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Sign Of The Times: California Could End Welfare Due To Insurmountable Budget Defecit



Jun 8, 2009 47 Comments ›› Erik Wong

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The Sacramento Bee:

Could California become the first state in the nation to do away with welfare?

That doomsday scenario is on the table as lawmakers wrestle with a staggering $24.3 billion budget deficit.

County welfare directors are “in shock” at the very idea of getting rid of CalWORKs, which has been widely viewed as one of the most successful social programs in the state’s history, said Bruce Wagstaff, director of the Department of Human Assistance in Sacramento.

“It’s difficult to come up with the right adjective to react to this,” Wagstaff said. “It would be devastating to the people we serve.”

H.D. Palmer, a spokesman for the state Department of Finance, said California is in an unprecedented fiscal situation that has made all programs, from education to human services, vulnerable to deep and painful reductions.

“I don’t wish for a moment to minimize the profound impact” that eliminating CalWORKs would have, Palmer said. “But the easy decisions are way past being in the rearview mirror for us. We face the specter of California not having cash on hand to pay its bills in July.”

Wagstaff and other administrators are betting that the state will rescue the “welfare to work” program. But they are bracing for cuts that would slash benefits to the lowest levels since the late 1990s, when CalWORKs began as part of the federal government’s bold reform of the welfare system.

“It would be a huge regression,” said Nancy O’Hara, assistant director of the Yolo County Department of Employment and Social Services. “My mind reels just thinking about all of this.”

California would save $157 million in the general fund by cutting CalWORKs altogether, according to the County Welfare Directors Association. But the group warns that the state would lose some $620 million in federal funds for the program. Palmer put the projected federal loss much higher, at $3.7 billion.

The association argues that eliminating CalWORKs would force thousands of families into homelessness, hurt the state economically and put added pressure on already strapped county assistance programs.

“No other state has eliminated all aid to dependent children, and no other First World country that we are aware of has no safety net for poor families,” said Frank Mecca, the group’s executive director. “There really is no fallback, especially given the financial condition that most counties are in.”

O’Hara predicted higher rates of child abuse and abandonment if CalWORKs were to disappear.

“I can see it happening, like it did during the Great Depression when people could no longer provide for their children,” O’Hara said. “I have not allowed myself to think about it in detail. I’m holding out hope that this won’t happen.”

CalWORKs, which replaced Aid to Families with Dependent Children in California, serves some 525,000 families each month, Mecca said. Welfare caseloads have dropped by half since its inception, he said, although recently they have begun to creep up again because of the wobbly economy.

“CalWORKs represents a real cultural change in the way welfare programs operate, and it’s worked. It has proven to be a success,” Wagstaff said. “People have gotten jobs. We have seen good outcomes for kids. Poverty rates have gone down. It’s almost unthinkable to imagine taking this step backwards.”

In Sacramento County, 33,500 families receive CalWORKs benefits, including more than 62,000 children, Wagstaff said. A family of three gets a monthly check of $689, plus food stamps. But CalWORKs does more than simply issue checks, he pointed out. It helps people, many of whom have depended on public assistance for years, learn new skills and get jobs, with subsidies for child care.

“Even as the unemployment rate was going up, we were still putting thousands of people to work,” said Wagstaff. “I would argue that when the economy is down, the need for these kinds of services is higher than ever.”

Roxanne Morales, 44, lived off welfare “for many years” and credits CalWORKs with turning her life around.

When she learned more than a decade ago that the rules for welfare were changing and she would have to get a job or go to school to retain her benefits, Morales panicked.

“I had my first child at 16,” she said. “I had never had a job before. I had no clue. But they pushed me, and I am ever so glad they did.”

Today Morales has risen from customer service representative to field supervisor at Maximus Inc., which helps state and local governments manage programs such as Medi-Cal. She is financially independent and happy, she said.

“I would not be in this position today if not for CalWORKs,” said Morales. “There is no way they can eliminate this program.”

Wagstaff, who helped craft CalWORKs, said he is confident it will survive. “We have no instructions from anyone about shutting it down,” he said. “But something big likely is going to happen.”

Mecca agreed.

“It’s been gratifying to hear from people on both sides of the aisle that eliminating CalWORKs would be unacceptable,” said Mecca. “But the magnitude of the state’s fiscal problems and the politics in Sacramento are such that we have to take every proposal seriously.”

An earlier state budget proposal called for a 6 percent cut in CalWORKs grants, on top of a 4 percent cut scheduled to take effect July 1. It would have eliminated aid to children whose parents are being cut off because they’ve reached their 60-month time limits for welfare assistance, among other things.

Those cuts might seem palatable next to a proposal to eliminate CalWORKs entirely, Mecca said.

“There is a prevailing view that folks are being softened up for very serious, but less egregious, cuts,” he said. “But if that’s the strategy, it’s reckless and irresponsible.”

Palmer said the proposal is no bluff.

“This is not a test,” he said.


  • NickD (ensignricky71)

    Cry me a F*(kin’ river.

    “many of whom have depended on public assistance for years”

    THAT IS THE PROBLEM!!! This system is constantly being abused. Kill it off, end the fraud and take are of the people who need REAL help, and not just the slackers.

  • bill-tb

    So they would then have to go back over the border?

    • mike3481

      Uh-huh.

      :wink:

      :beer:

    • tlk

      Maybe not..they might just migrate to another state like Illinois for instance.

  • http://www.dirtydozensbunker.com Sanders

    That ought to be interesting.

    They must have gotten assurances from Obongo that the Fedgov will pick up the tab.

    • mike3481

      Yeah, with Monopoly Money. :roll:

    • Mike Mose

      The Muslim Trash has assured Calif that the federal government will take over control of any and all states on a “temporary” basics. The Muslim Trash is looking for the crisis necessary to announce “Marshall Law”

      The Democrats are manufacturing the crisis that will destroy freedom.

      They think that they can shoot rats at their leisure from their front porch (DC).

    • prestonbrooks

      :arrow: Right on- with taxpayer $$ from the other 49.

  • Lock and Load

    Perhaps AH-NULD has been on a secret conservative mission, to TERMINATE the welfare system, by creating a huge crisis….. sound familiar :?: :shock: :twisted:

  • BTjoe112

    Just stop paying any-thing and every-thing to the illegals. No school, meds wicks, nothing.

    • sassysuz

      That would save California a little more than half the budget deficit, if they eliminated all those programs to illegals. Stop the Sanctuary City bullshit eliminating Billions of fraud on Hospitals. By eliminating all the illegal Day labor, they would get people to pay taxes for working. They loose billions in tax revenue because of illegals. Not to mention billions in credit card fraud, sending cash back to Mexico with yours and my credit card numbers.

      SYMPATHY have non for California, they have to make hard choices. A federal bailout is a very bad choice, that makes all of us pay for California’s stupidity

  • ground wizard

    i’ll believe when i see it! until then i’ll enjoy a :beer:

    • bill-tb

      LOL … me too. Then the Mexicans would have to go back over the border.

  • http://deleted tedders

    “Just stop paying any-thing and every-thing to the illegals. No school, meds wicks, nothing.”

    No BT that’s not right, buy ‘em a one way ticket back across the border!! ; D

    I’m with ground wizard on this one!

  • Dark Night’s daughter

    If, no when… that happens here in this little territory of St. Croix…all I can think of is

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOonyDjTdyc&feature=related

    It won’t be pretty.

  • RockyMtn1776

    The Feds will bail out Mexifornia, then other states will require the same. Will they realize they they have handed over total control of their state to the government? Probably, but the entitlement programs must contine at any cost. If they ever stop, the riots start and cities burn across the nation.

    • Specter

      I’m inclined to agree 100% :mad:

    • sassysuz

      That’s why you need firearms and many rounds of ammunition. The police will be overwhelmed.

    • falconfixer

      +1000 The Feds will let California sweat for a while, then when California is ready to do ANYTHING to avoid the abyss, the Fed will step in with money for certain, shall we say, cooperation.

  • Marc

    I forgot where I heard this recently but it sums up my thoughts on welfare of any sort, “I am for helping the truly helpless, but not the clueless”.

    If the California legislature were absolutely honest with themselves and just cut all programs that they are making available to ILLEGAL Immigrants, do it in the dead of night like they do with their raises, it would be a substantial step towards bridging their budget shortfalls.

    • NickD(ensignricky71)

      I believe it was Dennis Miller who said that.

  • John

    See the fix is simple….end welfare=plenty of jobs for them in farmwork=illegals on the bus back home=savings all around. Ya know people did survive before welfare was “invented.”

  • ji

    Let them riot. A lot of them died in the riots. (Thankyou legal gun owners)
    And they only riot in their own hoods.

  • Xavier

    “And they only riot in their own hoods.”

    LOL riot & burn down their own shit, ‘that will show’em how mad we are!’

  • SlimReed

    The biggest welfare recipients are unionized. But it will be much, much easier to cast off the poor, than those whose jobs lo’ these many decades have come directly from the legislators. It’s a symbiotic relationship: both require an ever expanding public trough from which to feed, but the one doesn’t get to unless elected by the other.

  • Badger

    This is Liberal ground zero Gang.

    California is the great lib experiment.

    This is going to be the United States after Obama gets done with it. Who is going to stop him? He’s spent more of our money in 90 days than in all History. This man has 3 1/2 years to go.

    I have no answers. We can bitch over the net all we want but who is going to make this stop or is this not going to stop?

    • SgtJenz

      “California is the great lib experiment.”
      Exactly and it is failing miserably.

      People are moving out of this state in droves, problem is so are libs. They’re all a bunch of locusts moving from one green field to next destroying everything in their paths.

    • falconfixer

      You’re exactly right Sgt. Jenz, You would think that the people that leave the failed state of California would realize that their libtard policies turned the “Golden State” into a third world hell-hole, but the California transplants we are getting out here in the west seem to want to implement the same crappy policies all over again, expecting a different outcome THIS time. Pure insanity.

  • http://iraqsinconvenienttruth.com Dan2
    • nospyme

      Hmmm….I’m going to have to read Common Sense by Thomas Paine.

  • Badger

    Dan….

    I’m afraid so…..

    Peace……

    Badger

  • solomonpal

    “It would be a huge regression,” said Nancy O’Hara, assistant director of the Yolo County Department of Employment and Social Services. “My mind reels just thinking about all of this.”
    ——————————————————-
    Yeah right…like what are you going to do now you get laid off the gubmint tit…?

  • USMCTANKS

    In CA we passed prop 187 in 1994. the basic points of the prop were:

    1. All law enforcement agents who suspect that a person who has been arrested is in violation of immigration laws must investigate the detainee’s immigration status, and if they find evidence of illegality they must report it to the attorney general of California, and to the federal Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS).
    2. Local governments are prohibited from doing anything to impair the fulfillment of this requirement.
    3. The attorney general must keep records on all such cases and make them available to any other government entity that wishes to inspect them.
    4. No one may receive public benefits until they have proven their legal right to reside in the country.
    5. If government agents suspected anyone applying for benefits of being illegal immigrants, the agents must report their suspicions in writing to the appropriate enforcement authorities.
    6. Emergency medical care is exempted, as required by federal law, but all other medical benefits have the requirements stated above.
    7. Primary and secondary education is explicitly included.

    In 1998 prop 187 was ruled unconstitutional by a federal court, with appeals against the judgement being halted by Governor Gray Davis.

    If the will of the people had been allowed to stand CA would not be in trouble today

    For some real eyeopening info on the cost of the illegal bastards here in OUR COUNTRY, take a few min’s to read this from Factcheck : http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/do_illegal_immigrants_cost_3383_billion_dollars.html

  • TerryTate

    So.

  • Tim Roesch

    Having stood on a street corner (Kingsley and Santa Monica) during the 1992 Loot Shoot and Scoot Competition I can tell you that standing on a street corner with a shotgun and a .44 while pieces of ash the size of sheets of paper, gunfire in the background and the glow of fires tinging the sky in a major city is not something you want to ‘enjoy’. Every now and again, I still smell it.

    Be very careful what you wish for.

    As to CA and prop 187…you will sow what you reap and the Mexicans will not simply go back to Mexico.
    First, Mexico might not take them back and second they will riot and they will burn large parts of CA down. Think Viva Azteca.

    I think you are seeing the very merest beginnings of the second American Revolution.

    • falconfixer

      So we just hand the country over to the third world then?

    • Tim Roesch

      Nope Falconfixer, I am just saying that it will not be pretty (which I am sure most of you are aware of).

      In previous posts there was a great deal of talk about ‘sending the illegals home’.

      That will not happen. They will fight.

      CA ACCDF, please keep us informed.

  • tarantula

    want more? subsidize it. want less? tax it.

  • Chuck O

    You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The gov’t. cannot give to anybody anything that the gov’t. doesn’t first take from somebody else. When half the people get the idea that they don’t have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You can’t multiply wealth by dividing it.-Adrian Rogers

  • Mike Mose

    The Muslim Trash has assured Calif that the federal government will take over control of any and all states on a “temporary” basics. The Muslim Trash is looking for the crisis necessary to announce “Marshall Law”

    The Democrats are manufacturing the crisis that will destroy freedom.

    They think that they can shoot rats at their leisure from their front porch (DC).

  • FIU Alum

    Come on guys “diversity” is our strength :mrgreen:

  • http://earthlink nomee 1

    well one can only hope, they shut down welfare, but with obambi, who knows :!:

  • Specter

    http://tipstrategies.com/archive/geography-of-jobs/

    Watch this video folks, at the end you’ll see what the stimulus has done.

    Send this one to your friends and family, especially the one’s on funemployment.

    You can even see Katrina hit, and then the rebuild.

  • http://www.accdf.com aboutTObegin

    who woulda thunk?!?!?! that by supporting illegals with tax paying citizens hard earned cash would cause an imbalance in the California budget which would end up like this???? who woulda thunk… seems like the idiots that are balancing the budget in California also do the same for the Federal Government…no wonder we are going under! HEY I have an idea, lets spend 2 trillion more and call it a Stimulus Bill in order to save the economy. Since that Bill passed, we lost 1.6 million jobs, so in order to save face, the usurper says he is going to save 600k jobs….again, lopsided math from the idiots in charge. I say we clean all the Government, flush all the crap down the toilet and start over with our Constitution!

    -aTb

  • Tyler

    Its about damn time!

    We can all safely assume that rioting and violence will follow any actions to cease welfare (which will show the true colors of people who depend on it)

  • dilly

    put steal bars on your windows folks, the ngrs are coming

  • Rod

    We wouldn’t need to cut as much from the programs if we actually had a signed contract with a private organization to run Calworks. Instead of signing a long term contract, the county is spending way more on month-to-month extentions. Let’s get the ball rolling, sign a contract and start putting the tax payers money to good use.