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Saving Their Children From “The God Delusion”: Parents Gather To Nurture Atheism



May 19, 2009 20 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

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Charlotte News And Observer:

RALEIGH — On Sunday mornings, when many of their contemporaries are taking their seats in church pews, a group of young parents mingle in the living room of a suburban home while their children run around playing games.

This congregation of Triangle residents has no creed or ceremony, just a desire to get together and offer each other support for rearing children without religion. Taking their cue from a primer of the same name, they call themselves Parenting Beyond Belief, and they meet nearly every Sunday, in a city park, an indoor playground or in people’s homes.

Americans unaffiliated with any particular faith have grown faster than any religious group according to two recent surveys of the U.S. religious landscape. These “unaffiliated” have doubled in the past 20 years and now account for 16 percent of the population.

Increasingly, they are vocal about their nonbelief and eager to speak out about it.

“No one should be alone in their disbelief,” said Keri Rush, 40, of Wake Forest.

Not everyone in the group is an atheist. Some prefer to call themselves “freethinkers” or “humanists,” or “spiritual but not religious.” Some are even believers. But they share a disdain for organized religion and a desire to rear their children with the tools to think for themselves.

Answering questions

These parents know what it’s like to fumble for the right answer to questions such as “Why don’t we go to church?” and “Is God real?” and they want to share their responses with like-minded parents.

For example, when 6-year-old Evan Spiering announced one day that “God created the world,” his father, Todd Spiering, answered, “Grandpa believes that. Some people believe other things.”

Spiering, 31, a self-employed carpenter who hosted the gathering Sunday, said he wants his three children to question and probe.

“We don’t have to act like we have it all figured out,” Spiering said. “I’m more comfortable not knowing.”

Only Minneapolis had a parenting group for nonbelievers when Dale McGowan, the Atlanta-based author of “Parenting Beyond Belief,” set out to write his book three years ago. Today, there are at least 32 nationwide by his count — the Raleigh chapter being among the most active. A father of three children, McGowan said the idea for the book came to him when his son began asking questions. “I felt like I was shooting in the dark and needed guidance,” he said.

Though only the Raleigh group takes its name from the book, the parenting groups consist of families wanting some kind of community to replace the religious one they left behind or grew up without. At last count, 71 people were on the e-mail list.

This group also wants to provide their children the opportunity to be with children from similar homes. On Sunday, parents ladled a cheesy chicken soup into bowls, while the children noshed on crackers, tortilla chips or sandwiches.
Atheism coming out

It’s not always easy being an atheist. A 2008 Gallup poll found that only Scientologists fared worse than atheists in the public’s views. Both groups ranked at the bottom of the favorability list. Those attitudes are more hardened in the South, where polls show more people identify as religious than in any other part of the country.

“Where I work, I’m not really out as an atheist,” Bruce Harris, 36, a graphic designer who lives in Cary, said during the gathering Sunday. “My boss assumes that everyone around him has some religion. It doesn’t occur to him that there are atheists.”

The group, Harris said, provides him an opportunity to be himself. “You don’t have to walk on eggshells,” he said.
A spate of books by atheists has helped ease some of the loneliness. Best-selling books such as Christopher Hitchens’ “God is Not Great” and Richard Dawkins’ “The God Delusion” have lent some respectability to nonbelievers, and at the least made their existence better known.

But members of the parenting group said they are not as strident as these writers. The Triangle is also home to several atheist groups, including one organized — like the parenting group — at www.meetup.com.

Several parents said they preferred the company of the nonreligious parent group. Whereas atheists are defined by what they don’t believe, members of this group want to be known for their desire to raise caring, responsible, ethical children.
“People think if you don’t believe in God you have no morals,” said Niki Ashmont, a social worker from Zebulon who attended Sunday. “That’s just not the case.”


  • GRIZZ

    And they will teach their children life based on what principles.Dont lie,steal,kill etc.Where do they think that comes from? What do they tell them laws are based on?Will they blow dope smoke in their face too?

  • Scoot

    How much you want to bet that these people will want to be the new minorities, crying for special rights, and saying that they’ve been oppressed for years?

    Of course, the government will cater to their every whim. :evil:

  • DoubleTap

    Grizz, they are just setting up their kids to be eternal skeptics without any basis for hope, self-control, discipline, or respect. Just self-indulgent spoiled brats. Just like all the other yuppie entitlement-sucking faithless libs.

  • anonymous hourly worker

    Pathetic. Way to deprive your kids of the ultimate strength of knowing that someone greater than yourself loves you for who you are, cares what happens to you and is waiting to hold you after you die. Tantamount to child abuse.

  • Tim Roesch

    Okay, as the resident, conservative Agnostic, allow me to remind all and asundry of a little something called the first amendment.

    These parents have the right to raise their children as A-Theistic (without religion). They do not have the right to force A-Theism down anyone’s throat but they have the right to believe in no God, Goddess etc.

    Believe in ALL the Constitution or none of it.

    Just thought I would stick that in there.
    If Moses had come to me and presented me with Numbers 31:17-18 I would have told him to go back and get a confirmation from God and if God confirmed it I would have told God, do it yourself, over my dead body…

    I Love God: it’s his fan club I can’t stand.

    • anonymous hourly worker

      I didn’t think this blog had ANYTHING to do with the Constitution; it’s a commentary on how some people raise their children.

      And as the child of two avowed athiests, who forbid the mention of God and Jesus Christ in the home, I can tell you EXACTLY what these children will miss as they grow up…because it will be exactly what I missed: the comfort of trusting God and the very mistaken idea that the entire world revolves around rational experience, that nothing follows the grave and therefore there is no real motivation for curbing various behaviors. It becomes all about what you can get right now, no matter what it takes and no matter who it hurts, even if that person is yourself.

      I was the PRODUCT of those mistaken beliefs, and it took me a lot of time to see just how mistaken they were.

    • American Woman

      Yes they have the right to raise there children however they want, at least until the dems/un take over.
      Being from the south and born in NC this sadens me, we are the bible belt and it seems as the liberals flood the south they are changing it for the worse.
      What do you all bet they are mostly liberals??
      “Spiering, 31, a self-employed carpenter who hosted the gathering Sunday, said he wants his three children to question and probe.”
      as long as it is not obongo. question no but probing Im sure he would like.
      HAHAHA

    • Ivan the Kafir

      I would kindly remind the poster that “atheism” is, as defined by Merriam-Webster’s 11th Edition, the disbelief in the existence of a deity. At no point does atheism express a disbelief in religion. Religion, as defined in several ways by the same source, is a) “a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices,” b)”scrupulous conformity,” or c) “a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.”

      I will back up your claims concerning the Constitution and will admit that God’s fan club can be annoying. I will assert, however, that the atheism fan club can be equally annoying. As per the definitions above, it should be apparent that atheists also hold a form of religion and cleave to it with the same fanatical devotion which they attribute to Christianity.

      As for Numbers, I cannot claim to be a theologian but I can say this much: God is the Creator and we are the Creation. What right does the pot have to dictate to the potter as to its physical dimensions? But the Creation decided that it knew better than the Creator and it disobeyed God. It chose a path which was contrary to God’s infinite wisdom, a wisdom which did not wish that any should perish but that all should have eternal life. But since he allowed his Creation the gift of free will, he had to allow them the ability to die.

      The relation to Numbers is in the disobedience of the Midianites to God. So long as the Israelites were faithful to God, they were His instrument of justice. So soon as they were disobedient, they found themselves in the wilderness of their sin. After the killing of the Midianites, God commands Moses to purify everything down to the smallest article. They were to recognize that they were the instrument of God’s will and that disobedience to God’s will resulted in death.

      If this sounds harsh, consider that this was the Old Covenant. But even before the Old Covenant, God had prepared a plan of salvation for the people of Israel in the form of Christ’s sacrifice for the disobedience of Creation. The entire Old Testament is a prefigurement of Christ.

  • Ty520

    It really isn’t appropriate to be tackling these non-political issues, and even attempting to install them into the political atmosphere.

    I second Tim Roesch’s post, and I will raise him, as the resident conservative Atheist.

    The very founding of our nation was partly inspired by the desire to ensure that no government enforced or endorsed a particular faith or sect

    Though many of our founding fathers were spiritual, they consciously ensured that any mention of faith resided within inspirational documents, and remained vague in their mentions (refer to: Declaration of Independence, etc.) Countless personal writings declared a need to maintain a secular government. All objective, legally-binding documents are completely absent of any endorsement of any faith, spiritual endeavor, or subjective moral code (refer to: United States Constitution, etc.) As people who proclaim to uphold the US Constitution, it is altogether dishonest to cherry-pick from our legal system.

    It is also morally and ethically dishonest to proclaim that all ethics and morals are entirely a product of and unique to the Christian faith

    If you truly wish to install Christian faith into our political system, admit it, but you will also be required to admit that you truly do not wish to abide by or respect the US Constitution.

    • GRIZZ

      The reference to “CREATOR” doesnt count?

  • prestonbrooks

    :cool: Dupes of Lucifer. 50 bucks says they’ll want “special legislation.” Lucifer’s best con job is convincing people he does not exist. To believe that God does not exists also requires faith…

    • Grumpy Mechanic

      It takes more faith to believe that there is no God than to believe that He exists. The evidence is everywhere in His creation. IMHO. :mrgreen:

    • GRIZZ

      SELAH

    • DesignR

      Amen.

    • Tim Roesch

      Dear Grumpy:
      I once asked a pair of Mormon Missionaries the following question:

      If you received iron clad, completely true, 100% verifiable evidence that God did not exist, would you still believe in him?

      Everyone I have ever asked this question of has paused a moment…

      The problem with Faith is that without wisdom, without thought, it is the most powerful drug known to man. It will cause mothers to kill their children, fathers to kill their wives. It destroys family, community and culture. In the name of God has been the death of millions or more.

      To believe in God despite what you, yourself, believe requires far more than faith.

      But let’s put that all aside…I think an Atheist can pass the ammo as well as a devote Catholic or Reform Jew. Let us not be too narrow minded. Let us not divide ourselves before battle.

      Let us pray and if you believe naught in God, let us ponder…

    • grumpy mechanic

      I feel I have 100% verifiable proof that God does exist.
      When I say I have faith it does not mean that there is a chance that I may be wrong, it means I am trusting in His wisdom to run my life and all things around me. I am open to what he wants me to do (although not perfect at this) that is where the lack of faith rears it’s ugly head, when I try to do other than his will for me.

  • TerryTate

    If you are a freethinker, why do you need a support group?

    I think that’s what they call being delusional.

    • David Ross

      LMFAO! That is exactly right. It in fact was the “freethinking athiest” who forced their view upon the populace by making it illegal to discuss God in school. Christians did not make it mandatory for everyone to pray but did that stop the “freethinkers”? NO, because like liberals you must believe as they do.

  • Ernest T. Bass

    …let GOD sort ‘em out

  • Bob

    Hey Tim,

    I will certainly pass the ammo to an atheist.As far as being annoyed by the fan club, you’re supposed to Honor God, not compare him to something as imperfect as man.