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		<title>By: alle</title>
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		<dc:creator>alle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama the Marxist is a tyrant and despot.  But too many people are more involved with American Idol to understand their very nation is going down the shitter.</description>
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		<title>By: silversurfer</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/06/obama-big-business-and-the-fall-of-capitalism/#comment-475440</link>
		<dc:creator>silversurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tinm - I politely disagree.  In the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson said:                                                 &quot;Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.&quot;

Obamism is not absolute despotism, it is soft tyranny. A system that does not jail or crush opponents but destroys work ethic, entrepreneurial spirit, and individual rights.  We are no where near a point where Americans are forced to or are willing to use arms against their fellow countrymen. Obamaism will simply suck the life out of this nation through a ever increasing scope of entitlements and expectation of such and by placing increasing burdens on business and higher taxes on the true producers, small business.  We are not anywhere near the point of armed revolution.  Unemployment is rising but there is still a very large group of people, the Constitution is being weakened, but the vast majority of Americans are fat and ok. At this point, the evils of Obama are still &quot;sufferable&quot; and our nation in a decline that has gained great speed recently but which has been going on for some time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tinm &#8211; I politely disagree.  In the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson said:                                                 &#8220;Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obamism is not absolute despotism, it is soft tyranny. A system that does not jail or crush opponents but destroys work ethic, entrepreneurial spirit, and individual rights.  We are no where near a point where Americans are forced to or are willing to use arms against their fellow countrymen. Obamaism will simply suck the life out of this nation through a ever increasing scope of entitlements and expectation of such and by placing increasing burdens on business and higher taxes on the true producers, small business.  We are not anywhere near the point of armed revolution.  Unemployment is rising but there is still a very large group of people, the Constitution is being weakened, but the vast majority of Americans are fat and ok. At this point, the evils of Obama are still &#8220;sufferable&#8221; and our nation in a decline that has gained great speed recently but which has been going on for some time.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/06/obama-big-business-and-the-fall-of-capitalism/#comment-475436</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point Tim. If a vacuum is created, let&#039;s make sure we know what is going to fill it.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim Roesch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Roesch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a slight difference that will tell, in this situation.

In most pre-Revolutionary cultures the middle class was usually weaponless and easy targets for the &#039;masses&#039;.

In the here and now, the middle class is rather well armed. As a former public school teacher (I now teach homeschoolers) I dare someone to back me into a moderately well stocked chemistry supply room.

You have farmers and ranchers who have probably buried machine guns and light artillery out in the back forty and, as anyone knows, they have &#039;Farmer&#039;s little Helper&#039;.

I am not sure what the military will do but I can tell you that the police in this country is outnumbered-they know it, we know it.
I can not imagine a Tehran style stalemate going down in the streets of DC.

The problem is what will the tipping point be and how much will be destroyed in the interim and what will rise from the smoke after. That third part is what worries me.

I lived through the loot shoot and scoot event of LA-1992. I saw what the Koreans did with a few pallet loads of rice, a couple of fullsized Mercedes Benzes and HKs in the .308 range.

California is ready to blow (did anyone see the Hannity interview with a certain Hispanic comedian who found out which side of the bread is buttered - his parent&#039;s farm and the sudden smelt induced lack of water...)
Screw with water in CA and you go trouble. BIG trouble. I hope ACCDF is poking around in central CA and a certain &#039;Rodriquez&#039; family farm.
If that look on Paul Rodriquez&#039;s face is any indication, Post Obama Syndrome (POS) is going to be a bitch and two thirds.

Question is, do they know it? Second question, when the dust settles and rate of fire and resupply tell the tale, what will &#039;we&#039; do then? Allow Obama-Redux?

Good post, Silversurfer...but there is going to come a time when the masks and the gloves come off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a slight difference that will tell, in this situation.</p>
<p>In most pre-Revolutionary cultures the middle class was usually weaponless and easy targets for the &#8216;masses&#8217;.</p>
<p>In the here and now, the middle class is rather well armed. As a former public school teacher (I now teach homeschoolers) I dare someone to back me into a moderately well stocked chemistry supply room.</p>
<p>You have farmers and ranchers who have probably buried machine guns and light artillery out in the back forty and, as anyone knows, they have &#8216;Farmer&#8217;s little Helper&#8217;.</p>
<p>I am not sure what the military will do but I can tell you that the police in this country is outnumbered-they know it, we know it.<br />
I can not imagine a Tehran style stalemate going down in the streets of DC.</p>
<p>The problem is what will the tipping point be and how much will be destroyed in the interim and what will rise from the smoke after. That third part is what worries me.</p>
<p>I lived through the loot shoot and scoot event of LA-1992. I saw what the Koreans did with a few pallet loads of rice, a couple of fullsized Mercedes Benzes and HKs in the .308 range.</p>
<p>California is ready to blow (did anyone see the Hannity interview with a certain Hispanic comedian who found out which side of the bread is buttered &#8211; his parent&#8217;s farm and the sudden smelt induced lack of water&#8230;)<br />
Screw with water in CA and you go trouble. BIG trouble. I hope ACCDF is poking around in central CA and a certain &#8216;Rodriquez&#8217; family farm.<br />
If that look on Paul Rodriquez&#8217;s face is any indication, Post Obama Syndrome (POS) is going to be a bitch and two thirds.</p>
<p>Question is, do they know it? Second question, when the dust settles and rate of fire and resupply tell the tale, what will &#8216;we&#8217; do then? Allow Obama-Redux?</p>
<p>Good post, Silversurfer&#8230;but there is going to come a time when the masks and the gloves come off.</p>
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		<title>By: copperpeony</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you impeach a userper??  We pay his salary, he needs to be fired. He is not the &quot;king&quot;. Period.

This country has been hijacked.

Lets take a look at Iran and how these people take care of business. They will die for their freedom. We wonâ€™t do anything here just moan, complain and be in denial. That is the difference between desperation and lackadaisical apathy. 

When people in this country will start getting arrested for absolutley nothing and losing absolutley everything they worked for to this administration, then they will wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you impeach a userper??  We pay his salary, he needs to be fired. He is not the &#8220;king&#8221;. Period.</p>
<p>This country has been hijacked.</p>
<p>Lets take a look at Iran and how these people take care of business. They will die for their freedom. We wonâ€™t do anything here just moan, complain and be in denial. That is the difference between desperation and lackadaisical apathy. </p>
<p>When people in this country will start getting arrested for absolutley nothing and losing absolutley everything they worked for to this administration, then they will wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: silversurfer</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/06/obama-big-business-and-the-fall-of-capitalism/#comment-475402</link>
		<dc:creator>silversurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First line above should read &quot;fear for my professional life.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First line above should read &#8220;fear for my professional life.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: silversurfer</title>
		<link>http://patdollard.com/2009/06/obama-big-business-and-the-fall-of-capitalism/#comment-475397</link>
		<dc:creator>silversurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I write this under a pseudonym for fear of my professional career.  I am a teacher and hope to one day become an administrator. Typically I respond using my real name.

One of the many features of Obamaism that dismays me is the acquiesence of our corporate leaders, i.e. &quot;elites&quot;.  Obama and his minions have bought off much of our industrial leadership through graft, in the form of corpoarte bailouts.  Their loss of control has been salved with pay-offs and golden handshakes and crushing regulation that will smother upstart entrepreneurs and competition.  Those who do not go along are threatened and vilified (Chrysler investors, Jim Cramer, Gerald Walpin, the IG of AmeriCorp). A select few businesses have been chosen as victors, GE, Goldmann Sachs, GM, New York Times, with NewsCorp allowed as token opposition, and a few others. Add to this list, the billionaires for &#039;Bama that bankrolled his candidacy, Soros, Buffet, the Sandlers, who will quietly profit in the shadows, gaining greater wealth and power.  Others will profit, such as ACORN, the union thugs like the leaders of the SEIU, and race hustlers who will continuously stoke the fires of class and racial strife to keep the masses divided and confused.
We are now a socialist nation with bits and pieces taken from fascism of the 1930&#039;s, the Bolshevik govenment of V.I. Lenin, post-WWII Western European socialist and post-colonialism banana republic.  The Republic of the United States of America, as designed over 200 years ago is dead.  America is no longer a nation of the people or for the people, in particular, the middle class property owners, but a nation with distinct class structure, in fact the system so many progressives accuse America of historically being.  Modern America will consist of an elite, ruling class, controlled by the &quot;old money&quot;, that long ago sided with these modern Bolsheviks from Chicago, a government royalty like the Kennedys, Gores, Dodds, Bidens, Pelosis; and a smattering of new techno elites, think the founders of Google, who will trade obedience for profit.  
Our new nation will have or has a diminished middle class, consisting largely of government employees, police, teachers, firemen, and bureaucrats(as a teacher I guess I should be happy with Obamaism)and kept obedient with promises of pay and pensions that are unsustainable. An ever-shrinking group of entrepreneurs, investors, and professionals will milked for everything they can provide.  A parasitic arrangement in which this shrinking group will be kept on life-support so as to provide the ruling class with a source of funds to support them and pay for programs that placate the great unwashed masses.  For a historical comparison, think the financial system of the Old Regime, where the bourgeoisie was driven to the breaking point by a tax system that existed largely to support the lavish lifestyle of the residents of Versailles. The largest group in the America of Obamaism will be the ever growing lower class consisting of the soon to be former &quot;illegal&quot; immigrants and those long beholden to the government for welfare and other handouts(see Obama Care for what is coming).  They will be kept ignorant by a crumbling education system, run by multi-culturalist  and enviromentalist Marxists who teach that the America of B.O.(before Obama)was constructed on racism, imperialism, and rampant greed.  The education system of present and A.O. exists largely for the growing numbers of immigrants(please look at the amount of education funding that now goes to Title I schools and English-language learners if you doubt me) who have little desire to assimilate or become part of a &quot;melting pot&quot; and those who believe the racism of middle America is to blame for all of their problems. Fabricated issues such as the governments recent apology for slavery and Jim Crow, the cult of Obama (a fly killer with moves from the Matrix) and stories of outlandish behavior by celebrities so much above us. In the &quot;new&quot; America, it is the blue-collar middle class and small business people who are the enemy, the modern &quot;Kulaks&quot;, the Ukraininan farmers who refused Stalin&#039;s demands for their land and who were crushed with bullets, famine, and visits to the Gulag Archipelago.  It is you, the people who visit sites like this one, who are the problem today.  Opposition has been largely muted by the government-media conspiracy of the MSM and the left that is the greatest cause of the &quot;new&quot; America.  At this point I do not see a return of America, as created by the Founders.  The question for us is how willing are we to play the game by the new rules and how can we, the 40% of Americans who call themselves consevative, shape the America of today and the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write this under a pseudonym for fear of my professional career.  I am a teacher and hope to one day become an administrator. Typically I respond using my real name.</p>
<p>One of the many features of Obamaism that dismays me is the acquiesence of our corporate leaders, i.e. &#8220;elites&#8221;.  Obama and his minions have bought off much of our industrial leadership through graft, in the form of corpoarte bailouts.  Their loss of control has been salved with pay-offs and golden handshakes and crushing regulation that will smother upstart entrepreneurs and competition.  Those who do not go along are threatened and vilified (Chrysler investors, Jim Cramer, Gerald Walpin, the IG of AmeriCorp). A select few businesses have been chosen as victors, GE, Goldmann Sachs, GM, New York Times, with NewsCorp allowed as token opposition, and a few others. Add to this list, the billionaires for &#8216;Bama that bankrolled his candidacy, Soros, Buffet, the Sandlers, who will quietly profit in the shadows, gaining greater wealth and power.  Others will profit, such as ACORN, the union thugs like the leaders of the SEIU, and race hustlers who will continuously stoke the fires of class and racial strife to keep the masses divided and confused.<br />
We are now a socialist nation with bits and pieces taken from fascism of the 1930&#8242;s, the Bolshevik govenment of V.I. Lenin, post-WWII Western European socialist and post-colonialism banana republic.  The Republic of the United States of America, as designed over 200 years ago is dead.  America is no longer a nation of the people or for the people, in particular, the middle class property owners, but a nation with distinct class structure, in fact the system so many progressives accuse America of historically being.  Modern America will consist of an elite, ruling class, controlled by the &#8220;old money&#8221;, that long ago sided with these modern Bolsheviks from Chicago, a government royalty like the Kennedys, Gores, Dodds, Bidens, Pelosis; and a smattering of new techno elites, think the founders of Google, who will trade obedience for profit.<br />
Our new nation will have or has a diminished middle class, consisting largely of government employees, police, teachers, firemen, and bureaucrats(as a teacher I guess I should be happy with Obamaism)and kept obedient with promises of pay and pensions that are unsustainable. An ever-shrinking group of entrepreneurs, investors, and professionals will milked for everything they can provide.  A parasitic arrangement in which this shrinking group will be kept on life-support so as to provide the ruling class with a source of funds to support them and pay for programs that placate the great unwashed masses.  For a historical comparison, think the financial system of the Old Regime, where the bourgeoisie was driven to the breaking point by a tax system that existed largely to support the lavish lifestyle of the residents of Versailles. The largest group in the America of Obamaism will be the ever growing lower class consisting of the soon to be former &#8220;illegal&#8221; immigrants and those long beholden to the government for welfare and other handouts(see Obama Care for what is coming).  They will be kept ignorant by a crumbling education system, run by multi-culturalist  and enviromentalist Marxists who teach that the America of B.O.(before Obama)was constructed on racism, imperialism, and rampant greed.  The education system of present and A.O. exists largely for the growing numbers of immigrants(please look at the amount of education funding that now goes to Title I schools and English-language learners if you doubt me) who have little desire to assimilate or become part of a &#8220;melting pot&#8221; and those who believe the racism of middle America is to blame for all of their problems. Fabricated issues such as the governments recent apology for slavery and Jim Crow, the cult of Obama (a fly killer with moves from the Matrix) and stories of outlandish behavior by celebrities so much above us. In the &#8220;new&#8221; America, it is the blue-collar middle class and small business people who are the enemy, the modern &#8220;Kulaks&#8221;, the Ukraininan farmers who refused Stalin&#8217;s demands for their land and who were crushed with bullets, famine, and visits to the Gulag Archipelago.  It is you, the people who visit sites like this one, who are the problem today.  Opposition has been largely muted by the government-media conspiracy of the MSM and the left that is the greatest cause of the &#8220;new&#8221; America.  At this point I do not see a return of America, as created by the Founders.  The question for us is how willing are we to play the game by the new rules and how can we, the 40% of Americans who call themselves consevative, shape the America of today and the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Mose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Mose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a chance on gun legislation. No one will give up weapons with the nut job Soetoro in the WH. In fact as every day goes by  Obama&#039;s Marxism is on display and he identifies himself. Reid and Pelosi too. There are at lease 35 states claiming sovereignty from the Democratic Party controlled government.  

Where is Petraous and our heroes?  Anyone at Cent Com read this Blog. Count on it. It is time to expect Obama, Reid and Pelosi&#039;s next made up crisis. 

There will be blood and there will be 535 trials for treason unless the blue dogs join the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a chance on gun legislation. No one will give up weapons with the nut job Soetoro in the WH. In fact as every day goes by  Obama&#8217;s Marxism is on display and he identifies himself. Reid and Pelosi too. There are at lease 35 states claiming sovereignty from the Democratic Party controlled government.  </p>
<p>Where is Petraous and our heroes?  Anyone at Cent Com read this Blog. Count on it. It is time to expect Obama, Reid and Pelosi&#8217;s next made up crisis. </p>
<p>There will be blood and there will be 535 trials for treason unless the blue dogs join the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you have the number of this bill?</description>
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		<title>By: unkaglen</title>
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		<dc:creator>unkaglen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 15:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:beer:  :beer:  :beer:  :gun:  :gun:  :gun:</description>
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