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Leftist Propaganda Machine: Rick Sanchez Claims To Put To Rest Entire Obama Birth Certificate Issue



Jul 21, 2009 40 Comments ›› Pat Dollard


  • me gusta el constitution

    How the FUCK does someone get their head so far up their own ass and not asphyxiate?

  • Caligula

    I’d be fine if the image that rick “dirty” sanchez presented wasn’t proven by image forensics to be a forgery…

    why can’t B. H. Obuttfuck just release and/or hold up the ORIGINAL document on live TV?-

  • YERMOM

    this cocksucker has a problem with the pledge?

    if it is a non issue why are you trying sooooo fucking hard to convince us?

    if you are trying as hard as he is to hide it…there is something to hide.

  • Tim Roesch

    The question that I have, since I am not a forgery expert, don’t have the time to research the issue in depth, don’t except the vague comments about ‘here it is’ when I KNOW I could not produce an internet copy of my birth certificate as proof of birth (I have had to obtain certified copies, notarized etc), can’t understand why this wasn’t laid to rest A LONG, LONG time ago…
    …is why is this issue being allowed to fester?
    Follow the money. Who benefits?

    I have to admit, I am a bit put off by the notion that so many people and organizations would have to be colluding if this were true…and if it is not true…the damage done to the integrity of the system…

    How’s this for a conspiracy?
    Obama is an American Citizen. There is a verifiable Certificate of Birth…but this is all a stunt to unsettle the country, cast doubt in the integrity of its basic institutions, foment rebellion and chaos.

    Has someone considered that?

  • Professor Bill

    Something is definitely amiss, but I am shocked at how this jerk didn’t have to submit college transcripts as well. Every job I have had since graduating I had to submit an official copy of transcripts. There is definitely something rotten in the kitchen.

    Also, why does Rick Sanchez look so gay? He really does look effeminately queer.

  • Lock and Load

    Rick Sanchez is a legend in his own mind… sort of like that presidential interloper he worships on a daily basis :roll: :???:

  • Mr. Standfast

    Perhaps Rick should have a talk with Lou Dobbs. Or perhaps explain the lack of transparency via executive order

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/obama/presidential.html

  • windigo

    This “factcheck” is a devious little website….I’ve already ran across a couple of so called “facts” that could have been argued either way…yet, instead of stating that FACT, they chose to pick the side that obviously supported their liberal agenda… :shock: :shock:

  • Tim Roesch

    It would be helpful to those trying to counter such things if you would list those ‘facts’ so I can use them as I encounter (sometimes forcefully) liberals I meet on my way (or out the window of my car).

  • http://osmoothie.com/ sam, LA

    uhh wait a minute sanchez, that’s still not a birth certificate

    and even if he was born in hawaii, there are concerns about his citizenship

    here’s a good summary that ive seen floating around that describes the situation nicely:

    Certificate of Live Birth was produced. Hawaii did NOT say birth took place there, rather they said they have an original birth certificate on file (no mention of the country that issued that b/c). There is a newspaper announcement on 9/13 that notes BHO’s birth – doesn’t say where he was born. And of course many people run ads in newspapers of their home towns about births and deaths but it doesn’t mean the birth or death look place there.

    BHO traveled to Pakistan in his 20’s. It would have been impossible for a US citizen to do so on a US passport at the time. We also know that he was declared to be an Indonesian citizen on his school records in Indonesia after being adopted by Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. It would appear, based on rules at the time, that Barry Soetoro aka BHO, would need to renounce that Indonesian citizenship at the age of majority to retain any “natural born citizen” status he might have had.

    His mother was too young to confer US citizenship upon Barry aka BHO because the law at the time would have required her to be 19 at BHO’s birth, and she was only 18.

    See this is the problem. People hear tidbits of an argument and accept it as the truth and therefore label others as “birthers” or “truthers” without really discovering what the entire argument is.

    How did Barry travel to Pakistan in his 20’s?

    Why does Barry’s grandmother say he was born in Kenya?

    Why do Kenyans claim he was born there?

    Why is Barry spending over $1 million to prevent from revealing a certified copy of his real birth certificate?

    Why does Barry claim to be born in a hospital in Hawaii that states he was NOT born there?

    Why does Barry’s sister claim he was born in a different Hawaiian hospital, who also has no record?

    Why on earth has the US Supreme Court said that US Citizens have no “standing” to ascertain if BHO is a “natural born” citizen?

    Why did a soldier who brought a suit about Barry’s B/C (claiming that he needed to ascertain that he was the rightful president before accepting orders into a war zone) suddenly have his military orders changed so that he lost “standing” required by the Supreme Court?

  • Tim Roesch

    Would it be possible to see other Certificates of Live Birth from that time period (not here, but somewhere) for comparison AND see the law that states that the COLB is not sufficient to determine citizenship (has this issue come up other times for other people trying to claim US Citizenship)?

    Where is the Director of FBI? Shouldn’t he be speaking to us?
    If Obama is a citizen then the FBI should be refuting claims. If Obama isn’t they have some ‘splaining to do.

  • Scoot

    I couldn’t have said it any better Yermom. :beer: :gun: :beer: :gun:

  • Scoot

    Remember, Henry Kissinger had a lot to do with him, helping bring him up in the world. Kissinger has a ton of power, is extremely evil, and has the ways and means to keep this hidden.

    If it does come out that he is legal, then I’m thinking they’re doing this cover-up because of his college transcripts. Those will sink him in 2.3 seconds if they get into the general mainstream.

  • b

    My husband had a Certification of Live Birth just like the one Rick shows (except it was real) although it was from the state of Maryland. He recently went to get a passport; the State Department will not accept that document as proof of citizenship. He had to send for his “long form” Birth certificate

  • MinneSoCold

    It’s a very simple request that would put to rest all of this…
    Reveal the full COLB and have it certified authentic.
    No excuses, no delays, it’s a “yes or no” issue.

  • Sully

    Man those Birth Certificate troofers are like everywhere. The DMV. The passport assholes.
    And THEN the fascist pricks at the gun store not only want ID but have run the SAME background check like 50 times.
    Double standard is right. That Barry prick has like 100 times as many guns as me that he keeps in that weird 5-sided building and HE hasn’t had to go through NOT ONE background check or, worse yet, a ‘visit’ from those Homeland Security goons.

  • DesignR

    What they are holding up is a “Certificate of Live Birth”, not an official “Birth Certificate”. A certificate of live birth is created by a family member after the fact, and NOT the doctor or hospital.

    Yes, if Obama was born in Kenya, someone in the family would have had to lie when creating the Certificate of Live Birth. Sanchez asks ‘why would the grandparents lie about something like that? They would have to know he would be president one day.’

    No. There are many reasons people want an American Birth Certificate. Go ask an Illegal Alien why it is important to them. For Obama’s family, it was important that he be a Citizen for what ever purpose. Did the family ever get welfare or student loans for college? There are hundreds of reasons a family member would lie about his actual birth place.

    The question is…

    Where is the ACTUAL “Birth Certificate”? There must be one somewhere. Who was the attending doctor? What time and date was he born and in what hospital? Only the actual Birth Certificate can show this.

    There are dozens of reasons to doubt Obama is a citizen. Sanchez is an idiot at least and a Communist Propaganda Traitor to the United States at most. I hope he chokes on his lies and falls dead on set. Now THAT would make me watch CNN! At least for that program.

  • I hate cool aid

    Lets also talk college records. Was he a foriegn student? Was he a “C” student? Was he not even in Colombia in ’83 like other poly sci grads now say? All we want is the truth Barry. Give the citizens a fucking break. Oh and Climate change is the biggest hoax ever put over on the US public. We see right through you and Al baby. It’s all about money and power. See you both in hell.

  • YERMOM

    :beer:

  • YERMOM

    un muther fucking believable.

  • YERMOM

    we should just stop paying taxes until it is produced.

    After all nothing he signs would be valid if he doesnt have one. He doesnt have the authority to collect taxes or give the orders to if he doesnt have one.

    and where ever he goes we should be there asking where it’s at

  • Stench of Lib Lies

    Obama sr African
    it would be more like
    Obama sr Negro

  • Mr. Big

    Factcheck is a front for Obama and it pisses me off that people throw it out there as though it is actually a non-partisan factual site. It takes about 2 clicks of a mouse to link it to Obama and Ayers… that’s right Bill Ayers!!

    Here it is. Start at Wikipedia and type in Factcheck.org. It takes you to a page where the first paragraph states -

    FactCheck.org is a nonpartisan,[1] nonprofit[2] website that describes itself as a “‘consumer advocate’ for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics.”[3] It is a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania, and is funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation.[3]

    That’s right… “…funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation”!! Sound familiar?

    Click on “Annenberg Foundation” and it takes you to a new page where the second paragraph states -

    The Foundation oversaw the funding of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and contributed significantly to the USC and University of Pennsylvania Annenberg Schools for Communication, Annenberg Public Policy Center, FactCheck, and Eisenhower Medical Center.

    We’re getting closer… “…oversaw the funding of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge”. So now click on “Chicago Annenberg Challenge”. This takes you to a new page which states under the section titled “Beginnings” -

    The three co-authors of Chicago’s winning Annenberg Challenge $49.2 million grant proposal were:

    1. William Ayers, associate professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago; co-director of the Small Schools Workshop; co-director of the Chicago Forum for School Change

    …and then further down under the section titled “Board of Directors” -

    The founding Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge as announced in 1995 were:[38][39]

    1. Patricia Albjerg Graham
    2. Barack Obama, blah, blah, blah

    So let’s get this straight. Factcheck.org is “funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation”. The Annenberg Foundation “oversaw the funding of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge”. And finally… “three co-authors of Chicago’s winning Annenberg Challenge $49.2 million grant proposal were… 1. William Ayers” and “The founding Board of Directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge as announced in 1995 were… 2. Barack Obama”.

    Were supposed to accept that Factcheck.org is impartial… … …please. :roll:

    Spread the word.

  • http://bsoetoro.com Mr.Scsi

    Actually what Sanchez was holding up is a CERTIFICATION of live birth, Hawaii offered 2 different Docs a Certificate Of Live Birth AKA Longform and a Certification of live birth AKA shortform…

    libratards like to say Hawaii doesnt issue Certificates any longer but just who are we kidding here, he can waive his hand and release my BC if he wants to, he can release his as well…

    I have started a new blog at http://bsoetoro.com It’s an Obamanation… Swing on by and leave some comments…

    Mr. Scsi out…

  • rxsid

    Even with a genuine verifiable copy of his long form b.c. from HI, he STILL has an even bigger eligibility problem.

    assuming Barry didn’t lie about who his biological father was…

    if being born to a foreign national father, and you yourself were born with foreign citizenship means that you are considered a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.

    then nearly 250 years of historical reference to the definition of NBC would have been redefined during this last election…all without a court decision, new law and so forth.

    furthermore, why did the Senate just last year feel compelled to pass resolution 511? keep in mind that many who worked on that resolution publicly stated that their understanding of NBC meant born to two (2) citizen parents. Obviously, Barry wasn’t.

    if Barry’s background is allowed for NBC, then the next degradation in the original meaning would be to allow naturalized citizens to be considered natural born citizens…or even anchor baby’s to be considered nbc because, after all…they were born here.

    all those scenarios totally flies in the face of WHY the framers put that requirement in there to begin with.

    if born here to non citizen parents, or 1 citizen parent or not born here but later naturalized, you can be Governor or senator or a rep…but you can not be POTUS as that has the additional requirement written into our Constitution.

  • rxsid

    Has anyone seen Rush Limbaugh’s short form HI COLB?

    http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/p5151/birthcertrush.jpg

    How about Shepard Smiths?

    http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt35/p5151/shepardsmithbc.jpg

    The point here, is that it’s so easy to digitally create one of those things, and then post it out in ‘cyberspace.’

  • rxsid

    If someone tells you that HI didn’t have “long form” COLB’s (a/k/a B.C.’s), they are lying through their teeth!

    Here is a 1961 HI long form next to Barry’s fake short form:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7ZHgkftmpmuoa1qlSwQSyQ?feat=directlink

    1963 long form:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1mCp9EjKaDE0PX7LPAeTSg?feat=directlink

    1962 long form:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/0qGL4Sq3VjrB_PpnWYYjoA?feat=directlink

    And just for the ‘heck of it’, a 1978 long form:
    http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/RzEyOd4GAUOpcqv1-DSvww?feat=directlink

    b.t.w. the acronym COLB referes to both the short form as well as the long form.

    Short form COLB = Certification of live birth

    Long form COLB = Certificate of live birth

  • smrstrauss

    Re: ‘How did Barry travel to Pakistan in his 20’s?

    He traveled on a US passport. Pakistan did not keep US citizens out and it was not on any “no-travel list.” Obama never had a British passport or an Indonesian passport. Indonesia has said that Obama was never a citizen of Indonesia, and so has the US State Department.

    Re: “Why does Barry’s grandmother say he was born in Kenya?’

    She didn’t. Listen to the complete tape. You will hear her say “America, Hawaii” right after the question “Whereabouts was he born?” http://www.obamacrimes.info/Telephone_Interview_with_Sarah_Hussein_Obama_10-16-08.mp3

    Why do Kenyans claim he was born there?

    They don’t. There have been no reports from Kenya saying that anyone says that he was born in Kenya. There has been no confirmation that there were any birth files in Kenya or that they were sealed or that anything has been sealed. There also would have to be US government files if Obama was born in Kenya because he would have to get from Kenya to the USA and that usually requires a US visa. Or it could be done by changing his mother’s US passport to include him while she was in Kenya (IF she was in Kenya and there is not proof of that), but both of those things would require US files which would have been found by now.

    Re: “Why is Barry spending over $1 million to prevent from revealing a certified copy of his real birth certificate?”

    He hasn’t, All the lawsuits were to stop the election, stop the certification of the election or now to reverse the election. No lawsuit against Obama was filed simply to get the birth certificate and of the eight or so cases I read, they did not even ask the court to demand that Obama show the court his birth certificate.

    Re: “Why does Barry claim to be born in a hospital in Hawaii that states he was NOT born there?’

    The hospital you refer to did NOT say that he was not born there. It said that it could not reveal whether he was or was not. There is a federal privacy law that requires that hospitals not disclose patient records.

    Re: “Why does Barry’s sister claim he was born in a different Hawaiian hospital, who also has no record?”

    She was misquoted. She never said it.

  • rxsid

    “All the lawsuits were to stop the election, stop the certification of the election or now to reverse the election.”

    Not true. 3 Examples:

    Kerchner v Obama alleges 1st, 5th, 9th, 10th and 20th Amendment(s) rights violations due (in part) because Barry hasn’t confirmed his Natural Born Citizenship status.

    Craig v. United States alleges 4th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 14th Amendment(s) rights violations due the defendants not “preserving and protecting the Constitution of the United States” since Barry hasn’t confirmed his Natural Born Citizenship status.

    Hollister v. Soetoro seeks to find the truth of Barry’s real name, as well as confirmation on whether to follow any orders (re: military personal) from Barry.

    Similarly, many Writ’s of Quo Warranto have been filed with A.G. Holder, U.S. Attorney Taylor (& others) questioning under what authority does Barry allege to be POTUS.

  • rxsid

    b.t.w.

    A 4th charge of treason (that is publicly known) has been “levied” by retired military:

    Naval Lt. Commander (Ret.), Walter Francis Fitzpatrick III

    U.S. Army Veteran, Richard M. Keefner

    USMC Gunnery Sergeant (Ret.), Robert D. Pinkstaff

    USMC Sgt. E-5 Veteran, Phillip A. Wolf

    http://www.riseupforamerica.com/

  • smrstrauss

    Re: “Craig v. United States alleges 4th, 8th, 9th, 10th and 14th Amendment(s) rights violations due the defendants not “preserving and protecting the Constitution of the United States” since Barry hasn’t confirmed his Natural Born Citizenship status.”

    That is not the same thing as suing to force the disclosure of the documents. When you sue for the disclosure, you ask the court to direct that the documents be delivered to the court.

    Did the case ask the court to direct that Obama show his birth certificate? NO. It did not.

    Did it also claim that Obama was not a citizen because his father was Kenyan? Yes it did.

    None of the cases were for the birth documents.

  • rxsid

    “Did the case ask the court to direct that Obama show his birth certificate? NO. It did not.”

    “None of the cases were for the birth documents.”

    Um, what are you talking about? Perhaps your refering to some other commenter…on another site, but I alleged none of those things. Therefore, why would you say I said those things?

    Your original statement was:
    “All the lawsuits were to stop the election, stop the certification of the election or now to reverse the election.”

    Which I gave 3 examples (+ Quo Warranto) to show that not ALL lawsuits where a direct challenge to stopping or reversing the election, nor the E.C.

    Just making stuff up huh? Ironically, sounds familiar.

  • smrstrauss

    Re: “All the lawsuits were to stop the election, stop the certification of the election or now to reverse the election.”

    The original question was: “Why is Barry spending over $1 million to prevent from revealing a certified copy of his real birth certificate?”

    YOU have demonstrated that none of the cases was to force Obama to reveal a copy of his real birth certificate.

    Most of the cases were to stop the election or to stop the certification of the election or to nullify the election. Some are now asking that Obama prove that he is a natural born citizen, but that includes proving that his father was not a citizen of Kenya (which he was) or to prove that even if Obama’s father was a citizen of Kenya he still would be eligible because a Natural Born Citizen is merely someone who was born in the USA.

    A Natural Born Citizen IS merely someone who was born in the USA (that was the original meaning of “Natural Born”, but the point is that this is not a case that demands Obama show his original birth certificate. The money spent in defending this case does not count as money spent to prevent revealing a certified copy of his original birth certificate.

  • smrstrauss
  • rxsid

    Your spinin there dude.

    I responded to 1 very specific quote. And you know it.

  • rxsid

    McCain could never be considered an NBC either, as he wasn’t born on sovereign U.S. territory.

    And…so what? Is someone alleging McCain is eligible?

  • rxsid

    Oh wait. Yes indeed, someone DID allege McCain is eligible. That being Senator Leahy and (former) secretary Chertoff.

    http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200804/041008c.html

    That’s never been my allegation, as I’ve agreed with Donofrio from the beginning.

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  • smrstrauss

    Re: “if being born to a foreign national father, and you yourself were born with foreign citizenship means that you are considered a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.”

    Obama is a Natural Born Citizen under the original, and unchanged definition of Natural Born Citizen, which is merely that someone was born in the USA. This stems from the laws in the colonies at the time of the Revolution, which referred to “Natural Born Subjects,” which meant people who were born in the colony, regardless of the number of parents who were citizens or subjects before the birth.

    Virtually all legal experts disagree with Vattel and hold that the term “Natural Born Citizen,” which appears in Article II of the Constitution, is the US synonym for Natural Born Subject under British Common Law. In this, they agree with Blackstone, the British legal scholar, who wrote at about 1770 that a Natural Born Subject under British common law is merely someone who is born in the British realm, with the exception of the children of foreign diplomats.

    There has even been a US Supreme Case, the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), in which the Supreme Court said that a Natural Born Citizen is the same thing as a Natural Born Subject.

    And that is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:

    Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:

    “Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)

    Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:

    “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)

    To be sure, Vattel said differently. Vattel said that to be a native citizen at all (“Natural Born” did not appear in the Vattel translation until 100 years after the Constitution), you had to have two parents born in the country and be born in the country. But what is the evidence that the writers of the constitution followed Vattel? They did not follow him on other things, and it is much more likely that they referred to the existing legal definition of “Natural Born” from the laws in the colonies, meaning simply birth in the country.

  • smrstrauss

    The original question was: “Why is Barry spending over $1 million to prevent from revealing a certified copy of his real birth certificate?”

    YOU have demonstrated that none of the cases was to force Obama to reveal a copy of his real birth certificate.