Feds Issue Subpoena For Info On Website Commenters

June 17th, 2009 (20) Posted By Pat Dollard.

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LAS VEGAS — A Nevada newspaper says it has been served a federal grand jury subpoena seeking information about readers who posted comments on the paper’s Web site.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported Tuesday that its editor, Thomas Mitchell, plans to fight the request, which the newspaper received after reporting on a federal tax fraud case against business owner Robert Kahre.

The subpoena seeks the identities and personal information about people who posted comments on the story. The newspaper said prosecutors told the judge in the case that some comments hinted at acts of violence and the subpoena was issued out of concern for jurors’ safety.

Mitchell said anonymous speech is “a fundamental and historic part of this country.” The newspaper would consider cooperating if specific crimes or real threats were presented, he said.

The newspaper said the subpoena bears the name of U.S. Assistant District Attorney J. Gregory Damm, a lawyer on the Justice Department team that is prosecuting Kahre and others on charges including income tax evasion, fraud and criminal conspiracy.

Grand jury proceedings are secret, and the subpoena is not a public record.

A spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney for Nevada declined to comment.

The newspaper said it received the subpoena June 2, a week after its story describing the government’s case against Kahre, a Las Vegas construction company executive accused of paying contractors with gold and silver U.S. coins based on the precious metal value of the coins but using the much lower face value of the coins for tax purposes. Kahre and the other defendants have pleaded not guilty.

The story drew nearly 175 online comments by Monday night, most in support of Kahre and critical of the government and jurors and attorneys in the case.

One commentator said: “The sad thing is there are 12 dummies on the jury who will convict him. They should be hung along with the feds.”

Another called Damm a “socialist, fascist Mormon” and a “Nazi moron.”

The comments are written under pseudonyms. Along with the real names of people who posted comments, the subpoena asks the newspaper for the writers’ gender, birth date, physical address, telephone number, Internet service provider, IP address and credit card numbers.

After a 2003 raid on Kahre’s business, Kahre and several of his workers sued Damm, two Internal Revenue Service agents and others who were involved. That civil matter is pending.

In 2007, Kahre sued Damm and agents of the FBI and IRS, alleging criminal behavior. U.S. District Court Judge David Ezra dismissed the complaint in December, and Kahre appealed to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Two years ago, Damm prosecuted a similar tax case against nine defendants, including Kahre. The trial ended with no convictions and four acquittals.

Five defendants were partially acquitted, and two of them were dropped from the indictment that generated the current case.

(AP)

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  • http://www.twitter.com/Archinfidel ArchInfidel

    Well boys and girls, I’m not surprised, and neither should any of you when we all get the knock knock at the front door :sad:

    • force1

      and a boom boom with a reply.

    • Vehement

      Hey, force1

      I see it’s been 2 days since your comment. Anyone come knocking yet?

  • Lottie

    I know but what is said is said. We may have to pay but it comes with a price! I thought FREEDOM was free! :roll: Don’t I live in the UNITEDSTATES OF AMERICA? :shock: So I am alright right? :???: Ahaaaa did I say that>>>>>>>>>>>> :mrgreen:

  • Sully

    They don’t need to worry about us ‘poisoning’ the jury pool for the trial of Barry the Red. ;-)

  • KennedyStupidity

    I wonder if the Grand Juries that have INDICTED Obama/Soetoro “The PONZI PREZ” will ever get SUBPOENA POWER?
    Is there a JUDGE who’ll stand for the Constitution and force Obama/Soetoro to answer to these Grand Jury Indictments.
    The BaWRECK Obamerica has started.

    BO Got BC? NBC?
    LQQK see http://www.wnd.com

  • billy_bonney

    Right, play sherlock holmes with some guy who makes a comment in a newspaper and ignore the terrorist Jehadi cells in major cities because they are in a Mosque.

    What do you expect?

    Billy

  • force1

    we are the enemy now, the terrorists are in control of our government.

  • FIU Alum

    Part of the plan. Bye Bye 1st Amendment

  • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

    :arrow:
    My question to comments here:
    So what the fuck are you going to do about it?
    I know the standard answer, “keep your powder dry”…

    I don’t know what the fuck to do about it either…..but DAMN, how much more????

    • toldyouso

      I guess everyone will have to draw the proverbial line in the sand in their own mind.

  • tahDeetz

    Deny the First, Reap the Second.

  • Snowman

    Proxy servers will delay them for a little while…

  • anonymous hourly worker

    Uh-oh. With some of the weird crap I look at on the net, they should be arriving at the front door of my bosses’ office any moment now.

    Now he’ll know what I’m really doing when he screams, “Have you finished that memo yet?”

    • toldyouso

      I was at my ex-wifes house 2 weeks ago. They will be coming for her soon.

  • DoubleTap

    They have no case at all. None of the comments quoted said “I am going to…”, or any direct threat. They all simply make suggestions about what “should” be done or give personal opinions on the political basis of the subject. Slander, on the other hand, is another issue.

    The problem here is that there is precedence for the request, and the courts have demanded access to user information recently on other cases where the SEC claimed that insider information was disclosed on a website.

    Remember that most newspapers and broadcast sites have a set of Terms & Conditions for use as well as a privacy policy that dictates what they can do with your personal information. These user’s are screwed. The paper will eventually be forced to provide their identity and they will be pursued by the fed forever more.

    As a side note, I really do hope that this site is not gathering or storing ANY information on the posters at all. That email address we post with should be deleted immediately by the site and never stored, and the same with the IP. If not, then we are all kinda screwed with the poo hits the prop on this site (soon enough)

  • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

    Yesterday, I made a warning comment, that I posted on “Obama-State Dept” story, that talked about a bunch of obama-crap on Yahoo and AOL blogs who reporting anti-obama comments to Feds and trying to get all those who make comments to lose “blog privlages” on Yahoo and AOL…..

    If they win at shutting us out of normal blogs, then the Left will control blog comments on Yahoo and AOL too.

  • http://n/a rightside

    I’m not very bight, smart or the brightest apple, may even the dullest apple in the bunch are you telling me if I’m posting disparaging words about Obama I can get into trouble?

    • http://patdollard.com Average Joe

      :arrow: rightside
      On some sites yes, like the more “everyone’s here” sites such as YouTube/Yahoo Buzz/AOL’s….

      There are some Obamabots claiming ALL anti-obama posts are threatening to Obama or left, and meet the ‘cut-off-the-account’ criteria for the blog poster who makes anti-obama comments.

      At least 3-4 of these Obama-clowns are claiming to be reporting lots of anti-obama comments to Homeland Security and DNC-MSM.

  • FIU Alum

    Some good news on this.

    The Senate has agreed to full hearings to debate the “Hate Crime” Bill.

    Kennedy was looking to ram rod it thru without debate.

    Remember this bill is not just about stopping guys from shooting up the Holocaust Museum.

    It’s a backdoor to shut all of us up from criticizing Barry O.