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Dems Getting Scared: “I’ve Never Seen Anything Like This”



Aug 23, 2009 21 Comments ›› Pat Dollard

Obama Health Care Protest

“I go to church. I hear it at church. They’re just afraid. They don’t trust this administration,”

Politico:

MARIANNA, Fla. — Rep Allen Boyd (D-Fla.) is a skilled politician who has pretty much seen it all — a Deep South Democrat who’s managed to dispatch all opponents in his conservative-leaning Panhandle district since winning election in 1996.

But as he fended off gnats buzzing through the August humidity after a morning fending off angry constituents at a town hall meeting here, Boyd confided that the depth of the unease spurred by the health care debate had caught him by surprise.

“They may be in a minority, but they are a larger minority than we’ve seen in the 20-plus years that I’ve been doing this,” said Boyd of the standing-room-only crowds who have been showing up to shout, boo, mutter and, in one case, hand him an actual stack of pink slips since he returned home for recess. “I’ve never seen anything like this.”

The overhyped and in many cases fraudulent sense of grass-roots fervor during an August Democrats would like to forget is easy to minimize. But for all the cries of Astroturf fakery and ginned-up crowds, a ground zero view in a district like Boyd’s underlines that a very real sense of anger and frustration is bubbling over as summer wanes.

A visit to Florida’s 2nd District also is a bracing case study in the mounting political peril some Blue Dogs like Boyd may be facing. Boyd acknowledged that after coasting to victory in a string of elections, including when a popular President George W. Bush was on top of the ticket in 2004 and national Republicans actively plotted his ouster, he may face a real threat next year at the polls.

And his candor is borne out of his own up-close view from the past three weeks. While some of his colleagues took refuge in constituent-free codels and undisclosed private meetings, Boyd plunged headlong into a series of public forums throughout his district and discovered the sort of public unrest that doesn’t come around very often.

“People are scared,” Boyd said twice, trying to explain what would drive his constituents away from home and work and out into the broiling Florida sun in the middle of the week to see their congressman.

It’s health care that has spurred the now-familiar images of conservatives protesting and interrupting town hall meetings during this summer of discontent. But two days of witnessing town hall meetings in north Florida small towns also made clear that the issue is only the spark behind a host of resentments and anxieties.

The disquiet among conservatives and some independents began with the collapse of the economy and subsequent bailouts last fall. It increased with the election of President Barack Obama and then spiked after he took office. The shorthand, heard here repeatedly and always in disgust, usually includes references to: stimulus, more bailouts, bonuses, cap and trade and now health care.

John Webb, a retiree from the small village of Woods, said after a Boyd town hall meeting in the county seat town of Bristol that he thought the country is headed in the wrong direction — and he wasn’t alone.

“I go to church. I hear it at church. They’re just afraid. They don’t trust this administration,” Webb said.

Exactly why is tougher to pin down, but it often returns to the same litany, a mix of conservative and populist frustrations. Webb cited the stimulus before wondering in his next breath: “I don’t understand how a company can fail and then the head of that company gets a $3 or $4 million bonus.”

Observed Randy Mackey, a former Democratic state legislator from nearby Lake City who came to Boyd’s Bristol meeting: “They think, ‘I didn’t get a stimulus package, nobody bailed me out.’ ”

While Boyd’s district includes the student and state worker-filled city of Tallahassee — a Democratic enclave — much of it is rural and deeply conservative, indistinguishable from nearby south Georgia and Alabama. This is the Florida where pine trees meet palms, the convenience stores sell live bait and sweet tea is always an option.

Add in Republican-leaning retirees and locals in Gulf towns such as Panama City, and it makes for tough terrain for a Democrat who is more moderate than his national party.

Boyd has made his standing more difficult by voting for the stimulus and the energy bill — or as one local derided the latter at the town hall in Marianna: “tap-and-crap.”

Now he’s faced with what may be one of the most consequential votes of his congressional career. On the left, Boyd faces a primary challenge from an African-American state senator from Tallahassee who is already calling health care a top issue.

And on the right he’s staring at the likes of Francis Kellison of Marianna, a Republican who said he had previously supported Boyd.

But Kellison — who thinks Obama is a “radical” — said now he may vote against the incumbent.

“I don’t like health care, I don’t like cap and trade, I didn’t approve of the bailout bills,” he explained after the meeting in his hometown.

Boyd, a farmer and former state senator, is the picture of the charming Southern pol, quick to place his hand on a shoulder and faster still to repeat the first name of the person he’s talking to.

He has used these skills to keep his town hall meetings, though spirited, free of the sort of vitriolic rancor that has taken place elsewhere.

“People in north Florida are polite and courteous,” he said by way of reminder at the start of the Marianna meeting. “We’re going to show the rest of the country a little bit about Southern hospitality and Southern manners.”

Just in case playing on regional sensibilities didn’t work, Boyd also took the precautionary step of having his questioners walk to the front of the room, introduce themselves and then stand next to him both for their questions and his answers all while he held the microphone like a genial game show host.

“One of the things I’ve learned in life is if I get up close to you and know you better, I’m less likely to yell at you,” he shared afterward about his strategy.

And in a district with a significant population of seniors, retired military and state workers, Boyd also slyly reminded many of his constituents that they were already dependent on the dreaded state for their health care coverage. He did this by asking every questioner what their health care plan was until one man in Marianna wised up to the technique and pre-emptively said it wasn’t any of the congressman’s business.

So Boyd prevented any YouTube moments, but the civility was often strained. He frequently had to hold his finger to his lip to hush the crowds as scowling sheriff’s deputies and police officers looked on.

At events in Bristol and Marianna, the crowds were overwhelmingly composed of those opposed to health care reform and wary of government in general. And in a district that is more than 20 percent African-American, the audiences were also overwhelmingly white.

Veteran politician that he is, Boyd had answers at the ready for all the familiar questions.

No, he said when it was brought up four separate times in Bristol, illegal immigrants won’t get government health care in the new legislation.

On the stimulus, he noted the infusion of local dollars to bolster school budgets and pay for infrastructure ($24 million alone for Marianna’s Jackson County).

As for the energy bill, he recalled last summer’s soaring gas prices to make the point that something has to be done before segueing into the benefits the legislation would have for rural electric co-ops (Boyd’s own father, he made sure to point out, offered up a right of way on their family farm to help electrify their county).

These answers didn’t allay the restive crowds, nor did his response on health care. Boyd repeatedly cited four principles on health care — choice, reduce overall costs, offer access to the uninsured and deficit neutrality — but wouldn’t go much further.

But he did reflect the increasing unease of moderate Democrats with the issue, in Marianna holding up hefty H.R. 3200 — the primary bill in the House — and proclaiming to applause that he would not support it as is.

He also told crowds that the public option was probably unlikely, that he would prefer the process to slow down and was open to a more incremental approach.

And in an effort at reassurance in Marianna, he urged the audience to pay attention to the Senate Finance Committee, the only relevant committee in either chamber that has yet to move a bill and the one that is most inclined toward a centrist approach.

“Wherever we end up will be more like what they’re doing, anyway,” Boyd said.

While eyebrow-raising to a visitor from Washington, such comments mattered little to a crowd that included the likes of Jim Peacock, a retired Secret Service agent from Grand Ridge.

“We don’t want the government in our health care, period,” Peacock said, before allowing that he was OK with Medicare and Medicaid only to take care of the elderly.

There were proponents of reform, including Louis Hatos, a retired technology worker for the state whose monthly premiums have soared to $1,127 a month — over half the amount of his pension.

“I want to know what in the world they’re going to do about reining in the cost of health insurance,” Hatos complained on his way out of the Bristol meeting, where his raised hand never got Boyd’s attention.

With a mix of frustration and resignation, Hatos shook his head when asked about fellow citizens who were more interested in illegal immigrants getting access than their own struggles with coverage.

“Ignorance,” was his explanation. “They’re on Medicare, they’re at the VA.”

But the voices of Hatos were, often literally, drowned out by opponents, some of whom who came to vent.

“They want to take over our life,” insisted Elaine Thompson just minutes before she shoved a stack of signed pink slips and a copy of the Constitution in Boyd’s hands.

Wearing a shirt that read “Concerned American Patriots” on the front and “Wake Up America” on the back, Thompson, of Marianna, said the White House was being run using “Chicago terrorism.”

“Saul Salinsky is their mentor,” she replied when asked to explain what she meant, misstating the name of leftist community organizer Saul Alinsky, who is often cited by talk radio host Rush Limbaugh. “They are controlling what’s happening in this country.”

After his summer recess, Allen Boyd may disagree.


  • Cridhe Saorsa

    When you lose the trust of most of the people, you lose everything.

  • Political.fish

    Its not about health care, its not about amnesty, its not about taxes, its not about putting republicans back in office, its not about any of the things the libtard media claims. But again, its about all those things: Socialism/Collectivism. He’s right to be scared. We’re comming for him and all his asshole collaborators. We are going to take our country back. We are going to restore the constitutional republic.

  • martdod

    “They may be in a minority, but they are a larger minority than we’ve seen in the 20-plus years that I’ve been doing this,”

    Unless I missed the point of this statement, I beg to differ. I don’t think it is the minority opposed to this health care sham and all the other B.S. they are trying to shove up our collective asses.

  • Political.fish

    I predict here that as the mid-terms approach more libtard, leftist congressfucks will depart from president Chim-Chim’s policies and positions. They will ,in-fact, attempt to shift squarly with the right in hopes of retaining their seats. It is up to us to hold them all accountable for their treason and eject them from office. We must only elect those who by words and DEEDS confirm the restoration of the republic.

  • dadeo

    Minority??? More proof of just how far out of touch with reality these fuckers are.

  • dadeo

    LMAO at “president Chim-Chim” :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I agree, but I also believe that voting them out of office should be the least form of punishment they should hope for.

  • March

    These idiots are making a huge mistake in trying to marginalize the opposition.

    Huge.

  • MarineDoc

    Boyd would know if he ever read his emails. I have been slamming him for 2 months now via e-mail as my home of record is in that district. As far as I am concerned if they don’t get it now, I could care less if they get it as the elections approach. If they turn it is just more proof to my already made decision to oust these fakes. No integrity and definetly not in the position for the right reasons. Boyd is a fake as are most members in Congress these days. Self serving turncoats.

  • Kim

    “…vitriolic rancor that has taken place elsewhere…”

    Vitriolic rancor? They haven’t seen anything yet!

  • http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profile/TwanaBlevins Infidel – Twana

    Are you going to the March on DC Sept. 12th?

  • http://patriotsforamerica.ning.com/profile/TwanaBlevins Infidel – Twana

    These are people who believe everything is relative. They believe if they don’t want to believe it’s the minority, then it won’t be. Their fools.

  • copperpeony

    As long as we keep ACORN under control. Those lying bastards will do everything possible to skew the ballots. Write in your vote..that very important.

  • punisher55

    The libtards will do what ever it takes to controll this country and the libtard media will give them cover.

  • GRIZZ

    You know hes lying,democrats dont go to church

  • Mike Mose

    The gallows will be built across from the senate and the trials will be conducted in front of the White house.

    Truckers, Carpenters, hunters, sportsmen, iron workers, and all people put out of work by the US gov’t will meet and take whatever measures that are needed in DC.

    They want a crisis so they can call Marshall law, wait until they see what 50 million mad blood thrusty patriots call a crisis.

  • MinneSoCold

    Just us Bible and gun clingers coming around to bite Barry & libtards in the ass.

  • Ernest T. Bass

    Amen :beer:

  • falconfixer

    Sure they do, ever hear of Jeremiah Wright?

  • Sully

    Barry was doing some ‘Bible clinging’ of His own last week, asking for help from religous leaders. ;-)

  • NikkiThompson

    chim-chim LOL!!!! :lol:

    it certainly is high time to take our country back and give the Republic back to the people and for the people.

  • unkaglen

    :beer: :beer: :beer: