Saudis Give Israel The Go-Ahead To Bomb Iran
I told you all almost two months ago that my intelligence sources assured me that the old Sunni states like Egypt and Saudi Arabia were going to do absolutely whatever it took to keep Shiite Iran from getting the bomb. You’ll notice that just a few days ago, as reported here, Egypt began cooperating with the Israeli navy to allow safe passage of attack submarines through the Suez Canal.
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The head of Mossad, Israel’s overseas intelligence service, has assured Benjamin Netanyahu, its prime minister, that Saudi Arabia would turn a blind eye to Israeli jets flying over the kingdom during any future raid on Iran’s nuclear sites.
Earlier this year Meir Dagan, Mossad’s director since 2002, held secret talks with Saudi officials to discuss the possibility.
The Israeli press has already carried unconfirmed reports that high-ranking officials, including Ehud Olmert, the former prime minister, held meetings with Saudi colleagues. The reports were denied by Saudi officials.
“The Saudis have tacitly agreed to the Israeli air force flying through their airspace on a mission which is supposed to be in the common interests of both Israel and Saudi Arabia,” a diplomatic source said last week.
Although the countries have no formal diplomatic relations, an Israeli defence source confirmed that Mossad maintained “working relations” with the Saudis.
John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the United Nations who recently visited the Gulf, said it was “entirely logical” for the Israelis to use Saudi airspace.
Bolton, who has talked to several Arab leaders, added: “None of them would say anything about it publicly but they would certainly acquiesce in an overflight if the Israelis didn’t trumpet it as a big success.”
Arab states would condemn a raid when they spoke at the UN but would be privately relieved to see the threat of an Iranian bomb removed, he said.
Referring to the Israeli attack on an alleged Syrian nuclear facility in 2007, Bolton added: “To this day, the Israelis haven’t admitted the specifics but there’s one less nuclear facility in Syria . . .”
Recent developments have underscored concerns among moderate Sunni Arab states about the stability of the repressive Shi’ite regime in Tehran and have increased fears that it may emerge as a belligerent nuclear power.
“The Saudis are very concerned about an Iranian nuclear bomb, even more than the Israelis,” said a former head of research in Israeli intelligence.
The Israeli air force has been training for a possible attack on Iran’s nuclear site at Natanz in the centre of the country and other locations for four years.
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Go,my brothers defend yourself,israel has a right to protect it people, do not listen to the community organizer. down with the socistist liberals demoncracts.
ayrab states will condemn an Israeli raid on iran, but in the future WILL use it as anti-Israeli propaganda, in the context of ‘Israel attacks a muzz nation’. ayrabs/muzz = COWARDLY SCUM/COWARDLY SCUM.
Yeah, Israel has the balls and the desperate need to bomb iran’s nuclear facilities. The other problem is north korea. The idiot in charge already has 1 or more nuclear bombs and he hates America, not Israel. So what will we do about it? Wring our hands and beg the un to beg north korea to not send missiles towards Hawaii or worse sell them to al qaida who also hate America and want to die.
What we have in our White House is a weak kneed turd. Where are the countdown clocks? 2012 can’t come soon enough.
In this situation, the old Arab saying is true: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”, but only as a matter of convenience. It is surprising that, with all that oil money, Saudi Arabia doesn’t have its own fighting airforce. Also, remember: these people (both Arab and Israelis) have the same biological ancestor in Abraham but, as it is shown time and again, the Arab nations are continually at each others throats, just as God revealed regarding Ishmael and all his (arab) descendants. This to Hagar, Sarah’s servant, out of Genesis chapter 16 verses 11 and 12:
“ Behold, you are with child,
And you shall bear a son.
You shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the LORD has heard your affliction.
He shall be a wild man;
His hand shall be against every man,
And every man’s hand against him.
And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.”
Without a doubt, the only stable people throughout the middle east, is found solely in the nation of Israel. Should we turn our backs on them, we are doomed! Go get ‘em Israel!!
Dont we reguarlary sell F-16s to the saudis????
I’m sorry but bombing Iran at this point in time is just not a smart idea. I will defer to intelligence sources though and if they think that Iran is about to launch a nuke then go for it.
However, the government in Iran is severely weakened after these past elections and a good majority of the population no longer like their government. If an outside country were to attack Iran, it would only give the people someone else to hate and a justifiable reason for Iran’s government to crackdown on their citizens.
It’s a tricky and complicated situation. The only thing that would be just as worse would be Obama or any other country talking to Iran to try and get them to back down. Their government is not legitimate and there should be no talks.
“It is surprising that, with all that oil money, Saudi Arabia doesn’t have its own fighting airforce.”
They do have an Air Force, we trained them. It is just more convenience to simply allow Israel to do the work for them & then later use the attack for anti-Israel propaganda.
“I’m sorry but bombing Iran at this point in time is just not a smart idea.”
I disagree 100%, while the Iranian people fight for “freedom” their definition of freedom & ours are two completely different things. Furthermore, if an opportunity presents itself for you to deliver a decisive blow to your enemies ability to commit mass murder, then don’t wimp out or you may not exist after they develop the bomb.
Their definition of freedom is no different than ours. They do not want a dictator and they do not want a theocracy. They want what they were promised, a republic where their votes count and the freedom to speak out and do what they want. Not what a couple clerics deem is right.
I do not disagree that if you see a chance to deal a decisive blow you may lose out if you don’t take it. But there is a lot more going on. If anyone attacks Iran it is a guarantee that the public will shift some of their hate away from their government and their government attains more power and more emboldened to create a nuclear weapon. However, if we carefully watch the situation and let the Iranian people sort out their government then the nuclear threat may just go away on its own and we have another ally in the Middle East.
I am not saying ignore the threat but stay vigilant and let what is happening in Iran work itself out. Ahmadinejad is probably praying every night for someone to attack his country so he can step up and do his america and israel are the devil bit. We should not give him what he wants. It was hilarious to see him flounder when he really could not verbally attack Obama or America because we were not threatening them anymore. It was a big reason he started falling out of favor, he kept blaming so many things on America instead of fixing his own country.
“if we carefully watch the situation and let the Iranian people sort out their government then the nuclear threat may just go away on its own and we have another ally in the Middle East.”
Haven’t we been watching for the last 3 decades? No disrespect to you Jeff, but the hope that “the nuclear threat may just go away” sounds a lot like the head in the sand liberal argument to me.
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Iran already possess the centrifuges necessary to produce weapons grade material? And ballistic missiles with an effective range great enough to strike Israel?
“We should not give him what he wants. It was hilarious to see him flounder when he really could not verbally attack Obama or America because we were not threatening them anymore.”
I’m sure Israel is laughing too.
This statement also sounds a lot like the liberal argument that we are responsible for the decisions & actions of Iran to pursue nuclear technology capable of creating nuclear weapons when they are sitting on one of the worlds largest oil supplies.
This idea is BS, they teach (brainwash) their people to hate Israel & the U.S. and simply because the Iranian people are unhappy with their current government/leadership does not change the decades of brainwashing & hate.
If you want to make that argument it would best be stated as follows:
‘If Israel & the U.S. didn’t exist Iran wouldn’t need to pursuing nuclear weapons.’
But, we all know this is a BS argument, because even if there was no Israel or U.S. that wouldn’t stop them from hating some other population now would it (i.e. Shi’ite, Sunni).
“Haven’t we been watching for the last 3 decades? No disrespect to you Jeff, but the hope that “the nuclear threat may just go away” sounds a lot like the head in the sand liberal argument to me.”
Normally I would agree…but when a country goes from having someone who despises the west to millions of people who like the freedoms of the west who are trying to get power it is a different situation. There is a possibility that the people can take back power and become an ally. It is unlikely but it would be a great outcome. And during this time I am still advocating vigilance and any sign of nuclear weapon construction should be dealt with.
Yes they have ballistic missiles and centrifuges but that is still a long way from making a nuke. Even if they had a nuclear device, putting it on a ballistic missile is a big chore in of itself. So our spies and intel sources should keep an eye on this and once something looks like a credible attempt or attack, a decision to strike can be made.
“This statement also sounds a lot like the liberal argument that we are responsible for the decisions & actions of Iran to pursue nuclear technology capable of creating nuclear weapons when they are sitting on one of the worlds largest oil supplies.”
Iran’s problem is they have a lot of oil but no refineries. They need to import their gasoline which is why their economy is so broken. They can sell all the oil they want but they do not have the facilities to turn it into gasoline or usable oil in power plants and cars. Is Iran looking into nuclear power, probably. Are they more interested in a nuclear weapon, most definitely.
“This idea is BS, they teach (brainwash) their people to hate Israel & the U.S. and simply because the Iranian people are unhappy with their current government/leadership does not change the decades of brainwashing & hate.”
Yes they do. But there are also millions of Iranians who do not fall for that BS. Especially after these past elections. The millions of Iranians saw the rest of the world come out to support them, even Israelis. They saw the embassies in Tehran that opened their doors while their government killed them. It is a lot bigger than just a small disagreement with their government. Which is why I said it might be worth it to let them sort out their country while we just closely watch. There is a lot to gain at very little cost to us. However, if we struck now we might gain a little but at the larger loss of the Iranian government getting more power and cracking down on the people who are more friendly to the west. Thus being in a better position to accelerate their nuclear research.
While we can debate the pros & cons of taking action during this time of political unrest in Iran. The bottom line is that Israel is in the immediate cross-hairs of Iran’s nuclear ambitions and they will make a decision as to when the time is right (if ever) to take action. I’m sure they are better informed then I.
Jeff wrote: I’m sorry but bombing Iran at this point in time is just not a smart idea. I will defer to intelligence sources though and if they think that Iran is about to launch a nuke then go for it.
What intelligence sources are saying that??? Waiting for them to launch?? .. WTF?? What about bombs that are loaded onto trucks, onto ships, onto planes, or onto newer/faster yet-to-be-bought missile delivery systems. What about bombs that aren’t loaded, but instead sold, given, donated to other other organiziations. What about all of the nuclear waste that will be produced that will cheap and ripe material for dirty bombs (smuggled into Lebanon and Gaza and Syria).
Quick question for you. How is Israel supposed to respond to Al Qaeda or Hezbollah or Fattah or simply angry mooslim man number 4323884 once one of these set off a nuclear device in Isreal?
Seriously, letting Iran go nuclear is just a fucking stupid thing to do.
Israel needs to bomb the nuke facilities, key military and communication sites.
Oh and if you are worried about pissing on the pro-western youth.. bomb the Basiji compounds and all will be forgiven.
Dammed if we do bomb, dammed if we don’t.
Israel is still heavily dependent on the US for fuel, bombs and spare parts and money.
All things must come to pass, for GOD’s purpose to be fulfilled.
The way I look at it is, everything is going to hell and I am along for the ride.