirred controversy by saying that judges’ legal findings are informed by their own life experiences as well as their legal research. (Read: “As well as the law”)

Obama, too, has said jurists’ life experiences are a key part of their legal makeup. He met Sotomayor in person for the first time Thursday at the White House, administration officials say. After spending the weekend at Camp David, he made his decision to nominate her last night.

However, she is strongly opposed by conservative groups, who — like her supporters — began to issue statements about her nomination even before it was announced. Even the Obama administration has differed with one of her more controversial decisions, which invalidated results of a firefighter promotion exam in New Haven, Conn.

“Judge Sotomayor is a liberal judicial activist of the first order who thinks her own personal political agenda is more important than the law as written,” said Wendy E. Long, counsel to the Judicial Confirmation Network, in a statement e-mailed to reporters this morning. “She thinks that judges should dictate policy, and that one’s sex, race, and ethnicity ought to affect the decisions one renders from the bench.”

Sotomayor was part of a three-judge panel that upheld New Haven, Conn.’s, decision to scuttle a promotions test for firefighters after the results showed no African Americans qualified for advancement. The white firefighters who would have been promoted said the decision violated federal law and their constitutional rights.

The case was appealed to the Supreme Court, and a ruling is expected before the end of this term. The case went to the high court after an unusual dissent by conservative fellow judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit, who said Sotomayor and two others tried to bury important federal law and constitutional questions raised by the firefighters’ suit in their ruling.

The Supreme Court seemed unlikely to let the decision stand when it heard arguments in the case last month.


  • B. Verner

    How was she nominated to the bench by George H. W. Bush?

    • jasjfarrell

      Just say no.

  • http://snooperreport.com Mark Harvey (aka Snooper)

    Bush #1 was one of those “compassionate conservatives” which can be read as one of those Democrats in drag.

    • Wigpeeler

      yup, that “kinder-gentler America’ really worked out well eh? :neutral:

  • Lock and Load

    Sotomayor’s life story is not much different from Justice Thomas, yet the dhimmicrats felt it necessary to rip him to shreds. However, in the world of Obambi, it is a great thing to be praised and appear on every newscast from the MSM for the next week :roll: The question to be asked is “what should we really be looking at right now, that this non-story is being used to smokescreen… :?: :???:

    • Specter

      Yep
      Clearly they took over the news cycle. I’m getting really fucking tired of all the idiots and sheeple we have to contend with. Every day we inch closer and closer to full on fascism and people only seem to be able to bitch. I’m tired of it, I’ve volunteered 5 times to start a Colorado chapter and five times I’ve been ignored. I’m at the point were I’m not seeing a solution to anything in here. Just spamming of the MSM is about all. I’ve been around since this site started, I watched TRA wither and die and I’m seeing the same thing with ACTIVE, albeit there are far more members. What, I gotta use twitter, fuck that shit-you’ll have to put a bullet in my head before I sign into that shit. Same with MySpace and Facebook, your only taking a red pill with that shit.

      Pakistan Swat valley
      Gates says Taliban has initiative and upper hand in Afghanistan.
      Iran rattling the saber in the Gulf of Aden.
      NKorea nuke tests followed by 2 missile tests.
      And the FUCKING STOCK MARKET is a den of fucking lies. WE ARE FUCKING BROKE, and the usurper has made it a point to tell that to the world.

    • GRIZZ

      This party is just getting started.

    • http://www.killingjanefonda.com cllucas

      Specter–I’m fired up too and I like your thinking….but Gates is full of shit. The Taliban have the initiative in Pakistan because the Paki leadership has been pussies for a while…but they don’t have shit her in A-stan. Wily, yes…but initiative? No….

    • Specter

      I know he’s full of shit, Gates is just part of corrupting the news cycle this week. A-stan is nowhere near a problem as Pakistan is right now. The population of that islamic state should be enough to alarm the most pragmatic person we have on our side.

      We’re running out of time faster then anyone on this site is willing to admit.

      While I don’t agree with Gates assessment, the amount of initiative coming from the United States in this regard comes from the people who are not in power or positioned to be in power for quite some time.

      People better wake the fuck up, peaceful solutions are rapidly deteriorating.

  • Jarhead68

    Is Obumble admiring her ass or his expensive shoes? The world wants to know. :razz:

    • YERMOM

      YERMOM thinks that he is getting ready to slap that fat ass.

  • cooper

    Sodomizer doesn’t have a clue what it means to be a judge or fairly practice law. She has gotten ahead in life because of liberal white guilt, gender, race, and her left wing opinions. We all knew this kind of shit would be dropped on us with Hussein. On the other hand, I’m sure mccain will vote to approve this pompous liberal hag.

  • Somefed

    Hmmmmm…..She’s Puerto Rican. As a Puerto Rican we’ll see if she really sides with Mexico. Most Puerto Ricans Hate Mexicans :mrgreen:

    • YERMOM

      she was part of la raza sooooo YERMOM thinks that she is probably pro illegal aliens.

  • Trigger Control

    Sotomayor: ‘I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male’…

    Fucking racist cunt! :evil:

  • Tom in CO

    So much for having read the Constitution being a requirement for Supreme Court Justice.

  • robbie

    Someone should point out to her that white men created the USA & Asian created Mexico. So if a Latina (fake race they are ASIANS!!!!) can do better I would be totally amazed. Is she gonna cheat off a white justices notes???

    • Lone Wolf

      Asians? You’re an idiot. There are much bigger differences between people than skin color or eye shape. I don’t care what you look like if you love this country, are an American first, exhibit honesty, initiative and self-reliance, and respect our Constitution for what it actually says – instead of pursuing a victim/power agenda and trying to destroy our freedom.

  • robbie

    Sorry lone wolf, but your the idoit. There are only three race in the world & Latina isn’t one of them. Go back to school to learn my point. Asian came across the land bridge 10000 years ago from Asia. My point dunce is if she isn’t smart enough to know her own race how is she smart enough for the high court???? So get bent u libtard.

    • Lone Wolf

      Seems to me that the Spanish and French had a hand in how Mexico developed. And we can all trace our ancestry back to a small population in East Africa 200,000 years ago – so everyone is basically an African. Buzz off, troll – “your the idoit”.

    • robbie

      Come to ft Leavenworth and say that to my face you pussy!! I promise to only beat your half to death.

    • Specter

      Blog Fight :razz:

    • Specter

      I vote LoneWolf to be Peter Griffin and robbie can be the man chicken. :lol:

      Seriously dudes

  • http://heyitsjustablogman.blogspot.com/2009/05/how-to-stop-sotomayor.html Ted
  • Bobachek

    If the comment had been reversed in which a white male said that

    a “Caucasian male would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman” he would be identified as a racist member of the Neo Nazi party…

    Reverse discrimination is alive and well….

  • ignifer

    I sense that garrison fever is setting in. I believe in the ‘real life’ as opposed to internet milieu the solution would be intense physical training, intense intellectual training and constant maintenance of individual equipment to keep the peace, but that isn’t an option in this setting.
    This site provides an important service as a clearing house of information on current events and the ability of like minded individuals to respond, commiserate and communicate. But the “say that to my face” stuff and denigrating those who may be mistaken, simply wrong or who have a different opinion on meaningless matters as “idiots” is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
    Want to contribute? Write HELPFUL things…express meaningful things…we seem to have people here with skills and experiences we can all learn from to help us all in the trying times to come.
    Tell me what all those damn strap slots on an LC2 pack are FOR, CAUSE I DON’T HAVE A CLUE.
    Respond to one of the stories here regarding the most efective points to make to your Congress-critter when you write them, for example, regarding the racist laRaza supporter nominated by the non-born usurper to the USSC..or something.
    I also suggest getting your REAL shit together…Do you have a short term plan for when the SHTF?
    Food and water for your family for a period of time?
    Do you feel you are competent with your M-forgery?
    Have you covered YOUR ass and can you write something here constructive helping the rest of us do the same?
    Write relevant things to help us all.
    If not come to East Bum-Fuck and say so to my face and I’ll stomp a mud hole in yore ass and then walk it dry, you syphilitic bastard rats!
    Just Kidding.
    Much Love….

  • Bobert

    This woman has had 6 of here appeals court rulings appealed before the US Supreme Court – and the USSC has overturned her rulings 5 times because she is an idiot and fails to rule based on the law as enacte (instead of based on her “feelings”) . . . and somehow Obama thinks that this makes her qualified to become a Supreme Court justice????

  • moriah

    Only minorities can get away with saying the kind of racist shit that the Left are constantly vomiting out. If a White person were to say it, we’d be excoriated. . Black people can have their Black this and La Raza that. But hell not, don’t say White pride or White Caucus. We need to pay and pay big. Well we’re all going to pay and pay big because we’ve lost our deterrence.

    • YERMOM

      the problem is that when a minority does it they need to be called out on it.