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	<title>Comments on: F-35s FOUR YEARS Behind Schedule, No One Told Until After Vote On F-22 Budget</title>
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		<title>By: Sully</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the best chest-thumpers... er, minds at places like MIT, not anytime particularly soon.
Two to four generations away IF nothing impedes the advancement of technology like only government can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the best chest-thumpers&#8230; er, minds at places like MIT, not anytime particularly soon.<br />
Two to four generations away IF nothing impedes the advancement of technology like only government can.</p>
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		<title>By: lastconservativeblackmanonearth</title>
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		<dc:creator>lastconservativeblackmanonearth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. I&#039;ve read a lot of chest-beating here. I&#039;m about as gung-ho as any ... and I&#039;ve got my retirement and medals to prove it.

But the uncomfortable question is this: are tactical aircraft based on an outdated Cold War planning  model? Are UCAVs REALLY what is needed? (especially to more adequately protect the &#039;sensitivities&#039; and asses of our future warriors?)

Let me slip into silly-mode for just a sec.: remember the Terminator movie series? Well, ultimately, robots (&#039;battle-bots&#039;) are where we&#039;re going. I think remote sensors and vehicles are the next wave ... and not just for economics, either: but high-ground and upper-hand.

So, I&#039;ll stick my neck out and say manned aircraft are playing a rapidly diminishing role in future combat.

What say-eth thee?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. I&#8217;ve read a lot of chest-beating here. I&#8217;m about as gung-ho as any &#8230; and I&#8217;ve got my retirement and medals to prove it.</p>
<p>But the uncomfortable question is this: are tactical aircraft based on an outdated Cold War planning  model? Are UCAVs REALLY what is needed? (especially to more adequately protect the &#8216;sensitivities&#8217; and asses of our future warriors?)</p>
<p>Let me slip into silly-mode for just a sec.: remember the Terminator movie series? Well, ultimately, robots (&#8216;battle-bots&#8217;) are where we&#8217;re going. I think remote sensors and vehicles are the next wave &#8230; and not just for economics, either: but high-ground and upper-hand.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ll stick my neck out and say manned aircraft are playing a rapidly diminishing role in future combat.</p>
<p>What say-eth thee?</p>
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		<title>By: Ty520</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ty520</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As advanced and fantastic as the F22 is, it is economically inefficient, and requires 30 hours of ground service for every hour in the air.

regardless, we all know the primary motivation behind scrapping the F22: this anti-military administration&#039;s desires to weaken our military strength and begin re-allocating the funds and budgets to &quot;social&quot; issues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As advanced and fantastic as the F22 is, it is economically inefficient, and requires 30 hours of ground service for every hour in the air.</p>
<p>regardless, we all know the primary motivation behind scrapping the F22: this anti-military administration&#8217;s desires to weaken our military strength and begin re-allocating the funds and budgets to &#8220;social&#8221; issues</p>
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		<title>By: Reloader449</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reloader449</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MadRad is totally correct, of course. There are aspects of the F-22 that will remain very secret for years, decades. It is great as a Forward Controller AWACS-like platform, and can do so many other things because it&#039;s a sort of very high altitude &quot;ghost.&quot; The F-35 is for ground attack. Both are needed to complement the B-2 Spirit, and possibly upcoming tailless/flying-wing/stealthy combat transport cargo aircraft.

When they put the lone Raptor pilot up against 6 or 8 F-15&#039;s, the F-15&#039;s are also BEING FLOWN BY RAPTOR PILOTS. That&#039;s how they train. Every F-15 is a Raptor pilot, he knows what the Raptor can do, he is an expert at what F-15 can do, he has several other Eagles to cooperate with ... and they still lose.

I&#039;m gratified that there are so many knowledgeable people posting here in favor of the F-22 Raptor AND the F-35 Lightning. WE NEED BOTH.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MadRad is totally correct, of course. There are aspects of the F-22 that will remain very secret for years, decades. It is great as a Forward Controller AWACS-like platform, and can do so many other things because it&#8217;s a sort of very high altitude &#8220;ghost.&#8221; The F-35 is for ground attack. Both are needed to complement the B-2 Spirit, and possibly upcoming tailless/flying-wing/stealthy combat transport cargo aircraft.</p>
<p>When they put the lone Raptor pilot up against 6 or 8 F-15&#8242;s, the F-15&#8242;s are also BEING FLOWN BY RAPTOR PILOTS. That&#8217;s how they train. Every F-15 is a Raptor pilot, he knows what the Raptor can do, he is an expert at what F-15 can do, he has several other Eagles to cooperate with &#8230; and they still lose.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m gratified that there are so many knowledgeable people posting here in favor of the F-22 Raptor AND the F-35 Lightning. WE NEED BOTH.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has all happened before. Does anyone remeber the F-111 ?  That was supposed to be &quot;the fighter for all services&quot; and even though it served the USAF very well for many years the program was a failure in the bigger picture of things. It never became a fighter and only ended up with teh Air Force. When you try to make a plane that can do everything you get something that can do a lot but is not outstanding at anything. History has proven this time and time again and the F-35 will be no different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has all happened before. Does anyone remeber the F-111 ?  That was supposed to be &#8220;the fighter for all services&#8221; and even though it served the USAF very well for many years the program was a failure in the bigger picture of things. It never became a fighter and only ended up with teh Air Force. When you try to make a plane that can do everything you get something that can do a lot but is not outstanding at anything. History has proven this time and time again and the F-35 will be no different.</p>
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		<title>By: JOE ...NH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JOE ...NH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Madd from another F22/F35 worker. We know that alot of the Superiority comes from the EW Suite on the Aircraft. &quot;We protect those who protect us&quot;  :wink:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Madd from another F22/F35 worker. We know that alot of the Superiority comes from the EW Suite on the Aircraft. &#8220;We protect those who protect us&#8221;  <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: unkaglen</title>
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		<dc:creator>unkaglen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My cousin works for Lockheed Martin and assures me the F-35 will be able to get the job done.It will be the most advanced fighter/attack aircraft in the world. :lol:  :beer:  :gun:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My cousin works for Lockheed Martin and assures me the F-35 will be able to get the job done.It will be the most advanced fighter/attack aircraft in the world. <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />   :beer:  :gun:</p>
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		<title>By: sassysuz</title>
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		<dc:creator>sassysuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is better to rule in hell than serve in Heaven. If your a Godless Marxist,that would seem logical. They do not want to be the Worlds Leading Super Power for Freedom. If BHO stance with Honduras hasn&#039;t shown the World where we now stand, than our stance with Israel makes it much clearer. This is no longer the America we all have know and Love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is better to rule in hell than serve in Heaven. If your a Godless Marxist,that would seem logical. They do not want to be the Worlds Leading Super Power for Freedom. If BHO stance with Honduras hasn&#8217;t shown the World where we now stand, than our stance with Israel makes it much clearer. This is no longer the America we all have know and Love.</p>
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		<title>By: DocOne</title>
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		<dc:creator>DocOne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, its pretty obvious the dems in general, and especially the top 3 fucksticks are setting up the country to fail on purpose. I get that. My question is why? Why hang the country out to dry? It doesnt take a genius to say &quot;hey, im running this place into the ground...on purpose, but wait, I live here too. If this place comes a-crumblin down, its gonna crumble right on top of me.&quot; I just cant understand where this feeling of invincibility comes from. Besides, if it gets as bad as it could here, theres 300 mil pissed americans with one thing on their minds. Im sure they heard of the french revolution. I know they&#039;re only out for themselves so why would they be acting against their own self interest so explicitly. I just dont get it. any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, its pretty obvious the dems in general, and especially the top 3 fucksticks are setting up the country to fail on purpose. I get that. My question is why? Why hang the country out to dry? It doesnt take a genius to say &#8220;hey, im running this place into the ground&#8230;on purpose, but wait, I live here too. If this place comes a-crumblin down, its gonna crumble right on top of me.&#8221; I just cant understand where this feeling of invincibility comes from. Besides, if it gets as bad as it could here, theres 300 mil pissed americans with one thing on their minds. Im sure they heard of the french revolution. I know they&#8217;re only out for themselves so why would they be acting against their own self interest so explicitly. I just dont get it. any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: sassysuz</title>
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		<dc:creator>sassysuz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We cannot afford not to be the LONE Force for Freedom in the World. If the Marxist President has his way we will be one of the many voices for dictatorships and despots :twisted: ........... :gun:  :gun:  :gun:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We cannot afford not to be the LONE Force for Freedom in the World. If the Marxist President has his way we will be one of the many voices for dictatorships and despots <img src='http://patdollard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. :gun:  :gun:  :gun:</p>
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