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“An Alarming Trend For The White House”: Independents Desert Obama – “Especially In Key States”



Jul 9, 2009 16 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

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Politico:

In a potentially alarming trend for the White House, independent voters are deserting President Barack Obama nationally and especially in key swing states, recent polls suggest.

Obama’s job approval rating hit a — still healthy — low of 56 percent in the Gallup Poll on Wednesday. And pollsters are debating whether Obama’s expansive and expensive policy proposals or the ground-level realities of a still-faltering economy are driving the falling numbers.

But a source of the shift appears to be independent voters, who seem to be responding to Republican complaints of excessive spending and government control.

“This is a huge sea change that is playing itself out in American politics,” said Democratic pollster Doug Schoen. “Independents who had become effectively operational Democrats in 2006 and 2008 are now up for grabs and are trending Republican.

“They’re saying, ‘Costing too much, no results, see the downside, not sure of the upside,’” he said.

The White House denies there’s been any real shift.

“The independent numbers I have seen, public and private, have been relatively steady,” Obama’s senior political adviser, David Axelrod, said in an e-mail.

Another political adviser dismissed small state polls as statistically questionable and pointed out that Obama’s own numbers remain strong, by historical standards — with an average 59 percent approval rating among independents in June, according to Gallup.

Pollsters from both parties debate the numbers’ meaning, but averages of public polls have shown a gentle downward trend.

Obama retains extremely strong support from Democrats, and earlier this year lost much of the Republican support that followed a giddy Inauguration. It is the independents who appear to be currently on the move: Obama dropped 6 percentage points last week from the week before in Gallup’s tracking poll, and Quinnipiac University found a 5-percentage-point drop in approval from independents between early June and early July. Recent state polling shows drops over longer periods.

A Quinnipiac University poll of voters in economically troubled Ohio, released Tuesday, showed Obama’s approval rating slipping 8 points, to below 50 percent, from a poll two months earlier, with a plurality of 48 percent of independent voters disapproving of his job performance. A Public Policy Polling survey in Virginia found Obama’s approval and disapproval numbers effectively tied, with independents disapproving of the president’s job performance, 52 percent to 38 percent.

“That is fairly consistent with all our polling around the country — Obama tends to be really well-liked personally, but he’s starting to lose a majority of the independents,” said Public Policy’s Dean Debnam. Democrats have “had long enough in some voters’ minds that they’re getting blame for nothing happening, and Republicans are scaring them around health care and tax increases.”

Pollsters differ on the degree to which the independents’ migration is driven by Obama’s policies, rather than the broader economic downturn. “Local politics is local politics, and I don’t see an awful lot of spillover from D.C. into the state races,” said Debnam.

And Obama, of course, isn’t up for reelection anytime soon, and even nervous Democratic congressmen can keep their fingers crossed for economic recovery over the next year.

“It’s been more or less inevitable that we’re going to see some decline in numbers for Democrats,” said Mark Mellman, another Democratic pollster. “For most folks, there’s not an election until 2010, and most economists suggest that by the time we get to 2010, we’re going to see the beginnings of an uptick in the economy.”

Republicans, however, see a longer-term opportunity, and congressional leaders like Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) have for months been laying the groundwork for an argument that Obama’s policies are both expensive and ineffectual — an argument that will have powerful sway as long as voters don’t feel a recovery.

The canaries in the Democratic coal mine, however, may be this year’s top candidates: Gov. Jon Corzine of New Jersey, who trails Republican Chris Christie in polls, and Virginia Democrat Creigh Deeds, who trailed Republican Bob McDonnell overall in this week’s Public Policy survey, and by a whopping 21 percentage points among independents.

In both races, local and national issues will be hard to disentangle — but McDonnell, particularly, is trying to turn the tables on Democratic candidates who in recent years tried to make every race a referendum on George W. Bush’s presidency.

“A lot of issues, such as cap and trade and card check, are really resonating with Virginia voters, and what they see is Bob McDonnell clearly articulating his opposition to them, and Creigh Deeds is silent, which is basically supporting them,” said McDonnell spokesman Tucker Martin.

McDonnell’s campaign sees particular potential in the coal-rich western part of the state, whose industry could suffer from policies aimed at shifting the country away from fossil fuels.

A Deeds spokesman, Jared Leopold, stressed his candidate’s commitment to state issues and said Deeds doesn’t have a position on the cap-and-trade bill.

“As things are being worked out in the House and Senate, he’s not going to deal with which version of a 1,200-page bill is up,” Leopold said.

Furthermore, he noted, despite some signs of Democratic weak spots, the opposition is even less popular on key issues.

“The national Republican brand is not in good shape,” Leopold said.

Still, Republican analysts said they see the beginnings of an opportunity to use White House policies — if not Obama himself — against Democratic candidates this year and next.

“What’s happening now is that as these issues get debated more and more and as their fiscal implications become more and more clear, independents are starting to side more with Republicans than Democrats,” said pollster Whit Ayres.

Another Republican pollster, John McLaughlin, pointed to his own surveys in January and May asking whether voters would prefer their members of Congress to “help Barack Obama pass his agenda” or to be a “check and balance to Barack Obama.”

The May survey found a majority favoring the check and balance, marking a 17-point shift from January, a shift the pollster said was driven in large part by independents.

For Democratic candidates in New Jersey and, in particular, Virginia, the affections of independents may be linked to those voters’ perceptions of the White House.

“We are seeing it in Virginia and New Jersey and around the country — independents are behaving like Republicans again on certain issues, and it’s because Democrats’ policy seems to be at odds with where people are — and if they don’t work, they’re really going to be at odds,” McLaughlin said.

Independent voters, it appears, now need to feel tangible evidence that Obama’s policies work. Rhetoric is no longer enough.

“If you see unemployment keep rising or doesn’t go down, you’re going to see those independents continuing to shift,” McLaughlin said.


  • unkaglen

    How long does this fool think Americans will sleep before they awaken to the absolutely destructive policies he is trying to institute? The prince is fixn’ to kiss sleepn’ beauty,and we all know what that means.. :lol:

  • copperpeony

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    http://www.numbersusa.com/content/congress/phone-numbers-and-mailing-addresses-memb.html

    • copperpeony

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    • escapedcommieny

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  • josephus

    So Obama won by what? 5 million votes?

    FIVE MILLION in play. Not a big number to make up.
    And the fact that 47 million supported a weak, wishy-washy “conservative” in McCain means that 47 million voted NO TO SOCIALISM (although really it was no to Marxism).

    Obama’s people know this. And that’s why he has his own personal organization (or cult) and he’s feeding BILLIONS OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS to ACORN.

    I think we see what’s coming…we’ll get a taste in 2010…and we’ll see it full blast in 2012…but this will be the most contested, most fraudulent election in US history. If Obama wins in 2012, it will be through sheer and utter third-world level filth.

    • Trialdog

      “Sheer and utter third-world level filth” is the goal my friend. However, as unemployment goes to 10%, then 11%, and remains high through 2010, there may be real change in congress. The question then is how much being able to blame republicans in congress for whatever happens in 2011 will help Obama. Probably not much. Unemployment will remain high and the costs of everything will skyrocket. Inflation will be a real problem, or perhaps stagflation. The radical baby boomers who were enthralled with Obama the wonder boy may wake up and notice their 401K’s are shit. Struck down then inflated away. The effects of Marxism may not be well received as they keep working and delay retirement.

  • toldyouso

    http://www.adaction.org/pages/posts/real-rate-of-unemployment-at-16.5222.php

    Real rate of unemployment 16.5%. Direct from a lib site

  • http://twitter.com/RTHTGakaRoland Roland

    I admit that utter contempt is of limited use in persuasion, but really how ignorant were these people to need to live the failure to believe that it would occur. :roll:

  • ArchInfidel

    Rasmussen has his approval at 51% in daily tracking and aproval index at -8 now, I think that is on drudge. Look for him to start hugging babies when he gets back, if dems listen to one thing it is polls.

    • copperpeony

      His rating was 62% in May down to 49% today on the news. This should be interesting although I don’t think he cares. As I said before, his ass in in the WH and no one has the power to move it so he won’t much care about the polls.

    • JayMS

      No, I think Obama cares very deeply. This dude is ALL about image. Once the “messiah” shit wears off he has nothing.

  • steve m (yet Another Infidel!)

    The emperor has no clothes…

  • Moultrie

    I fear that BHO is already counting on just 1 term and out and thus does not care about polls except as how they may hinder his big programs because of Dem reps’ heartburn about reelection!

  • KC

    BHO may or may not care about the poll numbers but an ever growing number of democrat reps in the house and senate do. No matter how badly he wants to, BHO can not write law. Thank you founding fathers.

  • JayMS

    Sure, this makes perfect sense to me. I have noticed in many quarters a slow, but steady and profound shift on how people feel about Obama. Now that Bush is history the Obamatards can’t shift the blame. The believed in him and put their faith in him and he let them down. Plus conservative groups are getting organized and ready to fight.

    BHO has a target on his back. The only real worry I have is congress passing amnesty to secure a large permanent underclass voting dem.

    • Mark Gibbons

      If congress passes amnesty-That will be the calling card to set the gallows up at the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and march these political turds out. No matter what fucking party .