Comments on: House To Vote On $550 Billion Defense Bill, Obama Threatens Veto

By: ArchInfidel

ArchInfidel — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:58:26 +0000

“But if he spends too much then he gets called out on wasteful spending but if he takes some things outs he gets called out on not having the nations interest at heart. Itâ€™s all very ridiculous.”

Hey Jeff you sound like an Obama Nazi, what the hell is wrong with you?!

It’s not a balancing act, its a matter of principle, if the douche bag in chief has the money to spend on Cap and Trade, and health care than he better not say boo about national defense!

Whats ridiculous is you no seeing Obama is ruining this nation on PURPOSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: ArchInfidel

ArchInfidel — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 03:53:03 +0000

Ok Jeff, since you are obviously an expert in aviation electronics, tell me should we than sell dumb down f22′s to our enemies too? After all only the electronics make the plane. Seriously get a clue!

And no the japs could never get to close to the chinese cost, just like that didn’t happen to us in the last decade, get our plane escorted down, and held just long enough for them to study and get our systems and than released.

You have no fing clue what systems we would remove from these planes. And there is a reason we CURRENTLY have a BAN on selling the most advanced plane in the history of the world!

By: Sully

Sully — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:25:56 +0000

It’s likely that putting the 500+ pilots out of work is the primary target of Barry and the workers already wielding ‘shovels’ building fighter jets are his twisted view of collateral damage.
Sorta like the unfortunates working at auto dealerships working to try and actually sell and maintain cars and trucks but got in the way of the Statist takeover and re-distribution of GM and Chrysler.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:40:48 +0000

ArchInfidel, you do know that it is the electronics and avionics on the F-22 are what make it so special. Also, all of that tech is nothing without a skilled pilot.
Think of taking the avionics and electronics off the F-22 as removing the full auto feature on M-16s for civilian users. Or think of it in computer terms. The USA will be keeping 5.0 version while we are giving Japan a 4.5 version.

“All we need if for china to escort one of the Japanese F-22â€™s down over the mainland and reverse engineer it!”

Umm what? Japan would never fly close enough to China to let a plane or pilot go down there. Are you really that clueless?

By: Reloader449

Reloader449 — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:43:07 +0000

Anyone followed the news about how the F-15 Eagle is faring? Designed for 20 – 25 years of Cold War service, fielded in 1972. Hmmm, let’s see, more of that pesky arithmetic. Uh, it’s … wait, don’t tell me … uh, 2009 minus 1972. So why are F-15′s breaking up in flight? CUZ THEY’RE ALMOST 40 years old !!!

And how many of those F-15′s is the F-22 supposed to replace? Well, just the Air Superiority F-15 C’s and D’s, not the ground-attack E’s. How many of the Cs/Ds do we have and need?

More then SEVEN HUNDRED.

You’re gonna replace more than 700 combat pilots and their planes with only 187? Are you out of your fucking mind?

By: Reloader449

Reloader449 — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:33:49 +0000

The “Air Force” has not said it needs no more F-22s. The ONLY person, get that A SINGLE PERSON, who says we don’t need any more is the CIVILIAN Air Force Secretary. Politically appointed, never meets the enemy, not a pilot nor warfighter … just dedicated to his next government promotion. Sound familiar? Anyone else you know of that has never done anything except whore for the next higher gov’t position? Maybe the highest?

The arithmetic of the numbers of planes per squadron (far fewer for F-22 than other jets), the number of planes always in scheduled maintenance, the number of squadrons, the number of LARGE OCEANS, and the NUMBER OF ENEMIES FOR GOD’s SAKE … may be difficult to those who haven’t followed it closely (Jeff). Trust me, as an Air Force Vet, the number needed is above 250.

By: ArchInfidel

ArchInfidel — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:03:56 +0000

Thank you sully, I agree 100%, Give the japs a few more F-15′s fine, but you don’t roll out the F-22 to ANYONE! period.

By: ArchInfidel

ArchInfidel — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:02:23 +0000

I don’t trust Canada to have the F-22. When you make a leap in technology like this you keep it to yourself. They already have F-15′s and F-2 which is basically an F-16, we don’t need to give them the F-22.

And Gaige, I don’t care if they change the electronics, its still the F-22 numb nuts! I saw a video where the F-22 faced off against F/A 18′s F-16′s and F-15′s and scored a kill ratio of 120something to 0!

All we need if for china to escort one of the Japanese F-22′s down over the mainland and reverse engineer it!

By: Sully

Sully — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:03:08 +0000

No Jeff.
It’s not a “horrible balancing act” because there’s no balance to Obamanomics. And it’s “confusing” to you because you don’t recognize Obamanomics for what it is… a Statist reorganization of the American capitalist economy.
What has Barry done since January that has been of benefit to the American economy?
And before you answer ‘bailing out the financial services and automotive industries’, consider what the proper use of the term ‘bail out’ should be as well as what those corporations look like now vs. pre-recession.

Oh and the Japanese are notorious for reverse engineering. Going back a long way. That’s true of most of Asia and has everything to do with their own education systems not encouraging individual critical thought.
Just like the Obama vision for education reform in America.

By: CplUsmc

CplUsmc — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:15:48 +0000

They’ll need that health care when they’re all dying from radiation. What good is domestic spending if you can’t defend yourself internationally.