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“Confronted By Boiling Anger”: Town Halls Gone Wild



Jul 31, 2009 23 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

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Politico:

Screaming constituents, protesters dragged out by the cops, congressmen fearful for their safety — welcome to the new town-hall-style meeting, the once-staid forum that is rapidly turning into a house of horrors for members of Congress.

On the eve of the August recess, members are reporting meetings that have gone terribly awry, marked by angry, sign-carrying mobs and disruptive behavior. In at least one case, a congressman has stopped holding town hall events because the situation has spiraled so far out of control.

“I had felt they would be pointless,” Rep. Tim Bishop (D-N.Y.) told POLITICO, referring to his recent decision to suspend the events in his Long Island district. “There is no point in meeting with my constituents and [to] listen to them and have them listen to you if what is basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”

In Bishop’s case, his decision came on the heels of a June 22 event he held in Setauket, N.Y., in which protesters dominated the meeting by shouting criticisms at the congressman for his positions on energy policy, health care and the bailout of the auto industry.

Within an hour of the disruption, police were called in to escort the 59-year-old Democrat — who has held more than 100 town hall meetings since he was elected in 2002 — to his car safely.

“I have no problem with someone disagreeing with positions I hold,” Bishop said, noting that, for the time being, he was using other platforms to communicate with his constituents. “But I also believe no one is served if you can’t talk through differences.”

Bishop isn’t the only one confronted by boiling anger and rising incivility. At a health care town hall event in Syracuse, N.Y., earlier this month, police were called in to restore order, and at least one heckler was taken away by local police. Close to 100 sign-carrying protesters greeted Rep. Allen Boyd (D-Fla.) at a late June community college small-business development forum in Panama City, Fla. Last week, Danville, Va., anti-tax tea party activists claimed they were “refused an opportunity” to ask Rep. Thomas Perriello (D-Va.) a question at a town hall event and instructed by a plainclothes police officer to leave the property after they attempted to hold up protest signs.

The targets in most cases are House Democrats, who over the past few months have tackled controversial legislation including a $787 billion economic stimulus package, a landmark energy proposal and an overhaul of the nation’s health care system.

Democrats, acknowledging the increasing unruliness of the town-hall-style events, say the hot-button issues they are taking on have a lot to do with it.

“I think it’s just the fact that we are dealing with some of the most important public policy issues in a generation,” said Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa), who was confronted by a protester angry about his position on health care reform at a town hall event several weeks ago.

“I think in general what is going on is we are tackling issues that have been ignored for a long time, and I think that is disruptive to a lot of people,” said Bishop, a four-term congressman. “We are trying, one by one, to deal with a set of issues that can’t be ignored, and I think that’s unsettling to a lot of people.”

Freshman Rep. Dan Maffei (D-N.Y.), whose event at a Syracuse middle school was disrupted, said that he still planned to hold additional town halls but that he was also thinking about other options.

“I think you’ve got to communicate through a variety of different ways. You should do the telephone town hall meetings. You should do the town hall meetings. You should do the smaller group meetings,” said Maffei. “It’s important to do things in a variety of ways, so you don’t have one mode of communication.”

“You’re going to have people of varying views, and in this case, you’ve got the two extremes who were the most vocal,” Maffei said of the flare-up at his July 12 event.

On Tuesday, Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who handles incumbent retention duties for House Democrats in addition to chairing the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, met with freshman members to discuss their plans for the monthlong August recess. While the specific issue of town hall protesters never came up, according to sources familiar with the meeting, he urged them not to back away from opponents.

“He said, ‘Go on offense. Stay on the offense. It’s really important that your constituents hear directly from you. You shouldn’t let a day go by [that] your constituents don’t hear from you,’” said one House Democratic leadership aide familiar with the meeting.

Some members profess to enjoy the give-and-take of the town halls, even if lately it’s become more take than give.

“Town halls are a favorite part of my job,” said Rep. Russ Carnahan (D-Mo.), a third-term congressman from St. Louis who noted that a “handful” of disruptions had taken place at his meetings. “It’s what I do. It’s what I will continue to do.”

“People have gotten fired up and all that, but I think that’s what makes town halls fun,” said Perriello, a freshman who is among the most vulnerable Democrats in 2010. “I think that most of the time when we get out there, it’s a good chance for people to vent and offer their thoughts. It’s been good.”

“I enjoy it, and people have a chance to speak their mind,” he said.

Both Carnahan and Perriello said they were plunging forward with plans to hold more town hall meetings.

Republicans, with an eye toward 2010, are keeping close track of the climate at Democratic events.

“We’ve seen Russ Carnahan, we’ve seen Tim Bishop, we’ve seen some other people face some very different crowds back home,” said National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas). “The days of you having a town hall meeting where maybe 15 or 20 of your friends show up — they’re over. You’ve now got real people who are showing up — and that’s going to be a factor.”

Asked later how or whether the GOP would use the confrontations against Democrats, Sessions responded: “Wait till next year.”

But Democrats are quick to point out they’re not the only ones facing hostile audiences. They single out Rep. Mike Castle (R-Del.), who found himself in a confrontation earlier this month with a “birther” protester, and insist that Republicans face a backlash of their own if it appears the party is too closely aligned with tea party activists or other conservative-oriented protesters.

“It’s a risk that they align themselves with such a small minority in the party,” said Brian Smoot, who served as political director at the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the past election cycle. “They risk alienating moderates.”


  • BTjoe112

    Hey Congress men(women) welcome to the real world you ass holes. The people are pissed and you still are not listening. See you in the unemployment line next year you jagoffs.

  • Ivan the Kafir

    Give ‘em Hell!!!! :twisted:

  • neofish

    Great place to recruit more ACTIVE ists!

  • GRIZZ

    ..”no one is served if you cant talk thru differences”,STFU.We are done hearing you talk douchebag.It might be time for you to get a fire extinguisher

    • Dean, aka SgtJenz

      :beer: :beer: :gun:

  • YERMOM

    fear for their safety is code for we arent going to listen to you, and we will use this as a way to shut down debate, claim no one said they didnt want this bullshit, and do what Comrade Pelosi and Obama tell us to do.

    Fuck em.

    if they vote for this healthcare bill they better be though.

    :gun: :gun: :gun:

  • PatriotofPast(Thomas)

    “I have no problem with someone disagreeing with positions I hold,”

    Hey ASSHOLE… You work for THE PEOPLE!!!! What YOU think is irrelavent!

  • http://www.yankeemom.com yankeemom

    Interesting use of the word “mob”. Never heard that word used about all the anti-Bush protesters.

    Funny how indignant they are when the anger and “criticisms” are turned in their direction. Guess they thought they were above any confrontation after all the years of owning the streets by the lefties. Silly Socialists!

    House of Horrors? They haven’t seen nothin’ yet.

  • Bobachek

    The easy ride is over you political hacks….

    Welcome to the real world where people are pissed off…

  • Xavier

    “I had felt they would be pointless,” Rep. Tim Bishop (D-N.Y.)

    “congressmen fearful for their safety”

    When you don’t listen to the people you represent and act on their best interest; you’re damn right it would be pointless.

    And the representatives and senators are right to be fearful; the American people are the ones who revolted against England, who helped defeat Germany in both WWs, and who freed thousands of people across the world from dictators & tyranny.

    • David

      Millions not thousands. And at the cost of American blood!

  • copperpeony

    Time to start writing letters to Politico again when the crooks get back from their kindergarten recess. All of them read that rag every morning.

  • http://SteveR Paul Phillips

    When Congress and the President start screwing with our health care they are on thin ice. Obama is turning
    this country into a Communist Nation and as a military
    retire I has fought in three wars for this country and
    the last two Korea was lost because Democrats can’t win wars. Truman fired MacArthur stupidily and we lost
    the North of Communists. In Vietnam, Johnson/MacNamar
    micromanaged the war and we lost 50pilots and 55,000
    men because of their stupid control of the military.
    Tell the military what you want to do and get out of way.

  • JJIrons

    I’ll tell you what. When the “silent majority” gets whizzed off, that’s when *real* trouble can happen. That’s because the mainstream Americans finally get fed up and sheer numbers will overpower the injustice being spewed about. It is now time, in fact past time to kick some Libtard ass. If we don’t take FULL advantage at every Town Hall meeting, phone calls, and emails, etc., and determinedly make our minds known, then we have no one to blame but ourselves. The ONLY language these turncoats understand is defeat at the voting booth. Once they KNOW they will lose in the next election if they support this communist liberal assault on America, they will start to back down. As of yet, they haven’t received enough backlash from us to listen. It’s time to take the reigns back.

  • Winston

    What happened in this country on 11/08 was a non-violent coup d’état. For a two year Senator with little or no experience to rise into power as fast as he did needed lots of money, power and influence. See George Soros.
    They found a man of African American decent they could package and market like an Iphone and sold it to 54% of registered(?maybe) American voters.
    They have recruited their armies from American Universities, and non-profits to go out and register legal and illegal voters.
    From ACORN to Americorp to the new NYC Civic Corp where 193 individuals (paid volunteers) have been instructed to go out among the masses and recruit 100 more and have them go out and recruit 100 more. All on our Tax dollars, disguised as a Stimulus Package.
    Now they are ramming and cramming their socialist agenda down our throats, blitzkrieging American citizens at an ever alarming rate.
    Will the poor or minorities be better for it. NO but they will be made to think so. The wealthy liberal elites will become more powerful. Running corporations and banks feeding minorities crumps from their dinner table at the expense of the “silent majority”.
    If little or no change occurs in 2010, these socialist will be entrenched and dug in so deep you will need an act of God to get them out.
    Remember no matter what anyone tells you, Obama or Barry is NOT a smart man. He is a product of affirmative action.

    • copperpeony

      Don’t forget the Fed Reserve is part of the plan too. Those bankers hold all the power. Soros is only a little notch in the huge cog that is running this country.

  • Kirk

    Obviously, they are shocked to learn that not everybody agreed with them, but they still don’t get it. Political delusions of reality. :shock:

  • Kearny432

    Rep. Tim Bishop (D-N.Y.) told POLITICO, ….basically an unruly mob prevents you from having an intelligent conversation.”

    Essentially what every conservative guest speaker faces when trying to guest lecture at most colleges and universities. F’ing sniveler.

  • tlk

    Do us all a favor – drop the Progressive Ad —–>

    Part of the Obama network.

    • copperpeony

      This is google generated and not part of Pat’s agenda. Google will keep our comments on there servers for a long long time, plus they read all the gmails and keep those forever for Obama’s agenda. Thank Napolitano and her secret internet police.

  • frank

    The democraps don’t care what the people want! They don’t work for us they work for their comrades in the party and for special interest who can funnel money into their off shore bank accounts. The media will dumb us down and shut us up, football seasone starts soon, grab a six and go brain dead it will all be over soon.

  • David

    I have been sayingf for months, “Vote the WHORES out.” Democrats and Republicans. It makes no difference. They are all WHORES. They care only about the next election. They do not care about the people who put them in office once they get there. I will say it again, “Vote the WHORES out!”.

  • http://WorldsBestResumes.com Judith, typical White Ohioan

    I say send ten million watermelons that tick to the Whitehouse and Congress. Maybe they will get that message.