Republican Rep Rips MSNBC For “Using Capitalist Rhetoric” To Move Anti-Market Health Plan

July 29th, 2009 (8) Posted By Erik Wong.

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  • Mark Gibbons

    Well said from cheeseland.

  • Shotty628

    That’s my congressman. He kicked that shill in the uterus. He’s a rising star in the GOP and an economist by trade. Wisconsin sends so many whack jobs to D.C. is’t refreshing that we have a true American for a change.

  • YERMOM

    Nice he punted her right in the babymaker!

  • Abigail

    Congressman Ryan errs:

    He says he is for competition: US healthcare per capita currently costs 3 times as much as the UK despite not offering universal coverage. The US is over twice as expensive as Germany and France. If competition were working in the US prices wouldn’t be the highest in the world.

    As a Republican he says government can’t run anything competitively: then he says that a public plan would out compete the private sector in just a few short years.

    So Mr Ryan says:
    The public sector shouldn’t run things because they are wasteful.
    The public sector shouldn’t run health insurance because they’re too competitive.
    I’m a capitalist and for competition.
    I’m against the public sector competing with the private sector in health.

    So, Mr Ryan, how do you suggest the US bring down the highest health care costs in the world WITHOUT more competition?

    • caveman

      Abigail errs:

      When the government stacks the rules in their favor, underpays as they do now with Medicare/Medicaid (making the private sector pick up rest of the tab), and uses taxpayer money as their never-ending piggy bank, the private sector will be forced out of the market. That’s the intention behind ObamaScare.

      The answer is less government intrusion, not more.

      This is matter of freedom. You can be a pawn of the state, I refuse.

    • David Ross

      Abigail, you poor unknowing and mislead soul. If we were to only treat a fraction of those who are sick WE TOO could pay a fraction of what we currently pay out just as those you seek to emulate. Then you combine the fact that you cannot sue a doctor in the UK or any other socialist country like France and Germany. There are many well documented stories of amputations of good limbs and the like. Once we submit to being paupers as are those in socialist countries we must accept the care that is “given” just as they have. When was the last time you heard of anyone anywhere traveling to Germany, France or the UK for medical treatment, hmmmm? They don’t, they only go to great lengths to come here because we have the BEST medical treatment in the world BAR NONE!

      I won’t even go into the doctor shortages and the incredibly long waits that they have grown accustomed to in those “more medically advanced” countries you hold to such high esteem.

  • frank

    ABBY YOUR NOT VERY SMART ARE YOU?? THIS IS NOT ABOUT MEDICAL CARE ITS ABOUT PROPLE CONTROL. WITH NATIONAL HEALTHCARE THE GOVERMENT WILL BE ABLE TO MONITOR YOU . ITS ABOUT FREEDOM, WHAT GOOD IS HEALTH CARE IF YOU DON,T HAVE THR FREEDOM TO ENJOY LIFE?? IT WON’T BE LONG AND THE GOVERMENT WILL USE THIS TO CONTROLL EVERYTHING WE DO. THEY WILL SAY IT’S FOR OUR OWN GOOD BUT WILL THE PEOPLE IN OUR GOVERMENT BE ON OBAMACARE ?? NOOO JUST LIKE THEIR NOT PAYING INTO SOCIAL SECURITY, THEY HAVE PRIVATE PLANS.

  • Alice Paul

    Abigal, you are confusing the FACTS! Let me speak your language. You are comparing the plan from France with Obamacare..*excuse me while I try not to laugh!*

    Obamacare, leaves huge holes for drug companies and insurance companies. His plan is a MESS. It will NOT WORK and it’s cruel. He did not know what he was doing. His plan isn’t like France, or Canada at all. It is NOT universal healthcare though he is using language to make you think it IS.

    I have lived in Canada and I will admit that a lot of rhetoric I see about the way their system works on the U.S. side is bullshit…BUT Obamacare is not going to work like that, not even close. It’s ten times worse.

    You think Obama is trying to put through some version of Uni…I can tell you have not read the entire document, ALL one thousand pages and made yourself study it till you understand what he is doing. He will so screw up any idea you ever had about wanting uni that it will never happen…again, I’m trying to make you see from your own perspective here. Do not allow this man to continue to fool you. His plan is a mish mash of bad ideas. It won’t work!! Again, I’ve lived all over the place…I’ve seen universal health care that worked for the most part with a few problems but, nothing like what people think or say it is…BUT HIS ISN”T THAT!!!!!

    The inexperience really shows in this so called plan and people will suffer for it. If you are honest with yourself and if you READ that document there is no way on gods earth you can support this mans idea of a health care plan. Obama so called “care” is nothing but, grandiosity on Obama’s part and it will harm people. He wants to push this through without really understanding himself the harm he will do or caring JUST so he can say he was “the one” that got it through.

    I find that morally repugnant and so should you whether or not you agree with universal healthcare. This isn’t THAT!! Please wake up and do not lie to yourself just because you want to like Obama. That’s morally irresponsible of you. And frankly, it’s inexcusable.